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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - Malarkey - 17 Aug 2016
The X9/X10 were on diversion this morning, seen 6084 around 11:15 going to Newcastle at Shiney Row.
Traffic on the A19 Northbound looked horrendous, traffic through Shiney Row wasn't much better either due to ongoing gas works, would've personally came off at Doxford Park and gone along Durham Road into Sunderland and over the Queen Alexandra Bridge and onto Washington Highway and rejoining the A19 from there.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - S813 FVK - 17 Aug 2016
(17 Aug 2016, 8:36 pm)Malarkey The X9/X10 were on diversion this morning, seen 6084 around 11:15 going to Newcastle at Shiney Row.
Traffic on the A19 Northbound looked horrendous, traffic through Shiney Row wasn't much better either due to ongoing gas works, would've personally came off at Doxford Park and gone along Durham Road into Sunderland and over the Queen Alexandra Bridge and onto Washington Highway and rejoining the A19 from there.
RTC on the A19 this morning:
https://www.facebook.com/simplyGNE/posts/10157304385590710
The delays in Shiney Row caused the X1s to be terminated at Gateshead too
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - V514DFT - 18 Aug 2016
Solo 631 is now branded indigo looks rather smart,wish they would get rid of the orange blinds though,it doesnt look right,think this answers the 'are they being refurbished?' question
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - LeeCalder - 19 Aug 2016
Service 82 unable to service Northside in Birtley due to badly parked cars.....
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - Jamie M - 19 Aug 2016
(19 Aug 2016, 7:06 am)LeeCalder Service 82 unable to service Northside in Birtley due to badly parked cars.....Seriously..? This is one of the most trivial disruptions I've heard of in a long time.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - LeeCalder - 19 Aug 2016
(19 Aug 2016, 7:21 am)Jamie M Seriously..? This is one of the most trivial disruptions I've heard of in a long time.
You'd be surprised. It's a challenge for the MPD's to get round, the B7 President's have a bit more of a struggle.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - Jamie M - 19 Aug 2016
(19 Aug 2016, 7:31 am)LeeCalder You'd be surprised. It's a challenge for the MPD's to get round, the B7 President's have a bit more of a struggle.I feel nexus should have more control over sending warrants to remove vehicles away from bus bays, but then again nexus needs a lot of things to be changed..
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - BJ10VUS - 19 Aug 2016
(19 Aug 2016, 7:21 am)Jamie M Seriously..? This is one of the most trivial disruptions I've heard of in a long time.
It's usually Ellen Wilkinson Estate in Wardley, or somewhere in Fence Houses that gets mentioned for badly parked cars. As a company, they don't want to go round smacking in to cars, as it delays the service and leaves vehicles off the road. Also, the delays incurred in negotiating around badly parked cars can sometimes mean it just isn't worth it, as another bus can quickly catch up behind.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - Adrian - 19 Aug 2016
(19 Aug 2016, 7:43 am)Jamie M I feel nexus should have more control over sending warrants to remove vehicles away from bus bays, but then again nexus needs a lot of things to be changed..
It's not parking in bus bays. It's on street parking. It would be Highways or the Police that deal with it, depending on the level of obstruction.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - biglugs@yahoo.com - 19 Aug 2016
Is 5170 still at stanley?
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - Jamie M - 19 Aug 2016
(19 Aug 2016, 10:38 am)Adrian It's not parking in bus bays. It's on street parking. It would be Highways or the Police that deal with it, depending on the level of obstruction.Alright, thanks
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - South Tyne Lad - 19 Aug 2016
(19 Aug 2016, 10:40 am)biglugs@yahoo.com Is 5170 still at stanley?
Yes, Was on the X32 this morning.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - Andreos1 - 19 Aug 2016
(19 Aug 2016, 9:52 am)BJ10VUS It's usually Ellen Wilkinson Estate in Wardley, or somewhere in Fence Houses that gets mentioned for badly parked cars. As a company, they don't want to go round smacking in to cars, as it delays the service and leaves vehicles off the road. Also, the delays incurred in negotiating around badly parked cars can sometimes mean it just isn't worth it, as another bus can quickly catch up behind.
Avenue Viviene was the culprit apparently. Caused delays to the 71.
So when the 36 was introduced between Houghton and Chester, the omitted the estate (Missing out Murray Avenue which was where the problems actually were).
Still serve Avenue Viviene between Chester and Houghton.
It was the same around St Andrews Avenue in Donwell with the W4/5/6 back in the day too.
Dorset Avenue has had its issues too - 721/777 often got stuck. The 23 seems to get through though - just as it does in Donwell.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - S813 FVK - 19 Aug 2016
(19 Aug 2016, 10:55 am)South Tyne Lad Yes, Was on the X32 this morning.
2 possibilities then providing it hasn't been swapped for another vehicle.
A:
07:15 X32 Stanley to Newcastle (arr 08:04)
08:15 X31 Newcastle to Stanley (arr 08:56)
09:09 X30 Stanley to Newcastle (arr 09:53)
10:00 X30 Newcastle to Stanley (arr 10:38)
10:45 X30 Stanley to Newcastle (arr 11:25)
11:30 X30 Newcastle to Stanley (arr 12:08)
12:15 X30 Stanley to Newcastle (arr 12:55)
13:00 X30 Newcastle to Stanley (arr 13:38)
13:45 X30 Stanley to Newcastle (arr 14:25)
14:30 X30 Newcastle to Stanley (arr 15:10)
15:25 X30 Stanley to Newcastle (arr 16:05)
16:15 X31 Newcastle to Stanley (arr 17:02)
B:
07:58 X32 Stanley to Newcastle (arr 08:57)
09:04 X30 Newcastle to Stanley (arr 09:42)
09:58 X31 Stanley to Newcastle (arr 10:38)
10:45 X31 Newcastle to Stanley (arr 11:24)
11:30 X31 Stanley to Newcastle (arr 12:10)
12:15 X31 Newcastle to Stanley (arr 12:54)
13:00 X31 Stanley to Newcastle (arr 13:40)
13:45 X31 Newcastle to Stanley (arr 14:24)
14:30 X31 Stanley to Newcastle (arr 15:10)
15:15 X31 Newcastle to Stanley (arr 15:57)
16:04 X31 Stanley to Newcastle (arr 16:51)
17:00 X30 Newcastle to Stanley (arr 17:46)
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - LeeCalder - 19 Aug 2016
It passed me on Bensham Bank at 0925 heading to Newcastle on the X31...
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - S813 FVK - 19 Aug 2016
(19 Aug 2016, 11:43 am)LeeCalder It passed me on Bensham Bank at 0925 heading to Newcastle on the X31...
Hmm. In that case, it can't have operated the X32 this morning then as it would not have got back to Stanley in time for the 08:54 X31 (the journey you saw it operating) in service. It could have been swapped in Newcastle and ran NIS to Stanley but that is the only way that it was possible.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - Jamie M - 19 Aug 2016
(19 Aug 2016, 12:08 pm)S813 FVK Hmm. In that case, it can't have operated the X32 this morning then as it would not have got back to Stanley in time for the 08:54 X31 (the journey you saw it operating) in service. It could have been swapped in Newcastle and ran NIS to Stanley but that is the only way that it was possible.
Well somebody said they saw it, so it probably did happen and is entirely plausible.
I don't think GNE really are renowned for sticking to paper for allocations, all sorts of external factors which I don't know enough about to comment on. Wouldn't put it past running light up to Stanley after, but only someone who was there at either side of the trip at the time could tell us what happened!
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - biglugs@yahoo.com - 19 Aug 2016
The 88s are all over 2x south tyne versas were together and packed surely reliablity needs to be changed perhaps the 89 brought back and 88A withdrawn
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - South Tyne Lad - 19 Aug 2016
For the 5170 case, It arrived into Eldon Square around 8:07 on a X32.
(19 Aug 2016, 1:07 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com The 88s are all over 2x south tyne versas were together and packed surely reliablity needs to be changed perhaps the 89 brought back and 88A withdrawn
Its suffered from reliability problems for many months now. My bus home from school was regularly up to 15 Mins late and also often got curtailed meaning I'd have to catch the next one.
Bringing the 89 back won't solve any reliability problems, for one the main delay spots are also on the former 89 route ( West Harton to Green Lane , Jarrow Town Centre and the Lindisfarne and A1300 junctions, Aswell as the section of A194 Inbetween.
And secondly the 89 terminated at Horsley Hill square, Passengers want to be in South Shields for shopping etc.
Thirdly it would mean GNE only have2 buses an hour from Brockely Whins into town against the 6 from Stagecoach on Service 18, It would make the service pointless.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2016 - S813 FVK - 19 Aug 2016
(19 Aug 2016, 12:40 pm)Jamie M Well somebody said they saw it, so it probably did happen and is entirely plausible.
I don't think GNE really are renowned for sticking to paper for allocations, all sorts of external factors which I don't know enough about to comment on. Wouldn't put it past running light up to Stanley after, but only someone who was there at either side of the trip at the time could tell us what happened!
I wasn't trying to suggest that they were wrong but if the same bus has been spotted on journeys which can't possibly be linked without the bus running NIS to the start of the route, something must have happened.
To be allocated to the 08:54 X31 from Stanley (the journey Lee saw it operating) after doing service X32, the bus had to have been allocated to the board which, for the purposes of this, I have called 'A'.
No other bus coming in on an X3- service from Stanley apart from the 07:15 X32 appears to be able to run onto the 08:15 X31 to Stanley. While entirely possible, I personally can't see them sending a bus through to Newcastle to operate a journey and then send a bus coming into Newcastle, completely capable of operating the same journey, NIS back to Stanley to operate another journey which, again, the bus that has been sent to Newcastle could have easily operated.
Whatever has happened is certainly strange. It could have been a typo (the X30 to arrive into Newcastle just before the first X32 is the bus that goes onto the 08:54 X31) but that is unlikely given that 0 and 2 are so far apart on a keyboard.
It will be interesting to see what happened but i certainly won't be losing any sleep over it.