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RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Michael - 10 Apr 2016
(10 Apr 2016, 3:40 pm)MurdnunoC Irrespective of start-date, the current system still applies. What the article sets out are the proposals to chase loanees who choose to avoid paying their loans either by moving abroad; or by somehow disappearing from records held by HMRC.
That's good, the job i want to do, (deputy manager of a nursery) will hopefully get me around 18k a year...don't mind a job in a nursery though, as a nursery nurse/teaching assistant, better than nothing.
Worked in private nurseries before.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 11 Apr 2016
On the day Dennis Skinner had a go at Cameron and refused to withdraw the word 'dodgy', I had this put through the door.
Haven't looked to see who is behind it, but I can think of a fair few facts missing from the publication.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Michael - 11 Apr 2016
What a waste of tax payers money... rather it was spent on people with disabilities or for the families who's struggling!
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 11 Apr 2016
(11 Apr 2016, 5:38 pm)Michael What a waste of tax payers money... rather it was spent on people with disabilities or for the families who's struggling!To be honest, I think it's wrong that the civil service is being used to promote a vote. I'm decided on an in vote now, but I think it should be up to political parties to do the campaigning.
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RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - northern156 - 11 Apr 2016
I think tax payers' money should've been used for a completely neutral leaflet, compiled by an independent organisation (not sure what, mind) that gives facts for both sides of the argument.
This s**t should not be allowed as it's completely biased and thus the only thing some people may see who do not use the internet or watch much TV.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - BusLoverMum - 11 Apr 2016
(11 Apr 2016, 6:17 pm)Adrian To be honest, I think it's wrong that the civil service is being used to promote a vote. I'm decided on an in vote now, but I think it should be up to political parties to do the campaigning.
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(11 Apr 2016, 9:17 pm)northern156 I think tax payers' money should've been used for a completely neutral leaflet, compiled by an independent organisation (not sure what, mind) that gives facts for both sides of the argument.
This s**t should not be allowed as it's completely biased and thus the only thing some people may see who do not use the internet or watch much TV.
I had just this discussion with Husband, earlier. We're both on the same page about it. If public money is to be spent on what is meant to be a non-party political vote of personal conscience and opinion, then people need to be presented with neutral, non-hysterical arguments for both options. Yes, it will mean that the same facts and figures end up being interpreted to mean different things but it's a complex issue which requires some serious consideration, yet, instead, is being presented in a cloud of selective hyperbole and obfuscation, depending on the view being pushed.
Edit: anyone who even mentions bananas loses my confidence in their opinion.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - northern156 - 12 Apr 2016
(11 Apr 2016, 10:21 pm)BusLoverMum I had just this discussion with Husband, earlier. We're both on the same page about it. If public money is to be spent on what is meant to be a non-party political vote of personal conscience and opinion, then people need to be presented with neutral, non-hysterical arguments for both options. Yes, it will mean that the same facts and figures end up being interpreted to mean different things but it's a complex issue which requires some serious consideration, yet, instead, is being presented in a cloud of selective hyperbole and obfuscation, depending on the view being pushed.
Edit: anyone who even mentions bananas loses my confidence in their opinion.
All of this is not helped by the media, also. Their views (BBC seem to be very pro-Tory) are pushed out for all to believe...
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 12 Apr 2016
(11 Apr 2016, 6:17 pm)Adrian To be honest, I think it's wrong that the civil service is being used to promote a vote. I'm decided on an in vote now, but I think it should be up to political parties to do the campaigning.
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Whilst I agree on the Civil Service not being used - I don't think the parties (as we know them) can be used, if only because there would be a huge split in each of them.
I do think the non-party line that is being used (some campaugn groups including MP's from both sides of the fence) is the way forward.
Hopeully this leads to a decision in June, that isn't based on those traditionally favoured by a political party.
I am out.
Not because I am tory or ukip (the traditional anti-EU parties), but because of my socialist principles - of which many don't tie in with the current EU position.
These include TTIP, austerity, privisation legislation, the whole Greece debacle, anti-trade union laws, the common fisheries policy etc. The list goes on.
However, a number of tories and ukippers want to be out for totally different reasons.
By aligning myself with more public faces (or certainly ones that are in the mainstream), if only because I want the same outcome, I am potentially putting a divide between myself and others socialists who want to stay in.
However, it could be argued that those socialists who want to stop in, are marginalising themselves from groups (and unions), who want to be out.
If Labour as an example said that they have a party line. Imagine the infighting? Imagine those unions who want to stay in and their public spats with those who want to be out?
The decision (in my opinion), must be made away from the traditional 'tow the party line', for those reasons.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Michael - 15 Apr 2016
Not here but:
Czech Republic's Leaders Agree On New Name
http://news.sky.com/story/1679404/czech-republics-leaders-agree-on-new-name
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 04 May 2016
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ttip-leaks-shocking-what-are-they-eu-us-deal-a7010121.html
Just another reason why I am wanting out of the EU.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - NK53 TKT - 04 May 2016
(04 May 2016, 8:44 am)Andreos1 http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ttip-leaks-shocking-what-are-they-eu-us-deal-a7010121.html
Just another reason why I am wanting out of the EU.
From my point of view only being 11 years old I feel that we should leave the EU as that is how I have been brought up. My family supports the Conservatives and in my opinion (many people will disagree) I think UKIP makes most sense
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Michael - 05 May 2016
Did not we had local elections today.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Chris - 05 May 2016
(05 May 2016, 6:27 am)Michael Did not we had local elections today.
Yep, local elections and police & crime commissioner elections today. We're postal, so much easier.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Michael - 05 May 2016
(05 May 2016, 11:13 am)Chris Yep, local elections and police & crime commissioner elections today. We're postal, so much easier.
Cheers, wish i knew earlier!
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 06 May 2016
(05 May 2016, 12:23 pm)Michael Cheers, wish i knew earlier!
Did you not get voting paperwork through the door?
Not much change with the councillors (although a Lib Dem has been elected in Sunderland apparently) and PCC's are as they were.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Michael - 06 May 2016
(06 May 2016, 3:27 pm)Andreos1 Did you not get voting paperwork through the door?
Not much change with the councillors (although a Lib Dem has been elected in Sunderland apparently) and PCC's are as they were.
Don't think so which is a surprise as i thought i would of!.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Michael - 06 May 2016
Plans to force all of England's schools to become academies are being abandoned in a government climbdown.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-36227570
Really happy its getting stopped.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - NK53 TKT - 06 May 2016
(06 May 2016, 4:05 pm)Michael Plans to force all of England's schools to become academies are being abandoned in a government climbdown.Both my parents work in education as head either head teachers or head of a number of schools
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-36227570
Really happy its getting stopped.
They are thrilled
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Michael - 06 May 2016
(06 May 2016, 4:08 pm)NK53 TKT Both my parents work in education as head either head teachers or head of a number of schools
They are thrilled
I bet they are, i know a few people who work in education and they are thrilled with this U-turn.
It was a disgrace anyway, to me it should of never of been proposed, Nicky Morgan should resign.
Is this how you can afford all these holidays?
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 06 May 2016
Saw this earlier. Very pleased.
It is yet another tory u-turn. They're almost going in circles now!
One additional thing that I am pleased about is the end of the free land grab.
Each of these academies would have been given potentially hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of local authority land, given to them for nothing.
Of course what would have stopped them selling off portions in the future?Over the