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RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 06 Jul 2014
Service 30 is being operated by a different company after Saturday 5th July due to changes with the contract with Northumberland County Council. Any idea who will operate it?
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - peter - 06 Jul 2014
(06 Jul 2014, 7:00 pm)Tom Service 30 is being operated by a different company after Saturday 5th July due to changes with the contract with Northumberland County Council. Any idea who will operate it?
Phoenix Taxis. See here: http://www.northumberland.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=3972
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 06 Jul 2014
(06 Jul 2014, 8:51 pm)peter Phoenix Taxis. See here: http://www.northumberland.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=3972
Wonder what they will use.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 15 Jul 2014
Have we heard anything more on the Northumberland tenders?
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - peter - 17 Jul 2014
From the 28th July Nexus are making changes to the 37/73:
The 37 bus will, from 28 July, be extended from Washington Galleries to serve Biddick, Teal Farm, Waterview Park, Sulgrave and Concord, including Coach Road.
This means the 37 will provide a new direct route to major employment sites at Waterview Park, and Doxford International for people living in south Sunderland, Herrington, Shiney Row and north Washington.
The 73 will provide a more direct hourly link from Teal Farm to Sunderland city centre, as well as bringing back a popular morning commuter journey from Coach Road and Concord to the city.
The bus will no longer serve Biddick or Galleries, with the 37 taking over these journeys on its new route.
Link: http://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/better-local-bus-services-washington
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 17 Jul 2014
(17 Jul 2014, 3:56 pm)peter From the 28th July Nexus are making changes to the 37/73:
Link: http://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/better-local-bus-services-washington
That's how it should of being for the 37 from the start, shame they haven't kept the 73 going to the galleries to
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Malarkey - 17 Jul 2014
(17 Jul 2014, 4:02 pm)Michael That's how it should of being for the 37 from the start, shame they haven't kept the 73 going to the galleries to
Why when the 37 has replaced it.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 17 Jul 2014
(17 Jul 2014, 8:00 pm)NEBCD Malarkey Why when the 37 has replaced it.
Just to keep the link from Castletown etc.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - MurdnunoC - 17 Jul 2014
I agree with the comment Michael made about services 37 and 73. The route of service 73 was an absolute mess between Waterview Park and The Galleries. The extension of service 37 from The Galleries to Concord via Biddick and Teal Farm rectifies previous mistakes and provides the same level of service with the added bonus of providing new links between Doxford Park and areas lying to the north and east of Washington.
Service 73 doesn't really need to go to the Galleries though. Connections can still be made at Concord which is just as accessible, by bus, from most parts of Washington although I accept travelling there may take slightly longer.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Adrian - 30 Jul 2014
Current Nexus contract list (as of 27th July 2014) is attached to this post.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 30 Jul 2014
(30 Jul 2014, 4:22 pm)aureolin Current Nexus contract list (as of 27th July 2014) is attached to this post.
Thanks for sharing.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Adrian - 30 Jul 2014
Something I've spotted straight away. It would appear that the minimum spec for Compass Community Transport's 37 board is a Euro 5 vehicle with capacity of 16, yet the board Gateshead Central Taxis have won for the 37 and 73 requires 3x Euro 5 vehicles with a capacity of 49. Seems bizarre how one operator can be contracted for 16 and one for 49 - i.e. 3x the capacity!
7102 37,8X Compass Community Tpt 1 L1605 29/05/2011 25/07/2015 Wholly secured
7614 37,73 Central Taxis Gateshead 3 L4905 27/07/2014 22/07/2017 Wholly securedAlso noted that the M2/M2A requires a Euro 4 vehicle for the Nexus funded runs. I'd assume these would be Sunday journeys, given that Arriva operate on an evening, with GNE running Concord-Heworth commecially. Both the MPDs and Cadets are Euro 3 vehicles, so I wonder if either a) GNE are just taking the hit here, or b) that information is wrong?
7598 M2,M2A Go Northern 1 L2304 01/06/2014 30/05/2015 Partially securedRE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 30 Jul 2014
(30 Jul 2014, 6:00 pm)aureolin Something I've spotted straight away. It would appear that the minimum spec for Compass Community Transport's 37 board is a Euro 5 vehicle with capacity of 16, yet the board Gateshead Central Taxis have won for the 37 and 73 requires 3x Euro 5 vehicles with a capacity of 49. Seems bizarre how one operator can be contracted for 16 and one for 49 - i.e. 3x the capacity!
7102 37,8X Compass Community Tpt 1 L1605 29/05/2011 25/07/2015 Wholly secured
7614 37,73 Central Taxis Gateshead 3 L4905 27/07/2014 22/07/2017 Wholly secured
Also noted that the M2/M2A requires a Euro 4 vehicle for the Nexus funded runs. I'd assume these would be Sunday journeys, given that Arriva operate on an evening, with GNE running Concord-Heworth commecially. Both the MPDs and Cadets are Euro 3 vehicles, so I wonder if either a) GNE are just taking the hit here, or b) that information is wrong?
7598 M2,M2A Go Northern 1 L2304 01/06/2014 30/05/2015 Partially secured
The contract for services 37/73 certainly originally stipulated the use of vehicles with a minimum capacity of 49, with Euro 4 vehicles, to my memory... Clearly Compass has submitted a non-conforming bid which has been accepted due to the lower cost for Nexus. I'd assume this is why the contract only lasts for one year with CCT, but three with GCT. Bizarre, nevertheless...
MPDs 603-606 and Cadets 8247/48, 8251-55 and 8260 are all Euro 4 vehicles. Although fitted with Euro 3 engines when new, they have had Eminox modifications to make them Euro 4. Indeed, all of Washington's fleet is Euro 4 or Euro 5. I have stated in the past that the overwhelming majority of Go North East's fleet is a minimum of Euro 4, thanks to Eminox modifications, with only a few vehicles being less than that, at Euro 2 or 3.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - tyresmoke - 30 Jul 2014
(30 Jul 2014, 6:06 pm)Dan The contract for services 37/73 certainly originally stipulated the use of vehicles with a minimum capacity of 49, with Euro 4 vehicles, to my memory... Clearly Compass has submitted a non-conforming bid which has been accepted due to the lower cost for Nexus. I'd assume this is why the contract only lasts for one year with CCT, but three with GCT. Bizarre, nevertheless...
MPDs 603-606 and Cadets 8247/48, 8251-55 and 8260 are all Euro 4 vehicles. Although fitted with Euro 3 engines when new, they have had Eminox modifications to make them Euro 4. I have stated in the past that the overwhelming majority of Go North East's fleet is a minimum of Euro 4, thanks to Eminox modifications, with only a few vehicles being less than that, at Euro 2 or 3.
Looks to me like the Compass contract is an existing one running from 2011 Dan... Not sure where they fit in to the schedule?
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 30 Jul 2014
(30 Jul 2014, 6:11 pm)tyresmoke Looks to me like the Compass contract is an existing one running from 2011 Dan... Not sure where they fit in to the schedule?
They're the peak time 'extras' that they operated previously too (which fits in with it being an already established contract) - GCT took over GNE's run on service 37. Now that it interworks with service 73, it requires 3 vehicles in total.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - tyresmoke - 30 Jul 2014
(30 Jul 2014, 6:13 pm)Dan They're the peak time 'extras' that they operated previously too (which fits in with it being an already established contract) - GCT took over GNE's run on service 37. Now that it interworks with service 73, it requires 3 vehicles in total.
Makes sense, cheers
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Adrian - 30 Jul 2014
(30 Jul 2014, 6:13 pm)Dan They're the peak time 'extras' that they operated previously too (which fits in with it being an already established contract) - GCT took over GNE's run on service 37. Now that it interworks with service 73, it requires 3 vehicles in total.
I recall that last time GNE didn't have the 37, they put a peak time 137 in direct competition. I wonder if they'll do something similar again, given that there is about 3 runs each way per day that (at least used to) have good loads.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Drifter60 - 30 Jul 2014
How does nexus set the euro rating? Just odd how 135/136 is Euro 5, 29 is Euro 4 etc.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 31 Jul 2014
(30 Jul 2014, 11:17 pm)Drifter60 How does nexus set the euro rating? Just odd how 135/136 is Euro 5, 29 is Euro 4 etc.
The higher the Euro rating, the more expensive the tender price set from bus operators will be (especially if they have to order new vehicles).
So as far as I know, it depends on how cheaply Nexus want the contract to go for. I recall the contract for service 33 in Newcastle going down from Euro 4 to Euro 3, half way through the consultation...
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 03 Aug 2014
I wonder if GNE will take on the 880? Will increase the paasengers on the X85 too.