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RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MurdnunoC - 17 May 2015
(16 May 2015, 9:45 pm)aureolin Jim Murphy takes a parting shot at McCluskey.
http://news.sky.com/story/1485277/resigning-murphy-declares-war-on-union-boss
Just to follow on from this - McCluskey's retort to Jim Murphy.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-32771657
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/17/labour-ties-with-unions-at-risk-warns-len-mccluskey
...and so all voices are heard.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11611042/Len-McCluskey-threatens-split-from-Labour.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3085172/Len-McCluskey-insists-not-bogeyman.html
...One more thing.
Whenever I hear the name 'McCluskey', I immediately think of Grange Hill. Does anyone else?
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 17 May 2015
(17 May 2015, 8:53 pm)MurdnunoC Just to follow on from this - McCluskey's retort to Jim Murphy.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-32771657
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/17/labour-ties-with-unions-at-risk-warns-len-mccluskey
...and so all voices are heard.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11611042/Len-McCluskey-threatens-split-from-Labour.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3085172/Len-McCluskey-insists-not-bogeyman.html
...One more thing.
Whenever I hear the name 'McCluskey', I immediately think of Grange Hill. Does anyone else?
I don't, but there again I never watched Grange Hill.
...and so Len's response points to the rules conference, and possible de-affiliation. It'll be interesting to see whether the Executive Council are in favour of the move, or just more feet stomping from McCluskey. I know the issue would have been spoken about at length, if some parties got their own way when a Unite and PCS merger was on the cards. I feel that the latter would rather walk over burning coals than have any sort of connection to the Labour Party.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 17 May 2015
(17 May 2015, 8:53 pm)MurdnunoC Just to follow on from this - McCluskey's retort to Jim Murphy.I was gutted when it wasn't the Bronson that appeared in the death wish films, but some American fella instead.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-32771657
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/17/labour-ties-with-unions-at-risk-warns-len-mccluskey
...and so all voices are heard.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11611042/Len-McCluskey-threatens-split-from-Labour.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3085172/Len-McCluskey-insists-not-bogeyman.html
...One more thing.
Whenever I hear the name 'McCluskey', I immediately think of Grange Hill. Does anyone else?
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MurdnunoC - 17 May 2015
Out of interest, which unions are affiliated with Labour. I always thought (or assumed) that PCS would have been an affiliate. There's always talk circulating within the internal communications of the Greens that they'd love to court union support if given the opportunity. There's also the TUSC option available so I imagine it'll be pretty easy for Unite to hitch their trailer to another waggon if push came to shove.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MurdnunoC - 17 May 2015
(17 May 2015, 9:05 pm)Andreos1 I was gutted when it wasn't the Bronson that appeared in the death wish films, but some American fella instead.
I always used to get my Bronsons mixed up as a child. I thought the Death Wish Bronson was English and had managed to get himself locked up for something although, subconsciously, I knew there was something wrong as the timelines didn't tally.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 17 May 2015
(17 May 2015, 9:14 pm)MurdnunoC I always used to get my Bronsons mixed up as a child. I thought the Death Wish Bronson was English and had managed to get himself locked up for something although, subconsciously, I knew there was something wrong as the timelines didn't tally.
Too many Bronsons.
Mr Bronson
Charles Bronson the actor
Charles Bronson the psychopath
All nasty buggers.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 17 May 2015
(17 May 2015, 9:11 pm)MurdnunoC Out of interest, which unions are affiliated with Labour. I always thought (or assumed) that PCS would have been an affiliate. There's always talk circulating within the internal communications of the Greens that they'd love to court union support if given the opportunity. There's also the TUSC option available so I imagine it'll be pretty easy for Unite to hitch their trailer to another waggon if push came to shove.
The main ones are Unison, Unite, GMB and the CWU. There's also the likes of BECTU, USDAW and the NUM. The PCS has been politically neutral for as I can remember.
TUSC is heavily supported by the RMT and I'm sure Bob Crow had something to do with it's creation.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MurdnunoC - 17 May 2015
(17 May 2015, 9:18 pm)Andreos1 Too many Bronsons.
Mr Bronson
Charles Bronson the actor
Charles Bronson the murderer
All nasty buggers.
Yeah, Mr Bronson looks like a nasty piece of work doesn't he?
![[Image: F_200509_september0_163030a.jpg]](http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/00163/F_200509_september0_163030a.jpg)
Looks like the sort of fella who'd cane you just for the hell of it.
A true disciplinarian whose authoritative gaze makes Hitler look like Owen Jones.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MurdnunoC - 17 May 2015
(17 May 2015, 9:19 pm)aureolin The main ones are Unison, Unite, GMB and the CWU. There's also the likes of BECTU, USDAW and the NUM. The PCS has been politically neutral for as I can remember.
TUSC is heavily supported by the RMT and I'm sure Bob Crow had something to do with it's creation.
According to the Wikipedia page of the TUSC, leading members of the PCS are on the steering committee alongside the RMT, NUT, the Fire Brigades Union and the Prison Officers Union. Not that neutral as it turns out.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 17 May 2015
(17 May 2015, 9:24 pm)MurdnunoC Yeah, Mr Bronson looks like a nasty piece of work doesn't he?
Looks like the sort of fella who'd cane you just for the hell of it.
A true disciplinarian whose authoritative gaze makes Hitler look like Owen Jones.
After seeing him on Grange Hill, I was convinced that's what the teachers at 'the big' school (comp) would be like.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MurdnunoC - 17 May 2015
(17 May 2015, 9:40 pm)Andreos1 After seeing him on Grange Hill, I was convinced that's what the teachers at 'the big' school (comp) would be like.
Our headmaster at the Catholic Comprehensive School I attended (shouldn't be hard to guess which one) was perhaps worse than Bronson. His reputation was legendary to the extent that he was well known in other schools.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 17 May 2015
(17 May 2015, 9:38 pm)MurdnunoC According to the Wikipedia page of the TUSC, PCS are on the steering committee alongside the RMT, NUT, the Fire Brigades Union and the Prison Officers Union. Not that neutral as it turns out.They've also got a cross party parliamentary group formed at Westminster, which is chaired by John McDonnell. They're politically neutral in the sense that they don't back, stand or affiliate to political parties.
Branches, groups and the national executive all have the ability to back candidates based on existing union policies, but I don't think it was used at all for 2015? There certainly wasn't a mandate to support the TUSC either.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MurdnunoC - 17 May 2015
I wonder if John McDonnell will throw his hat into the ring for Labour's leadership election. He would have been my preferred choice last time around - shame nobody backed him.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 18 May 2015
(17 May 2015, 9:49 pm)MurdnunoC I wonder if John McDonnell will throw his hat into the ring for Labour's leadership election. He would have been my preferred choice last time around - shame nobody backed him.
Denis Skinner every time for me.
Just to see the look of agitation on Camerons face at PMQ's.
The party wouldn't get very far and papers like the Daily Fail would demonise him, but it may put the cat amongst the pigeons and stir something in the longer term.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 18 May 2015
(18 May 2015, 7:48 am)Andreos1 Denis Skinner every time for me.
Just to see the look of agitation on Camerons face at PMQ's.
The party wouldn't get very far and papers like the Daily Fail would demonise him, but it may put the cat amongst the pigeons and stir something in the longer term.
I love it when he trolls Blackrod at the State Opening of Parliament
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MurdnunoC - 18 May 2015
I heard Harriet Harman on the radio at lunchtime discussing electoral reform within the Labour Party. Apparently you can now register as a Labour supporter for £3 without actually becoming a fully signed-up member. She wants to give both members and supporters a voice in electing a new leader within the party which, in principle, is a good idea. However, in my view, if you want give grassroots Labour supporters (or members) a voice, Labour need to get rid of the rule which requires leadership candidates to obtain a certain amount of nominations within the parliamentary party before they can stand. If they got rid of this rule then perhaps MP's like Dennis Skinner, John McDonnell or Jeremy Corbyn might stand in the leadership election if the vote goes to the people - Labour's core support - not just those who politick within the parliamentary party.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 29 May 2015
http://www.london24.com/news/quirky-london/plans_for_an_anti_margaret_thatcher_museum_in_london_1_4091778
Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 02 Jun 2015
Former Lib Dem Leader dies aged 55
R.I.P
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 05 Jun 2015
Is anybody following Jeremy Corbyn's bid for the Labour leadership? He's managed 10 backings in 24 hours, so I really hope he hits that 35 mark, and people have the chance to vote for him. He'd be a great leader, and it would bring the party back to it's real roots imo.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 08 Jun 2015
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33024951
Politics and religion - what a mix!
Interesting though!