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RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Ambassador - 12 Oct 2016

I can't see the Waggonway getting an upgrade. They left those dilapidated unreliable rust bucket DAFs on for years without concern


RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - NK06JXC - 12 Oct 2016

(12 Oct 2016, 5:50 pm)Ambassador I can't see the Waggonway getting an upgrade. They left those dilapidated unreliable rust bucket DAFs on for years without concern

I liked them Dafs, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

In my opinion, the Waggonway Scanias will come in useful if they are to be replaced, because they can replace older vehicles in the fleet.


RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Ambassador - 12 Oct 2016

(12 Oct 2016, 7:04 pm)NK06JXC I liked them Dafs, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

In  my opinion, the Waggonway Scanias will come in useful if they are to be replaced, because they can replace older vehicles in the fleet.

They weren't suitable for a punishing route and were incredibly unreliable. The ex Airport bunch had no hope of making it. I'd guess Waggonway isnt too profitable (aside peak summer beamish runs) and will always end up making do. 

Saying that I've had a streetlite on there and it's been a joy


RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - L469 YVK - 14 Oct 2016

This might sound daft but could the following not happen:

- 16+2 spare deckers for Riverside / Hexham (spares fitted with Tacho)

- 6084 becomes dedicated TTX spare

- 6071 to 6083 transfer to Washington for X1

- 6001 to 6007 and 6049 to 6051 transfer to Stanley for Northerns with 6052 as spare.

- 6054 / 6055 remain at Washington and either see service go back upto every 10 minutes Mon-Fri or they just get used on Saturdays (or if needed during week). If the former, plug sockets fitted on them 2x.

- 6053 acts as a spare for Washington (no plug sockets like 6054/55.

- OmniDekkas begin to replace Presidents / Vykings thus taking a more back seat role.

- Would free up 5x B7TL Geminis or 7x if the Angel got new buses with spares.


RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - JP6004 - 14 Oct 2016

(14 Oct 2016, 5:11 pm)L469 YVK This might sound daft but could the following not happen:

- 16+2 spare deckers for Riverside / Hexham (spares fitted with Tacho)

- 6084 becomes dedicated TTX spare

- 6071 to 6083 transfer to Washington for X1

- 6001 to 6007 and 6049 to 6051 transfer to Stanley for Northerns with 6052 as spare.

- 6054 / 6055 remain at Washington and either see service go back upto every 10 minutes Mon-Fri or they just get used on Saturdays (or if needed during week). If the former, plug sockets fitted on them 2x.

- 6053 acts as a spare for Washington (no plug sockets like 6054/55.

- OmniDekkas begin to replace Presidents / Vykings thus taking a more back seat role.

- Would free up 5x B7TL Geminis or 7x if the Angel got new buses with spares.

If the 10s do get 16+2 deckers i think...

1x B9 to Percy Main to cover PVR shortfall
12x B9 to Stanley for 6
12x Omnidekka to displace Presidents within fleet
4x B7s from Riverside/ Hexham to Percy Main for DFDS (Since Dan confirmed omnidekkas going on DFDS, 4x B7TLs to go to Chester for X25)

If 21 do get deckers I would imagine it would be 2017-2018 financial year

So 17+2 spare deckers
13+2 spare B5LH to Riverside for 27
7 Citaro to X35 (X5 depending on changes)
5 Citaro to Hexham for X84/X85
5 L94 to Percy Main for 19/ Or to Chester for 28 - B10s to be displaced


RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 15 Oct 2016

With recent changes to the Sunderland area appearing on VOSA, some amends to my predication's:

As we know: Streetlites are RUMORED for Blaydon Racers...

Blaydon Racers Citaro's to be allocated to the X5/X6 along with the current ones remaining on the X7, X5/X6 will also offer WIFI.(we don't know the frequancy of each route so i can't say how many Citaro's will be allocated to X5/X6/X7.


Scania's from the X5 (Current X35) will replace the B10's and some older Scania's in the fleet


RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Andreos1 - 15 Oct 2016

(15 Oct 2016, 12:17 pm)Michael With recent changes to the Sunderland area appearing on VOSA, some amends to my predication's:

As we know: Streetlites are RUMORED for Blaydon Racers...

Blaydon Racers Citaro's to be allocated to the X5/X6 along with the current ones remaining on the X7, X5/X6 will also offer WIFI.(we don't know the frequancy of each route so i can't say how many Citaro's will be allocated to X5/X6/X7.


Scania's from the X5 (Current X35) will replace the B10's and some older Scania's in the fleet

Weren't some Solar's just repainted for the Cats Fast?


RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - beefcake - 15 Oct 2016

As far as I'm aware, only 5211 got fully repainted, minus the route vinyls along the top. One of the others (5204 I think) only has a couple of pawprint vinyls near side and a couple have bits of orange paint visible


RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - S813 FVK - 15 Oct 2016

(15 Oct 2016, 12:30 pm)beefcake As far as I'm aware, only 5211 got fully repainted, minus the route vinyls along the top. One of the others (5204 I think) only has a couple of pawprint vinyls near side and a couple have bits of orange paint visible

5204 was also repainted from Prince Bishops. I think 5206 is the solar you are on about.


RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - cbma06 - 15 Oct 2016

(15 Oct 2016, 12:26 pm)Andreos1 Weren't some Solar's just repainted for the Cats Fast?

there was some solars got painted into prince bishop livery when the service got extended to shields, and then shortly after the streetlites arrived.


RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Andreos1 - 15 Oct 2016

(15 Oct 2016, 12:30 pm)beefcake As far as I'm aware, only 5211 got fully repainted, minus the route vinyls along the top. One of the others (5204 I think) only has a couple of pawprint vinyls near side and a couple have bits of orange paint visible

(15 Oct 2016, 12:33 pm)S813 FVK 5204 was also repainted from Prince Bishops. I think 5206 is the solar you are on about.

Yeah, sure there was more than one ex-purple Solar that ended up black.
(15 Oct 2016, 1:09 pm)cbma06 there was some solars got painted into prince bishop livery when the service got extended to shields, and then shortly after the streetlites arrived.

It just seems two minutes since those Solar's went black. 
I think the Solar's that were painted purple for the Shields extension were that colour for about a year.


RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - cbma06 - 15 Oct 2016

(15 Oct 2016, 1:16 pm)Andreos1 Yeah, sure there was more than one ex-purple Solar that ended up black.

It just seems two minutes since those Solar's went black. 
I think the Solar's that were painted purple for the Shields extension were that colour for about a year.

the solars been black for quite sometime now.


RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - LVK 404L - 15 Oct 2016

(15 Oct 2016, 12:17 pm)Michael With recent changes to the Sunderland area appearing on VOSA, some amends to my predication's:

As we know: Streetlites are RUMORED for Blaydon Racers...

Blaydon Racers Citaro's to be allocated to the X5/X6 along with the current ones remaining on the X7, X5/X6 will also offer WIFI.(we don't know the frequancy of each route so i can't say how many Citaro's will be allocated to X5/X6/X7.


Scania's from the X5 (Current X35) will replace the B10's and some older Scania's in the fleet

Has the X35 been officially confirmed as renumbered to X5. Don't think so...


RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 15 Oct 2016

(15 Oct 2016, 7:29 pm)ifm001 Has the X35 been officially confirmed as renumbered to X5. Don't think so...

Looks to be the exact same route, sorry for speculating...


RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - S813 FVK - 15 Oct 2016

(15 Oct 2016, 7:29 pm)ifm001 Has the X35 been officially confirmed as renumbered to X5. Don't think so...

Given that the VOSA registration is variation rather than a new registration for a service currently running between Sunderland and Hartlepool and there is no X5, what else can it be other than a renumbering of the X35 to coincide with the new X6 and X7?


Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - cbma06 - 15 Oct 2016

(15 Oct 2016, 7:29 pm)ifm001 Has the X35 been officially confirmed as renumbered to X5. Don't think so...


Ask Dan


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Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - cbma06 - 15 Oct 2016

(15 Oct 2016, 7:32 pm)Michael Looks to be the exact same route, sorry for speculating...


No need to say sorry for speculating, as there's loads of speculating messages on the forum as info are being held until GNE publish the changes.


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RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - RobinHood - 16 Oct 2016

X5 is the X35 renumbered.
X6 and X7 are hourly, combining into every 30 minutes to Seaham. X6 via Dalton Park and A19, Burnhope Way. X7 via route as now, Essington Way.

X6 via Arriva 23 route to Hartlepool, but to the Marina instead of Victoria Rd.
X7 terminates on a loop of Pennine Drive and Oakerside


RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 16 Oct 2016

(16 Oct 2016, 9:43 am)RobinHood X5 is the X35 renumbered.
X6 and X7 are hourly, combining into every 30 minutes to Seaham. X6 via Dalton Park and A19, Burnhope Way. X7 via route as now, Essington Way.

X6 via Arriva 23 route to Hartlepool, but to the Marina instead of Victoria Rd.
X7 terminates on a loop of Pennine Drive and Oakerside

Good move having the X6 go to Dalton Park especially when the new development has just opened.

I would imagine the services will finish between 6pm and 7pm? (expect the X5 with will probables stay the same as of now)


The PVR is likely to be around 12 all together? (just a massive guess!!!)

7 for the X5 as of now 
3 for the X6
2 for the X7


Wonder if Peterlee will run the X6 along side the X7?


RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - RobinHood - 16 Oct 2016

X6 and X7 interwork in Sunderland