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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Aaron21 - 11 Oct 2023
(11 Oct 2023, 12:43 pm)Jimmi X16 is taking the same route as X14/X15/X18 between Newcastle & Morpeth as before.
Do the X14/15/18 go via Morpeth rail station
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Jimmi - 11 Oct 2023
(11 Oct 2023, 12:45 pm)Aaron21 Do the X14/15/18 go via Morpeth rail station
Not as such, serves the stops by Mafeking Roundabout. Only bus to stop outside the station itself is service 436, services 2 & 43 stop on Shields Road.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Thomas12 - 14 Oct 2023
Confirmation of changes in Tyne and Wear/Northumberland - https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/service-update%E2%80%93northumberland-and-tyne-&-wear
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 14 Oct 2023
(14 Oct 2023, 11:05 am)Thomas12 Confirmation of changes in Tyne and Wear/Northumberland - https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/service-update%E2%80%93northumberland-and-tyne-&-wear
Does anyone know who and what are running these? Blyth doesn't have any driver's as it is to be running more buses and Ashington is extremely sparse on buses to be running more work. There's not enough minibuses as it is to be running an extra board for example.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - mb134 - 14 Oct 2023
(14 Oct 2023, 9:16 pm)Storx Does anyone know who and what are running these? Blyth doesn't have any driver's as it is to be running more buses and Ashington is extremely sparse on buses to be running more work. There's not enough minibuses as it is to be running an extra board for example.
Ashington will be running the X16, extra X14s, 57A, and some of the new evening/weekend 43s I believe.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - RobinHood - 14 Oct 2023
(14 Oct 2023, 9:16 pm)Storx Does anyone know who and what are running these? Blyth doesn't have any driver's as it is to be running more buses and Ashington is extremely sparse on buses to be running more work. There's not enough minibuses as it is to be running an extra board for example.
The X16 is two additional vehicles and will operate from Ashington. I understand there will be a fleet movement of two Pulsars from Redcar to Durham, which in turn will allow 1512 and 1513 I believe to transfer back north. Redcar have a PVR decrease from 29th October (minus 2) and then again on the 6th November (minus 6).
As for the 57/57A, 2852 has been officially in reserve waiting for this PVR increase already. It will simply slot into their allocation (even though they have been using it, it hasn't officially been on their allocation). Its an intentional position to only give Ashington the exact number of Midibuses for the required allocation. I believe plans already underway to convert the 57/57A to conventional operation in the new year.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - mb134 - 14 Oct 2023
(14 Oct 2023, 9:24 pm)RobinHood The X16 is two additional vehicles and will operate from Ashington. I understand there will be a fleet movement of two Pulsars from Redcar to Durham, which in turn will allow 1512 and 1513 I believe to transfer back north. Redcar have a PVR decrease from 29th October (minus 2) and then again on the 6th November (minus 6).
As for the 57/57A, 2852 has been officially in reserve waiting for this PVR increase already. It will simply slot into their allocation (even though they have been using it, it hasn't officially been on their allocation). Its an intentional position to only give Ashington the exact number of Midibuses for the required allocation. I believe plans already underway to convert the 57/57A to conventional operation in the new year.
Good for the route that they're getting 1512/13 which are more comparable to the other vehicles on the corridor.
BIB: If what I've heard is correct, this will start to come into effect in an upcoming rota change.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - EastCoastMXZ1751 - 14 Oct 2023
(14 Oct 2023, 11:05 am)Thomas12 Confirmation of changes in Tyne and Wear/Northumberland - https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/service-update%E2%80%93northumberland-and-tyne-&-wear
From these changes it has the 1 on an evening as leaving Ashington at 19.44, 20.44 then at xx.49 yet all runs arrive at xx.48, will they be interworking off something?
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Aaron21 - 14 Oct 2023
(14 Oct 2023, 9:24 pm)RobinHood The X16 is two additional vehicles and will operate from Ashington. I understand there will be a fleet movement of two Pulsars from Redcar to Durham, which in turn will allow 1512 and 1513 I believe to transfer back north. Redcar have a PVR decrease from 29th October (minus 2) and then again on the 6th November (minus 6).
As for the 57/57A, 2852 has been officially in reserve waiting for this PVR increase already. It will simply slot into their allocation (even though they have been using it, it hasn't officially been on their allocation). Its an intentional position to only give Ashington the exact number of Midibuses for the required allocation. I believe plans already underway to convert the 57/57A to conventional operation in the new year.
WHAT. We're getting 1512/1513 back. Hopefully yay
Hope something is done with the 57/57A. How there still mini buses is astonishing to me. The route gets busy to allocat a full bus to it. And I can see that being the case in these changes
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Ryland - 14 Oct 2023
Hopefully maybe Then it's 1433 and 39 which are in Newcastle region at the moment.
In terms of the 6 well that could be 3 ex London deckers and either the solos or some temsa. Maybe even 1534
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - peter - 14 Oct 2023
(14 Oct 2023, 9:24 pm)RobinHood The X16 is two additional vehicles and will operate from Ashington. I understand there will be a fleet movement of two Pulsars from Redcar to Durham, which in turn will allow 1512 and 1513 I believe to transfer back north. Redcar have a PVR decrease from 29th October (minus 2) and then again on the 6th November (minus 6).
As for the 57/57A, 2852 has been officially in reserve waiting for this PVR increase already. It will simply slot into their allocation (even though they have been using it, it hasn't officially been on their allocation). Its an intentional position to only give Ashington the exact number of Midibuses for the required allocation. I believe plans already underway to convert the 57/57A to conventional operation in the new year.
What's the 29th October PVR decrease at Redcar related to? And is the November one not 5 - 3 on the X93 and 2 on the P1/P2?
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 14 Oct 2023
(14 Oct 2023, 9:23 pm)mb134 Ashington will be running the X16, extra X14s, 57A, and some of the new evening/weekend 43s I believe.
(14 Oct 2023, 9:24 pm)RobinHood The X16 is two additional vehicles and will operate from Ashington. I understand there will be a fleet movement of two Pulsars from Redcar to Durham, which in turn will allow 1512 and 1513 I believe to transfer back north. Redcar have a PVR decrease from 29th October (minus 2) and then again on the 6th November (minus 6).
As for the 57/57A, 2852 has been officially in reserve waiting for this PVR increase already. It will simply slot into their allocation (even though they have been using it, it hasn't officially been on their allocation). Its an intentional position to only give Ashington the exact number of Midibuses for the required allocation. I believe plans already underway to convert the 57/57A to conventional operation in the new year.
Thanks for that, all makes sense. Had a feel Ashington might have been doing the 43 extra boards since Blyth is seriously struggling again, been a bit of a mess the past 2 days.
Interesting to see they're finally planning to get shot of the Solo's. Assuming there's going to be cuts somewhere or alternatively some buses coming in from somewhere?
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - RobinHood - 15 Oct 2023
(14 Oct 2023, 10:35 pm)peter What's the 29th October PVR decrease at Redcar related to? And is the November one not 5 - 3 on the X93 and 2 on the P1/P2?
The 29th decrease is related to some peak time only work that is currently being operated for Mbro College. That will be merged into the normal boards and releases two vehicles.
November is actually 6, yes. It's 2 from P&R and 4 from X93/94 (as Whitby also have an extra board that only does a morning round trip between Whitby and Scarborough, often this one is overlooked).
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - peter - 15 Oct 2023
(15 Oct 2023, 6:10 am)RobinHood The 29th decrease is related to some peak time only work that is currently being operated for Mbro College. That will be merged into the normal boards and releases two vehicles.
November is actually 6, yes. It's 2 from P&R and 4 from X93/94 (as Whitby also have an extra board that only does a morning round trip between Whitby and Scarborough, often this one is overlooked).
Ah okay thanks for confirming, forget about the early Whitby board.
So if two pulsars are going from Redcar to Durham displacing 1512/1513 for the X16, what's the plan with 1538/39 now, are they still going back to Ashington? If those return with 7575 and 7576 plus a couple more Pulsars freed up by 7425/26's release off the X93 and 7609/10's off the P1/P2 for the winter, there'd probably be enough to convert the 57/57A to full size vehicles (at least in the short term until next summer)
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - megansmith - 15 Oct 2023
(14 Oct 2023, 9:24 pm)RobinHood The X16 is two additional vehicles and will operate from Ashington. I understand there will be a fleet movement of two Pulsars from Redcar to Durham, which in turn will allow 1512 and 1513 I believe to transfer back north. Redcar have a PVR decrease from 29th October (minus 2) and then again on the 6th November (minus 6).
As for the 57/57A, 2852 has been officially in reserve waiting for this PVR increase already. It will simply slot into their allocation (even though they have been using it, it hasn't officially been on their allocation). Its an intentional position to only give Ashington the exact number of Midibuses for the required allocation. I believe plans already underway to convert the 57/57A to conventional operation in the new year.
should leave Redcar pulsars alone it should be the streetlites or the two resver pulsars at Stockton could easily go to Durham
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 16 Oct 2023
(15 Oct 2023, 9:49 pm)megansmith should leave Redcar pulsars alone it should be the streetlites or the two resver pulsars at Stockton could easily go to Durham
What reserve Pulsars at Stockton? 1428/57 both re-entered service in September when the Middlesbrough College services resumed - although at present they are technically stand-alone boards, they do tend to allocate a MAX Pulsar to one of them which then drops onto the 8.55 X12 (as it will do after half term anyway) allowing Stockton the extra spare vehicles that other depots enjoy long-term. Let's not also forget the transfer of 1431 to Stockton to replace 1923/2858 is still outstanding (2710 is here instead for the week and 1431 will come over in exchange on Sunday).
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Spottybus - 18 Oct 2023
I’m not saying it’s going to happen but wouldn’t it be better if 1408/1411 transfers up to Newcastle for the X16 with Darlingtons loan 1538/9 then that could add up to 4 vehicles for the X16 then 1512/3 could transfer to Darlington to replace 1408/11 while 2 pulsars transfers or goes on loan to Durham to replace 1512/3, 1408/11 used to be X16 branded so wouldn’t it be better to send them up to Newcastle to allow 1512/3 to transfer to Darlington to replace 1408/11 then 2 pulsars from Redcar can move to Durham to replace 1512/3 if Redcars PVR is decreasing but like I said above I know it probably won’t happen but it’s just a random guess that’s all
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 18 Oct 2023
(18 Oct 2023, 4:28 am)Spottybus I’m not saying it’s going to happen but wouldn’t it be better if 1408/1411 transfers up to Newcastle for the X16 with Darlingtons loan 1538/9 then that could add up to 4 vehicles for the X16 then 1512/3 could transfer to Darlington to replace 1408/11 while 2 pulsars transfers or goes on loan to Durham to replace 1512/3, 1408/11 used to be X16 branded so wouldn’t it be better to send them up to Newcastle to allow 1512/3 to transfer to Darlington to replace 1408/11 then 2 pulsars from Redcar can move to Durham to replace 1512/3 if Redcars PVR is decreasing but like I said above I know it probably won’t happen but it’s just a random guess that’s all
1408/11 aren’t CAZ compliant - hence why, when 1411 was at Stockton, it wasn’t meant to be used on Newcastle X12s (it did escape onto the last full round trip once but that will have got a fine).
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Spottybus - 18 Oct 2023
Okay no worries, just thought to ask as 1408/11 used to be X16 branded that’s all
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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 18 Oct 2023
(18 Oct 2023, 4:28 am)Spottybus I’m not saying it’s going to happen but wouldn’t it be better if 1408/1411 transfers up to Newcastle for the X16 with Darlingtons loan 1538/9 then that could add up to 4 vehicles for the X16 then 1512/3 could transfer to Darlington to replace 1408/11 while 2 pulsars transfers or goes on loan to Durham to replace 1512/3, 1408/11 used to be X16 branded so wouldn’t it be better to send them up to Newcastle to allow 1512/3 to transfer to Darlington to replace 1408/11 then 2 pulsars from Redcar can move to Durham to replace 1512/3 if Redcars PVR is decreasing but like I said above I know it probably won’t happen but it’s just a random guess that’s all
Imo it would make much more sense to do
1579/1580, 1584-1589 to Ashington
1537-1541 to Darlington
1433, 1439 to Durham
1/2/57/57A/X16 - PVR 14 (1 board a decker)
1574 - 1589 - 16 Buses
2852/3/4/9 - Withdrawn / reserve
Would sort out pointless microfleets all over the place.