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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - Michael - 03 Sep 2017 NK67 EBP spotted at Heysham yesterday. (6312?) https://www.flickr.com/photos/nsf323alistair/36807846292/in/dateposted/ RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - Dan - 03 Sep 2017 (03 Sep 2017, 8:19 am)Jimmi Other than it not being route branded for the X5, I don't see a problem with this, like you say it is likely to be for the reason given, I'd rather have a service run with a little bus than use a big bus only for the service to swiftly be withdrawn because it can't cover the increased costs of running a large bus, probably just enthusiasts not happy about beastie Solo mates being used over Citaro's. Do the Black Cats Solo SRs have WiFi or USBs? As if not, that's the only other downside to that allocation. A low-carbon emission Optare Solo achieves, on average, 10 MPG. As well as this; Go North East can claim a BSOG payment of an additional 6p per kilometre, operated in public service. By comparison, a Mercedes Citaro achieves around 8 MPG, with no additional BSOG payments. Let's say that a trip on the X5, between Sunderland and Hartlepool, is approximately 27 miles (or 43.5km). A round trip would be 54 miles (or 87km). Looking at the timetable, there's around 10 round trips per day (so 540 miles or 870 kilometres, for the Sunday operation). According to the Go Ahead year end results, Go North East has hedged its fuel price at 36.4p per litre. So if my mental arithmetic is up to scratch on this fine Sunday afternoon, excluding driver costs, it would cost the following to run the bus itself: Mercedes Citaro - £111.70 Low-carbon Optare Solo - £89.36, less £52.20 (which Go North East would receive in additional BSOG) = £37.16 Of course these are just rough numbers, but that equates to a difference of £74.54. Just for a change in vehicle allocation. It is the downside of branding and a difficult choice for the operator to make, but for a developmental service, it makes sense to run the service at as small a cost as possible. The internal specification of the buses isn't vastly different (the Solos have Wi-Fi and Next Stop Announcements, only missing the USB power sockets of the Mercedes Citaros normally allocated). Should the Sunday service operate profitably and with high passenger numbers, I am sure we will see an upgrade in capacity provided. The Optare Solos could easily be deployed on the likes of services 135/136, with Streetlites instead being allocated to the X5 service, if the lower capacity on the Solos causes that much of an issue on the X5. For now, let's walk before we can run... RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - Michael - 03 Sep 2017 Have any other allocations changed on a Sunday due to the changes or during the week? (expect for the X9/X10, which will change at a later date and the X21). RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - citaro5284 - 03 Sep 2017 (03 Sep 2017, 11:23 am)Michael Have any other allocations changed on a a Sunday due to the changes? Streetdecks now on X21 RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - Michael - 03 Sep 2017 (03 Sep 2017, 11:25 am)citaro5284 Streetdecks now on X21 Just edited my post to include the X21 haha RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - Dan - 03 Sep 2017 (03 Sep 2017, 9:55 am)Michael NK67 EBP spotted at Heysham yesterday. (6312?) Yes - that's 6312, but the registration on the photo is incorrect. It is actually registered as NK67 EBF. You can see that the registrations on our fleet list are already taxed: https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/ RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - Dan - 03 Sep 2017 (03 Sep 2017, 11:23 am)Michael Have any other allocations changed on a Sunday due to the changes or during the week? (expect for the X9/X10, which will change at a later date and the X21). There are a large number of changes to weekday peak-time allocations - with some examples including a Chester-le-Street Scania L94 being allocated to service 20, a Riverside Scania L94 being allocated to service X21, a Stanley Scania OmniDekka being allocated to service 10X, etc. On Sundays, no major changes. Deptford summarised as below: Service 8 - Solo (Fleet livery) Service 9 - Streetlite (Black Cats or Fleet Livery) Service 38C - Solo SR (Fleet livery) Service 135/136 - Streetlite (Black Cats) Service X5 - Solo SR (Black Cats), fleet livery Streetlite as spare. RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - S813 FVK - 03 Sep 2017 Guessing the Stanley 10X is the 16:52 to Prudhoe? RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - JP6004 - 03 Sep 2017 With a load of Vykings forming part of the Special Events fleet, will they be repainted white the same as the coaches? (02 Sep 2017, 9:21 am)citaro5284 Lets hope the stickers hold better than the Streetdecks on Castles or the poor bloke - he will end up legless on the A19...and we all know that could be dangerous Nothing worse im sure! RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - Greg in Weardale - 03 Sep 2017 (01 Sep 2017, 8:58 pm)JP6004 It looks really smart. Dont like the rear at all especially since all the windows are covered up Agreed. Front and sides good, rear rubbish. It'll make inside at the back dark and dismal. RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - Dan - 03 Sep 2017 (03 Sep 2017, 5:11 pm)Greg in Weardale Agreed. Front and sides good, rear rubbish. It'll make inside at the back dark and dismal. The passengers on Transdev's buses seem to cope alright. There's plenty of lighting. Transdev Yorkshire Coastliner: 3630 / BT66MVN by Daniel Graham, on Flickr Transdev Harrogate & District 3620 BL65 YYT on 36 (Rear), Leeds Bus Stn by sambuses, on Flickr RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - citaro5284 - 03 Sep 2017 (03 Sep 2017, 5:11 pm)Greg in Weardale Agreed. Front and sides good, rear rubbish. It'll make inside at the back dark and dismal. at least nothing on the windows - cannot have it all ways #saveourwindows RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - Citaro5326 - 03 Sep 2017 Not happy at the 35A sunday timetable ! At hylton castle shops towards heworth 08,28 then a 40 minute gap ! Nice to see it on time although my mate was driving ... RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - BusLoverMum - 03 Sep 2017 (02 Sep 2017, 6:10 pm)Malarkey I would of put the "Go North East | Journey's Taken Care Of" slogan on the rear upper deck window, then put the feature symbols on the rear advert itself above the X9/X10. Furthermore I would of aimed the rear adverts towards local attractions across the route, similar to what Transdev have with the Yorkshire Coastliner B5's. Aye. Tees flyover. Stockton nick. Peterlee er... RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - Michael - 03 Sep 2017 (03 Sep 2017, 5:46 pm)Citaro5326 Not happy at the 35A sunday timetable ! At hylton castle shops towards heworth 08,28 then a 40 minute gap ! Nice to see it on time although my mate was driving ... That's daft, but it's probables due to the 35A not changing to the X5 at Houghton throughout the day now. RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - citaro5284 - 03 Sep 2017 (03 Sep 2017, 6:24 pm)BusLoverMum Aye. Tees flyover. Stockton nick. Peterlee er... **like** RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - Citaro5326 - 03 Sep 2017 (03 Sep 2017, 6:28 pm)Michael That's daft, but it's probables due to the 35A not changing to the X5 at Houghton throughout the day now. Its stupid but its better in a way , the 12 and 12A is the same at winlaton. RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - OrangeArrow49 - 03 Sep 2017 (03 Sep 2017, 5:42 am)citaro5284 GNE drivers have their meal breaks in the Arriva Haymarket canteen, so might have had something to do with that. RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - JP6004 - 03 Sep 2017 I think the Angel wll be prioritised over the CC as like the Ten; dont have a full standarised allocation......yet RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2017 - OrangeArrow49 - 03 Sep 2017 (03 Sep 2017, 8:41 pm)JP6004 I think the Angel wll be prioritised over the CC as like the Ten; dont have a full standarised allocation......yet (03 Sep 2017, 8:41 pm)JP6004 I think the Angel wll be prioritised over the CC as like the Ten; dont have a full standarised allocation......yet |