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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 22 Mar 2016
PB0002717/15 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Durham and Esh Winning given service number 43 effective from 15-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/30 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Durham and Bishop Auckland given service number 56/56A effective from 15-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/220 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Hartlepool and Sunderland given service number 23 effective from 15-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/256 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Durham and Hartlepool given service number 57/57A effective from 15-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/273 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and West Park given service number 19 effective from 15-May-2016. To amend Timetable.
PB0002717/281 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Birtley and Washington given service number 82/83 effective from 15-May-2016.
PB0002717/289 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stanhope and Durham given service number 46 effective from 15-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/335 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Peterlee given service number 21A effective from 15-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/382 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Durham and Sunderland given service number 22 effective from 15-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/383 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Durham and Hartlepool given service number 24/24X effective from 15-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/396 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Tow Law given service number X1 effective from 15-May-2016. To amend Timetable.
Edit:
Conformation that Arriva have lost the 82/83
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - cbma06 - 22 Mar 2016
The changes for service x21/x22 most journeys retimed by 5 minutes
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - cbma06 - 22 Mar 2016
Changes for service 22 and 24, just minor timetable amendments for the knock on effect to find a better slot for service 21a between Middlesbrough and Stockton
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 22 Mar 2016
(22 Mar 2016, 2:26 pm)cbma06 Changes for service 22 and 24, just minor timetable amendments to slot service 21a in on a spaced out frequency in peterlee
Cheers for the info cbma =)
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Jimmi - 22 Mar 2016
Hoping the new timetables will be up soon as many of the services I use are set to have their timetables changed on May 15th. Fingers crossed it won't cause many/any problems for me!
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - cbma06 - 22 Mar 2016
service X21/X22 times:
from Peterlee bus station to sunderland
0734
0839
0944
1049
then 49 minutes past until
1649
1754
arrive sunderland at 15 minutes past the hour
from Sunderland:
0810
0820
then 20 mins past until 1620 1730 1830.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 22 Mar 2016
(22 Mar 2016, 4:28 pm)cbma06 service X21/X22 times:
from Peterlee bus station to sunderland
0734
0839
0944
1049
then 49 minutes past until
1649
1754
arrive sunderland at 15 minutes past the hour
from Sunderland:
0810
0820
then 20 mins past until 1620 1730 1830.
Thanks, least none of the journeys have been lost.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Jimmi - 22 Mar 2016
(22 Mar 2016, 4:28 pm)cbma06 service X21/X22 times:I'm guessing this will mean that the 21/21A times will also get pushed back by around 5 minutes.
from Peterlee bus station to sunderland
0734
0839
0944
1049
then 49 minutes past until
1649
1754
arrive sunderland at 15 minutes past the hour
from Sunderland:
0810
0820
then 20 mins past until 1620 1730 1830.
If that is the case, it should be intresting to see if/how this will impact the times of the 5/5A, 7 and 8 as they are currently timed to run roughly every 7/8 minutes between Darlington and Newton Aycliffe.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Cock Robin - 22 Mar 2016
(22 Mar 2016, 2:26 pm)cbma06 Changes for service 22 and 24, just minor timetable amendments for the knock on effect to find a better slot for service 21a between Middlesbrough and Stockton
Why do they need a better slot between Mbro and Stockton? Would have thought that was the least important part of the route.
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - cbma06 - 22 Mar 2016
(22 Mar 2016, 5:05 pm)Cock Robin Why do they need a better slot between Mbro and Stockton? Would have thought that was the least important part of the route.
Just what I was told in an email I received today.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 22 Mar 2016
(22 Mar 2016, 5:05 pm)Cock Robin Why do they need a better slot between Mbro and Stockton? Would have thought that was the least important part of the route.
I would guess it's being retimed to fit better with the X66/X67 - at present, the 21a leaves Middlesbrough 3 minutes behind an X67 and towards Middlesbrough from Stockton 5 minutes behind the X67.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - tyresmoke - 22 Mar 2016
Trying to position everything to provide a combined 7/8 min frequency between Middlesbrough & Stockton I understand. This time we've changed the 21A by 5 minutes, which obviously means moving the 21. This has a knock on effect across the Darlington and East Durham corridors where there are also standard frequencies. Amazing how one little change affects areas as far away as Sunderland
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Cock Robin - 23 Mar 2016
(22 Mar 2016, 9:46 pm)tyresmoke Trying to position everything to provide a combined 7/8 min frequency between Middlesbrough & Stockton I understand. This time we've changed the 21A by 5 minutes, which obviously means moving the 21. This has a knock on effect across the Darlington and East Durham corridors where there are also standard frequencies. Amazing how one little change affects areas as far away as Sunderland
Seems daft changing the times up there just to improve times between M'bro and Stockton, when there's a Stagecoach every 7/8 minutes anyway and the Arrivas don't even all go the same route!
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - BusLoverMum - 23 Mar 2016
Of course, if the 22s are moved 5 minutes later, that fouls it up for people using it to get to work in Durham. It's already useless on a Saturday, as it arrives at 8am or 9am - no good for people who need to clock in at 8:50, which is commonplace.
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - cbma06 - 23 Mar 2016
(23 Mar 2016, 12:21 pm)BusLoverMum Of course, if the 22s are moved 5 minutes later, that fouls it up for people using it to get to work in Durham. It's already useless on a Saturday, as it arrives at 8am or 9am - no good for people who need to clock in at 8:50, which is commonplace.
On the new timetable the daytime service 22 is 07 and 37 from Sunderland and Durham
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - BusLoverMum - 23 Mar 2016
(23 Mar 2016, 12:46 pm)cbma06 On the new timetable the daytime service 22 is 07 and 37 from Sunderland and Durham
That hasn't changed at all, then.
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - cbma06 - 23 Mar 2016
(23 Mar 2016, 2:48 pm)BusLoverMum That hasn't changed at all, then.
Only thing real change is timing points along the route by 1 minute or so
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - BusLoverMum - 23 Mar 2016
(23 Mar 2016, 3:31 pm)cbma06 Only thing real change is timing points along the route by 1 minute or so
They can usually be taken with a pinch of salt, anyhow.
Is the 8am-ish departure from Sunderland still timed 5 minutes earlier than the buses after for Wheatley Hill/Thornley? That one has been on time once in as long as I can remember. Where the timetable says 9:07, it arrives at 9:12, just like all the later services. Arriving before then is a once a month event.
And wtf is going on with this version of the timetable? It's the same for the one I checked out, recently for the 21. A whole section of the route is reversed on the Durham bound journeys!
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/GetTimetable/?guid=66f5d2ce-1118-42d4-86a5-32440c97d647&id=66620&date=160228-160620
(23 Mar 2016, 3:31 pm)cbma06 Only thing real change is timing points along the route by 1 minute or so
They can usually be taken with a pinch of salt, anyhow.
Is the 8am-ish departure from Sunderland still timed 5 minutes earlier than the buses after for Wheatley Hill/Thornley? That one has been on time once in as long as I can remember. Where the timetable says 9:07, it arrives at 9:12, just like all the later services. Arriving before then is a once a month event.
And wtf is going on with this version of the timetable? It's the same for the one I checked out, recently for the 21. A whole section of the route is reversed on the Durham bound journeys!
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/GetTimetable/?guid=66f5d2ce-1118-42d4-86a5-32440c97d647&id=66620&date=160228-160620
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - cbma06 - 23 Mar 2016
(23 Mar 2016, 4:10 pm)BusLoverMum They can usually be taken with a pinch of salt, anyhow.
Is the 8am-ish departure from Sunderland still timed 5 minutes earlier than the buses after for Wheatley Hill/Thornley? That one has been on time once in as long as I can remember. Where the timetable says 9:07, it arrives at 9:12, just like all the later services. Arriving before then is a once a month event.
And wtf is going on with this version of the timetable? It's the same for the one I checked out, recently for the 21. A whole section of the route is reversed on the Durham bound journeys!
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/GetTimetable/?guid=66f5d2ce-1118-42d4-86a5-32440c97d647&id=66620&date=160228-160620
They can usually be taken with a pinch of salt, anyhow.
Is the 8am-ish departure from Sunderland still timed 5 minutes earlier than the buses after for Wheatley Hill/Thornley? That one has been on time once in as long as I can remember. Where the timetable says 9:07, it arrives at 9:12, just like all the later services. Arriving before then is a once a month event.
And wtf is going on with this version of the timetable? It's the same for the one I checked out, recently for the 21. A whole section of the route is reversed on the Durham bound journeys!
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/GetTimetable/?guid=66f5d2ce-1118-42d4-86a5-32440c97d647&id=66620&date=160228-160620
service 22 leaves Sunderland at 08:02, departs Thornley, gore hall estate at 09:06 and arrives durham at 09:32
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - BusLoverMum - 23 Mar 2016
(23 Mar 2016, 4:35 pm)cbma06 service 22 leaves Sunderland at 08:02, departs Thornley, gore hall estate at 09:06 and arrives durham at 09:32
Unchanged, then. It's never 9:06, though. I almost fell over in surprise the one day that it was!