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RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - BusLoverMum - 19 Dec 2015

(18 Dec 2015, 3:02 pm)Panasonic44 It would be nice to see 93/94 Loop buses to be upgraded.

Well, don't hold out for cascaded Prince Bishops Solars. They're knackered, too. Probably even more so.


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 19 Dec 2015

(19 Dec 2015, 9:27 pm)BusLoverMum Well, don't hold out for cascaded Prince Bishops Solars. They're knackered, too. Probably even more so.

Most of the Prince Bishop Scania's are the same age as the Loop scania's.


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - S813 FVK - 19 Dec 2015

I think the most important question about the Streetdecks is...

Will they have glass staircases?


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - Adrian - 19 Dec 2015

(19 Dec 2015, 10:18 pm)S813 FVK I think the most important question about the Streetdecks is...

Will they have glass staircases?
Hopefully not. Brighton didn't for theirs, and they look better for it imo.

https://flic.kr/p/tmkxJU


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 19 Dec 2015

(19 Dec 2015, 10:18 pm)S813 FVK I think the most important question about the Streetdecks is...

Will they have glass staircases?

If they do, at least Greg will be able see out of the window if they cover the rest in branding..... Wink


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - dannygee - 19 Dec 2015

The 17 and the 9 will surely need replacing though as they are running with the oldest buses in the fleet


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - Adrian - 19 Dec 2015

(19 Dec 2015, 10:37 pm)dannygee The 17 and the 9 will surely need replacing though as they are running with the oldest buses in the fleet
There'll be plenty of spare Solars. 8 of which are 54-plate.


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - Greg in Weardale - 19 Dec 2015

Ha ha. The Wright glass staircases don't have the style of those on the Borismasters or the new London Enviros. But then neither Wright Geminis or Streetdecks have quite the style of Enviros - or the performance.


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - BusLoverMum - 20 Dec 2015

(19 Dec 2015, 9:42 pm)Michael Most of the Prince Bishop Scania's are the same age as the Loop scania's.

Exactly - so there's probably nothing there for the Loop in this batch.

I can't imagine most of the current PB fleet being any use for anything other than spares.


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 20 Dec 2015

(20 Dec 2015, 12:05 am)BusLoverMum Exactly - so there's probably nothing there for the Loop in this batch.

I can't imagine most of the current PB fleet being any use for anything other than spares.

Opps, i thought u meant they could replace the Loop scania's.... sorry haha.


Ye, they'll probables go in to a spare role although i would like them to go on the 33/33A/39 in Sunderland.

The 17/17A to.


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - BusLoverMum - 20 Dec 2015

Thinking on, GNE have a hell of a lot of Solars of a certain age - Fast cats and Waggonways are in a pretty desperate state, too, though I can see why PB might be prioritised as that's a very busy service in comparison to those two. Loop probably as busy as PB, as it was very busy when I used it regularly, particularly once Safeway/Sainsbobs opened on TVTE.


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - wise owl - 20 Dec 2015

Probably been said before, but they'll no doubt see off the cadets and dual door renowns. That said, i had 5160 on the 16s today, i must say the B10 is one of the best buses i've ever had the pleasure to drive.


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - wise owl - 20 Dec 2015

(20 Dec 2015, 12:19 am)BusLoverMum Thinking on, GNE have a hell of a lot of Solars of a certain age - Fast cats and Waggonways are in a pretty desperate state, too, though I can see why PB might be prioritised as that's a very busy service in comparison to those two. Loop probably as busy as PB, as it was very busy when I used it regularly, particularly once Safeway/Sainsbobs opened on TVTE.
I think the loop has its busy periods, like most services, but i doubt its high on the gne radar for upgrade, maybe cascade mercs in a year or 2.


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - Andreos1 - 20 Dec 2015

(19 Dec 2015, 9:27 pm)BusLoverMum Well, don't hold out for cascaded Prince Bishops Solars. They're knackered, too. Probably even more so.

5213 has started stalking me again recently and has got rid of the annoying lurch it had when idling.
Seem to keep getting the 49xx batch recently, rather than the handful of newer 52xx members.

No idea whether work has been done on them prior to their impending move or of the fitters have managed to tame them - but the internal rattles and generally tattyness of the purple Solars, seem to have been lacking recently.


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 21 Dec 2015

Stupid question but will the new buses be Euro 6?

Edit:

Also when the Prince Bishops get new buses, i think they should introduce a "Prince Bishops day/weekly ticket".


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - Andreos1 - 22 Dec 2015

In a desperate attempt to come up with an alternative to the Streetlites on the 20 allocation...

Mercs from the 27, the Silver ones at Deptford and the two spares at Stanley on to the 20.
But it leaves the PVR just short.
Any ideas on what could be used to make up the balance?

The new Streetlites could then be split between Deptford, Riverside and Stanley.

The Seaham corridor would have a standard vehicle.
The 27 could have brand new vehicles.
The two spares at Stanley tie in with the existing fleet disposition.


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - R852 PRG - 22 Dec 2015

(22 Dec 2015, 8:28 pm)Andreos1 In a desperate attempt to come up with an alternative to the Streetlites on the 20 allocation...

Mercs from the 27, the Silver ones at Deptford and the two spares at Stanley on to the 20.
But it leaves the PVR just short.
Any ideas on what could be used to make up the balance?

The new Streetlites could then be split between Deptford, Riverside and Stanley.

The Seaham corridor would have a standard vehicle.
The 27 could have brand new vehicles.
The two spares at Stanley tie in with the existing fleet disposition.

Only thing I could have suggested as the most suitable aternative would be the Citaros from the ''Connections4'', but they're only just over half of the total PVR for the 20. They're only a couple of years old and still in fantastic shape, and I think they'd be much better suited to the 20/20A than Streetlites in the long term. Unfortunately they just aren't high enough in number, and then you've got the predicament of what to allocate to the 4 if you removed the Citaros from that route.


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - L469 YVK - 22 Dec 2015

I think that although the Streetlites can rattle and probably won't last as long as a heavyweight single decker but still a decent anough time for what they are (maybe 12 years), the purchase and running cost of them are a no brainer and if looked after, they should have no performance issues.

I will still say that a Red Arrows upgrade with 7x going on the Pronto, 5x going corporate and 2x going on the Angel (and GKN modified) would've been a far better option rather than just buying new Streetdecks for the Pronto. It would've allowed the X1 to become GNE's flagship double deck service second to the Angel (including power sockets which are lacking on the current B9s on there and eLeather) whilst Riverside / Percy Main would've benifited from more better quality spare vehicles (also meaning 6084 could become a more premanent fixture on the TEN due to 6049 taking over the role as the tachograph spare B9). Chester would've also benefited from 2x extra modern Geminis for the Angel and several services and parts of the network would've benefited from the freed B7 Geminis including displacing the 2x non DDA compliant Lolynes on the DFDS work.


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - Davie - 22 Dec 2015

I hope this doesn't happen, but:
6001 & 6002 - Chester Le Street allowing 3962 & 3965 to transfer to Percy Main for the 327. This will allow Go North East to withdraw 3866 & 3867. 6003, 6004 & 6005 - also to Chester Le Street, so three more Lolynes can be withdrawn. 6006 & 6007 - Riverside so two of either 3818/19/24. 6049 - Riverside and branded for the TTX meaning 6084 could be branded for the TEN services. 6050-55 - Stanley - help wiithdraw the Lolynes and Olympians. 3943 - Stanley along with 6050 - 6055.

16x E400MMC for service X1, with 2 acting as spares, and one could be allocated to service X88 on the weekends.


RE: Go North East: 2015/16 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 22 Dec 2015

Wait are we talking about next years orders already?, these ones haven't arrived yet. Lol

As no buses are on order for the "Red Arrows" this year.......