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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Jackamcardle - 26 Apr 2016

(26 Apr 2016, 6:07 pm)Crusader I haven't had the chance to see the Red Kite since it changed...does anyone have any views on how it is coping for capacity with the mixed single/double deck allocation? Does reliability seem to have improved?

Reliability seems to have marginally improved - but as I predicted the 47 gets full to the brim with passengers. I was on it the other night and we couldn't let a buggy on (or anyone else for that matter) because there were passengers standing from one end of the bus to the other. We weren't even at the Metro too...

My Auntie also gets the 47 in the mornings and at peak times and she stands every single day on a streetlite, and she also said that in the morning a driver on the 47 went the wrong way at Swalwell Roundabout and went down to the rugby club instead, made her late for work.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - L469 YVK - 26 Apr 2016

Although the 47 might still get busy during the peak times, are the off peak journeys affected in any given way?

Also, if GNE considered to fully convert the Red Kite to double decks, would the 45 / 46 justify the extra capacity?

I don't think the Red Kite will ever go fully double deck. I'd have to look at the times again but I wonder if 6 vehicles would be enough to make sure that the majority if not, all 47 peak time runs in the according direction are double deck. The best option (and no order predictions please, will happily discuss on appropriate thread) if 6 was enough would be to use the current TTX B9s if they got replaced (and aren't in a worse state than the B7s that they replaced). Bearing in mind that due to the nature of the Red Kite, they'd need tip up seats added for pushchairs and bar the lack of NSAs (could be easily ammended), should need no other work done in terms of interiors or comfort.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - BusLoverMum - 26 Apr 2016

(26 Apr 2016, 9:45 pm)DaveyBowyer Although the 47 might still get busy during the peak times, are the off peak journeys affected in any given way?

Also, if GNE considered to fully convert the Red Kite to double decks, would the 45 / 46 justify the extra capacity?

I don't think the Red Kite will ever go fully double deck. I'd have to look at the times again but I wonder if 6 vehicles would be enough to make sure that the majority if not, all 47 peak time runs in the according direction are double deck. The best option (and no order predictions please, will happily discuss on appropriate thread) if 6 was enough would be to use the current TTX B9s if they got replaced (and aren't in a worse state than the B7s that they replaced). Bearing in mind that due to the nature of the Red Kite, they'd need tip up seats added for pushchairs and bar the lack of NSAs (could be easily ammended), should need no other work done in terms of interiors or comfort.

I've caught the 45/46 in both directions at various points on a Saturday and it's always a well filled Streetdeck Streetlite(!), sometimes with standees. No idea about term time weekdays, though.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Ambassador - 26 Apr 2016

(26 Apr 2016, 6:50 pm)Andreos1 Just random figures like.

Then: 20 people travel to Gateshead on the 51.
5 people get on the Q1 at Gateshead.

Now: 25 people on one service

Then there may be that additional growth you mention.

Lies, damn lies and statistics...

I only ever use Quaylink from Gateshead to Newcastle (the Sage detour annoys me) but it's a decent service despite many roadworks and traffic issues in Newcastle.

It would be nice if GNE took on the Sightseeing Franchise, would be a nice link up with Quaylink, we might get better kit too!


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Rapidsnap - 27 Apr 2016

(26 Apr 2016, 10:09 pm)BusLoverMum I've caught the 45/46 in both directions at various points on a Saturday and it's always a well filled Streetdeck, sometimes with standees. No idea about term time weekdays, though.

You mean Volvo B9TL / Wright Eclipse Gemini 2  Tongue


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Dans_bus_photos - 27 Apr 2016

4955 is now red


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Ryan99 - 27 Apr 2016

(27 Apr 2016, 9:46 am)Dans_bus_photos 4955 is now red

Is that the ex prince bishop or do you mean 4954


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Davie - 27 Apr 2016

6002 is now branded

(27 Apr 2016, 10:52 am)Ryan99 Is that the ex prince bishop or do you mean 4954
The ex Fast Cats, from what I've been told.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - grandad - 27 Apr 2016

The 45/46/47 have always been busy during morning and evening peaks particularly between Rowlands Gill and Eldon Sq.  Out of these times loads tend to be about 50%.  Not sure if a full decker allocation could be justified at present.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - L469 YVK - 27 Apr 2016

And to add to the earlier post, 6118 - 6121 could just go to Chester for the Angel (2x branded + 2 spare). They'd only need NSAs fitted.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Dans_bus_photos - 27 Apr 2016

(27 Apr 2016, 10:52 am)Ryan99 Is that the ex prince bishop or do you mean 4954

No otherwise id have said that it was 4954. Its 4955-NA02NVL ex- fast cats


Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - TEN 6083 - 27 Apr 2016

Saw a couple of Streetlites on the way to Newcastle this morning on the 47 going both ways near the MetroCentre and they both looked quite busy this was at about half 9


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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - BusLoverMum - 27 Apr 2016

(27 Apr 2016, 12:35 am)GMitchelhill You mean Volvo B9TL / Wright Eclipse Gemini 2  Tongue

Doh! I meant streetlite, actually Rolleyes


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - JP6004 - 28 Apr 2016

May aswell ask before Michael does  Tongue has anymore streetlites arrived?


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Michael - 28 Apr 2016

The Cobalt Connect tab has been removed from the Go North East site.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Dan - 28 Apr 2016

(28 Apr 2016, 12:24 pm)JP6004 May aswell ask before Michael does  Tongue has anymore streetlites arrived?

No, but 5421 - 5423 are all at Heysham Docks awaiting delivery. Came over from Ireland on Tuesday night.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Michael - 28 Apr 2016

(28 Apr 2016, 12:24 pm)JP6004 May aswell ask before Michael does  Tongue has anymore streetlites arrived?

Cheeky! Wink


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - citaro5284 - 28 Apr 2016

(28 Apr 2016, 12:24 pm)JP6004 May aswell ask before Michael does  Tongue has anymore streetlites arrived?

(28 Apr 2016, 3:47 pm)Michael Cheeky! Wink

But true  Tongue


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - JP6004 - 28 Apr 2016

RUMOUR ALERT: Apparently the 11 is being withdrawn from June???


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - citaro5284 - 28 Apr 2016

(28 Apr 2016, 6:09 pm)JP6004 RUMOUR ALERT: Apparently the 11 is being withdrawn from June???

Never seen anything on VOSA.  If withdrawn from June, it should have been on VOSA by now I would have thought.