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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - Diamond One - 04 Jan 2016

(04 Jan 2016, 6:17 pm)Dan Nothing wrong with a refresh, keeping the fleet smart and tidy, is there?

If you ask me; it's about time we saw quality being treated as a primary focus, amongst bus operators in the North East.

could have it a similar style like this except black and where the thing is at the back could replace that with Gateshead Millennium Bridge the routes would have 93/94 and the places it serves like Gateshead, Heworth, Team Valley and Gateshead College, https://www.flickr.com/photos/95122727@N06/18408550744/in/photolist-u3GCMW-AwBKUh-8Pkr1s-fcqvWf-fzcr3M-s8U2LG-zD4uZ3-yPJbSo-znGXXa-dryPMb-zs6yz9-yHemqA-zBUUfj-c6nst5-brQaFg-zrZPtj-c6nsDJ-brPUNk-c6dNoU-brPUJP


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - Michael - 04 Jan 2016

(04 Jan 2016, 6:17 pm)Dan Nothing wrong with a refresh, keeping the fleet smart and tidy, is there?

If you ask me; it's about time we saw quality being treated as a primary focus, amongst bus operators in the North East.

The Sunderland Connect Solo's should be going in this year, as its coming up to 5 years for them (expect for 640, which i would think would be done at the same time anyway...)


Any news on the contract though?, as i'm sure it was on for 5 year before it re-newed and its also funded by Sunderland Uni/nexus and i think the council?


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - Michael - 04 Jan 2016

Anyone else think its daft that the Tynedale Links is going use MPDs and Solo's along with the Scania?

Why didn't GNE just replace all the MPDs on the Tynedale Links?


Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - R852 PRG - 04 Jan 2016

(04 Jan 2016, 7:04 pm)Michael Anyone else think its daft that the Tynedale Links is going use MPDs and Solo's along with the Scania?

Why didn't GNE just replace all the MPDs on the Tynedale Links?

I suppose money is a factor...!


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - Michael - 04 Jan 2016

(04 Jan 2016, 7:07 pm)R852 PRG I suppose money is a factor...!

Well instead of buying Solo's for the North Tyne Links they could of just bought them for the Tynedale Links and just replace the NTL MPD's in future.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - citaro5284 - 04 Jan 2016

(04 Jan 2016, 7:10 pm)Michael Well instead of buying Solo's for the North Tyne Links they could of just bought them for the Tynedale Links and just replace the NTL MPD's in future.

No they couldn't.....more to these decisions than you lot ever see  Big Grin


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - Jimmi - 04 Jan 2016

(04 Jan 2016, 7:04 pm)Michael Anyone else think its daft that the Tynedale Links is going use MPDs and Solo's along with the Scania?

Why didn't GNE just replace all the MPDs on the Tynedale Links?

How many Solos is the Tynedale Links services getting again and what is the PVR required for them services?

Can only assume that some will be kept there as spares instead of having spare Solo SR's. Can't see where the Tynedale Links would be as big in terms of money making as the likes of the Venture and IndiGo services are, perhaps a full Solo allocation was unjustifiable. Then of course you will still have a Venture Solo SR going round on Tynedale Links services between runs on the once a day service 689.


Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - R852 PRG - 04 Jan 2016

(04 Jan 2016, 7:10 pm)Michael Well instead of buying Solo's for the North Tyne Links they could of just bought them for the Tynedale Links and just replace the NTL MPD's in future.

You've got to consider the shelf lives of these buses though, Michael. There are a couple at Hexham that are a couple of years younger than the others, which are all 53-reg. At Percy Main; all of those MPDs date from 2003 if memory serves. Their expected lifetime is up, so they're being replaced.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - Michael - 04 Jan 2016

(04 Jan 2016, 7:13 pm)Jimmi How many Solos is the Tynedale Links services getting again and what is the PVR required for them services?

Can only assume that some will be kept there as spares instead of having spare Solo SR's. Can't see where the Tynedale Links would be as big in terms of money making as the likes of the Venture and IndiGo services are, perhaps a full Solo allocation was unjustifiable. Then of course you will still have a Venture Solo SR going round on Tynedale Links services between runs on the once a day service 689.

They are getting 5 and not sure on the PVR for them.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - Michael - 04 Jan 2016

(04 Jan 2016, 7:12 pm)citaro5284 No they couldn't.....more to these decisions than you lot ever see  Big Grin

Tongue, i still don't see why half of the passengers should benefit from new buses and the rest don't, like you said we don't see the decisions made.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - Michael - 04 Jan 2016

(04 Jan 2016, 7:13 pm)R852 PRG You've got to consider the shelf lives of these buses though, Michael. There are a couple at Hexham that are a couple of years younger than the others, which are all 53-reg. At Percy Main; all of those MPDs date from 2003 if memory serves. Their expected lifetime is up, so they're being replaced.

Aye that's true, they also have 3, 52 reg MPD's to replace.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - MurdnunoC - 04 Jan 2016

(04 Jan 2016, 7:17 pm)Michael Tongue, i still don't see why half of the passengers should benefit from new buses and the rest don't, like you said we don't the decisions made.

You can please some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time.

I suspect the other half of passengers will benefit when the time is right.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - Michael - 04 Jan 2016

(04 Jan 2016, 7:20 pm)MurdnunoC You can please some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time.

I suspect the other half of passengers will benefit when the time is right.

You can't, i live no where near the route so i'm not sure why i'm even moaning about it!


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - Dan - 04 Jan 2016

We must remember that some of the services at Hexham are only contracted services, which Go North East may not be awarded with in future. Indeed; it's a possibility that Northumberland County Council may decide in the future that they cannot afford to offer the current level of service in the long-term, and terminate the contract after five years (which, to my memory, is the length for the contract for services 680 and 682)! I suppose it'd be difficult to justify spending a large amount of money to buy new buses, when there's uncertainty of the future for the services the bus would operate on?

The minibus PVR at Hexham is 7 vehicles (with one spare - presumably one of the AD122 branded examples which haven't been de-branded):
1. 682
2. 683
3. 74, 686, 687
4. 74, 686, 688
5. 112, 74, 686
6. 185, 681, X81
7. 141, 688

The seventh must be operated by a vehicle with seatbelts (and at the moment the only minibus with seatbelts at Hexham is 618), owing to a contractual requirement on the 141 scholars service. The 680 service is operated by a Scania L94/Wright Eclipse Solar. I cannot see either of these allocations changing, especially when Go North East went to the expense of refurbishing and retrofitting 618 with seatbelts, specifically for use on the aforementioned contract.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - Adrian - 04 Jan 2016

Unnecessary comments removed. It'd be a shame to spoil a good debate! Smile


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - Michael - 04 Jan 2016

(04 Jan 2016, 7:27 pm)Dan We must remember that some of the services at Hexham are only contracted services, which Go North East may not be awarded with in future. Indeed; it's a possibility that Northumberland County Council may decide in the future that they cannot afford to offer the current level of service in the long-term, and terminate the contract after five years (which, to my memory, is the length for the contract for services 680 and 682)! I suppose it'd be difficult to justify spending a large amount of money to buy new buses, when there's uncertainty of the future for the services the bus would operate on?

The minibus PVR at Hexham is 7 vehicles:
1. 682
2. 683
3. 74, 686, 687
4. 74, 686, 688
5. 112, 74, 686
6. 185, 681, X81
7. 141, 688

The seventh must be operated by a vehicle with seatbelts (and at the moment the only minibus with seatbelts at Hexham is 618), owing to a contractual requirement on the 141 scholars service. The 680 service is operated by a Scania L94/Wright Eclipse Solar. I cannot see either of these allocations changing, especially when Go North East went to the expense of refurbishing and retrofitting 618 with seatbelts, specifically for use on the aforementioned contract.

No doubt they have plans for that already!, it would be good, if that happens, for GNE to change the routes to keep at least a service in the area's which will loose a service. 

I would imagine the Scania will go in soon for repaint, so only 3 (1 spare) MPD's are staying at Hexham?


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - S813 FVK - 04 Jan 2016

4899 has been spotted at Stanley Bus Station - this will be the replacement for 5160.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - Dan - 04 Jan 2016

(04 Jan 2016, 7:51 pm)S813 FVK 4899 has been spotted at Stanley Bus Station - this will be the replacement for 5160.

Didn't take long for it to be spotted - only arrived at Stanley this afternoon at 15:00!


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - pdiddy - 04 Jan 2016

(04 Jan 2016, 7:57 pm)Dan Didn't take long for it to be spotted - only arrived at Stanley this afternoon at 15:00!

Still no sign of #### at Crook! 

We could do with it asap to replace 6021, which still hasn't been replaced lol


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2016 - Dan - 04 Jan 2016

(04 Jan 2016, 8:06 pm)pdiddy Still no sign of #### at Crook! 

We could do with it asap to replace 6021, which still hasn't been replaced lol

StreetDeck 9119 transferred from Riverside to Chester-le-Street an hour or two ago - you should have it tomorrow!  Tongue