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Michael



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31 Jul 2015, 1:11 pm #1,261
(31 Jul 2015, 1:04 pm)S813 FVK Yeah but what does Citaro know...

With him working at GNE, he said he knows whats on order.... and red arrows wasn't on... unless its changed...

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
31 Jul 2015, 1:11 pm #1,261

(31 Jul 2015, 1:04 pm)S813 FVK Yeah but what does Citaro know...

With him working at GNE, he said he knows whats on order.... and red arrows wasn't on... unless its changed...


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

31 Jul 2015, 1:16 pm #1,262
(31 Jul 2015, 1:11 pm)Andreos1 I love having a look at the page and have mentioned it a few times. I never noticed who retweeted the pics though.

I see quite a bit of Tyne and Wear PTE-liveried double deckers cropping up. One of my favourite things from that page is of the RMS Mauritania, when it was sailing down the Tyne having been built there. Not many people will know this, but the River Tyne was the birthplace of some of the most iconic ships of the 19th century. I'm sure Cunard built the Lusitania and Aquitania elsewhere, think it was by a company with the name John in it, in Scotland somewhere. Quite fond of ships as well as buses and trains. Tongue
Edited 31 Jul 2015, 1:16 pm by R852 PRG.
R852 PRG
31 Jul 2015, 1:16 pm #1,262

(31 Jul 2015, 1:11 pm)Andreos1 I love having a look at the page and have mentioned it a few times. I never noticed who retweeted the pics though.

I see quite a bit of Tyne and Wear PTE-liveried double deckers cropping up. One of my favourite things from that page is of the RMS Mauritania, when it was sailing down the Tyne having been built there. Not many people will know this, but the River Tyne was the birthplace of some of the most iconic ships of the 19th century. I'm sure Cunard built the Lusitania and Aquitania elsewhere, think it was by a company with the name John in it, in Scotland somewhere. Quite fond of ships as well as buses and trains. Tongue

S813 FVK



6,030
31 Jul 2015, 1:18 pm #1,263
(31 Jul 2015, 1:04 pm)DaveyBowyer The whole point is that 6084 becomes a permanant vehicle on the TEN. This is what could happen:

- 6001 to 6007 to Crook alongside 3943 as a spare.
- 6049(T) to Riverside as a TTX spare. Can be used on TEN if not needed.
- 6050 to Riverside as a TEN / Red Kite spare.
- 6051 to Hexham as a TEN spare.
- 6052 / 6053 to Percy Main as Cobalt spares. Alongside 6117, these can be used in the afternoons if available.
- 6054 / 6055 to Chester, fitted with GKN tech and become part of the Angel PVR.
- 6084 (T) becomes a permanant fixture on the TEN and branded up.
- 3962 / 3965 become dedicated spares for the Angel.
- 3941, 3942, 3963, 3964 go to Percy Main for DFDS work repacing 2x non DDA compiant Lolynes and the Presidents can be used elsewhere.

I can see what you are trying to do - having 6084 on the TEN and 6054/6055 on the Angel would 'match' with 6071-6083 and 6056-6070 but it just isn't logical to put a younger vehicle on the TEN permanently but have an older vehicle replace it as the TEN and TTX spare...you'd be far better off breaking what you are trying to do and have both 6049 and 6084 as corporate spares with one of 6052 or 6053 becoming being repainted and branded as TEN. The Cobalt Clipper does not need 3 spare vehicles.

(31 Jul 2015, 1:11 pm)Michael With him working at GNE, he said he knows whats on order.... and red arrows wasn't on... unless its changed...

Was a tongue in cheek comment. Should have made it clearer Tongue
Edited 31 Jul 2015, 1:19 pm by S813 FVK.
S813 FVK
31 Jul 2015, 1:18 pm #1,263

(31 Jul 2015, 1:04 pm)DaveyBowyer The whole point is that 6084 becomes a permanant vehicle on the TEN. This is what could happen:

- 6001 to 6007 to Crook alongside 3943 as a spare.
- 6049(T) to Riverside as a TTX spare. Can be used on TEN if not needed.
- 6050 to Riverside as a TEN / Red Kite spare.
- 6051 to Hexham as a TEN spare.
- 6052 / 6053 to Percy Main as Cobalt spares. Alongside 6117, these can be used in the afternoons if available.
- 6054 / 6055 to Chester, fitted with GKN tech and become part of the Angel PVR.
- 6084 (T) becomes a permanant fixture on the TEN and branded up.
- 3962 / 3965 become dedicated spares for the Angel.
- 3941, 3942, 3963, 3964 go to Percy Main for DFDS work repacing 2x non DDA compiant Lolynes and the Presidents can be used elsewhere.

I can see what you are trying to do - having 6084 on the TEN and 6054/6055 on the Angel would 'match' with 6071-6083 and 6056-6070 but it just isn't logical to put a younger vehicle on the TEN permanently but have an older vehicle replace it as the TEN and TTX spare...you'd be far better off breaking what you are trying to do and have both 6049 and 6084 as corporate spares with one of 6052 or 6053 becoming being repainted and branded as TEN. The Cobalt Clipper does not need 3 spare vehicles.

(31 Jul 2015, 1:11 pm)Michael With him working at GNE, he said he knows whats on order.... and red arrows wasn't on... unless its changed...

Was a tongue in cheek comment. Should have made it clearer Tongue

Michael



19,165
31 Jul 2015, 1:19 pm #1,264
(31 Jul 2015, 1:18 pm)S813 FVK I can see what you are trying to do - having 6084 on the TEN and 6054/6055 on the Angel would 'match' with 6071-6083 and 6056-6070 but it just isn't logical to put a younger vehicle on the TEN permanently but have an older vehicle replace it as the TEN and TTX spare...you'd be far better off breaking what you are trying to do and have both 6049 and 6084 as corporate spares with one of 6052 or 6053 becoming being repainted and branded as TEN. The Cobalt Clipper does not need 3 spare vehicles.


Was a tongue in cheek comment. Should have made it clearer Tongue

Haha sorry! Tongue

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
31 Jul 2015, 1:19 pm #1,264

(31 Jul 2015, 1:18 pm)S813 FVK I can see what you are trying to do - having 6084 on the TEN and 6054/6055 on the Angel would 'match' with 6071-6083 and 6056-6070 but it just isn't logical to put a younger vehicle on the TEN permanently but have an older vehicle replace it as the TEN and TTX spare...you'd be far better off breaking what you are trying to do and have both 6049 and 6084 as corporate spares with one of 6052 or 6053 becoming being repainted and branded as TEN. The Cobalt Clipper does not need 3 spare vehicles.


Was a tongue in cheek comment. Should have made it clearer Tongue

Haha sorry! Tongue


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

MurdnunoC



3,974
31 Jul 2015, 1:26 pm #1,265
(31 Jul 2015, 1:11 pm)Andreos1 None of the shops that are in the Interchange Centre now - are in the photo. It is all just rubble.
I reckon the shops were built in the mid-80's. So only a few years after that photo was taken and not long before you came to Gateshead.

Note the walkway under Wilkinsons (what was Presto/Safeway), into the metro station, is open to the elements too.

I can't remember Gateshead Interchange ever looking like that, which is strange as I definitely recall being dragged around Sheppards with my mother and blagging her (and my aunt) to buy me He-Man figures. This would have probably been around the same time. 

On another note, I imagine it would have been nice sitting on the grass and waiting for your bus to come on a hot summers day in Gateshead. Then again, perhaps not...
MurdnunoC
31 Jul 2015, 1:26 pm #1,265

(31 Jul 2015, 1:11 pm)Andreos1 None of the shops that are in the Interchange Centre now - are in the photo. It is all just rubble.
I reckon the shops were built in the mid-80's. So only a few years after that photo was taken and not long before you came to Gateshead.

Note the walkway under Wilkinsons (what was Presto/Safeway), into the metro station, is open to the elements too.

I can't remember Gateshead Interchange ever looking like that, which is strange as I definitely recall being dragged around Sheppards with my mother and blagging her (and my aunt) to buy me He-Man figures. This would have probably been around the same time. 

On another note, I imagine it would have been nice sitting on the grass and waiting for your bus to come on a hot summers day in Gateshead. Then again, perhaps not...

S813 FVK



6,030
31 Jul 2015, 1:35 pm #1,266
(31 Jul 2015, 1:26 pm)MurdnunoC I can't remember Gateshead Interchange ever looking like that, which is strange as I definitely recall being dragged around Sheppards with my mother and blagging her (and my aunt) to buy me He-Man figures. This would have probably been around the same time. 

On another note, I imagine it would have been nice sitting on the grass and waiting for your bus to come on a hot summers day in Gateshead. Then again, perhaps not...

I believe it was like that in 2001 still when the 4950-4953 artics were intorudced onto the X66.
S813 FVK
31 Jul 2015, 1:35 pm #1,266

(31 Jul 2015, 1:26 pm)MurdnunoC I can't remember Gateshead Interchange ever looking like that, which is strange as I definitely recall being dragged around Sheppards with my mother and blagging her (and my aunt) to buy me He-Man figures. This would have probably been around the same time. 

On another note, I imagine it would have been nice sitting on the grass and waiting for your bus to come on a hot summers day in Gateshead. Then again, perhaps not...

I believe it was like that in 2001 still when the 4950-4953 artics were intorudced onto the X66.

31 Jul 2015, 1:38 pm #1,267
(31 Jul 2015, 1:35 pm)S813 FVK I believe it was like that in 2001 still when the 4950-4953 artics were intorudced onto the X66.

I'm sure there is a thread elsewhere on the forum, called ''Satellite Imagery'' (or something along those lines), and shows how Gateshead Interchange has changed over time.
R852 PRG
31 Jul 2015, 1:38 pm #1,267

(31 Jul 2015, 1:35 pm)S813 FVK I believe it was like that in 2001 still when the 4950-4953 artics were intorudced onto the X66.

I'm sure there is a thread elsewhere on the forum, called ''Satellite Imagery'' (or something along those lines), and shows how Gateshead Interchange has changed over time.

Andreos1



14,211
31 Jul 2015, 1:40 pm #1,268
(31 Jul 2015, 1:16 pm)R852 PRG I see quite a bit of Tyne and Wear PTE-liveried double deckers cropping up. One of my favourite things from that page is of the RMS Mauritania, when it was sailing down the Tyne having been built there. Not many people will know this, but the River Tyne was the birthplace of some of the most iconic ships of the 19th century. I'm sure Cunard built the Lusitania and Aquitania elsewhere, think it was by a company with the name John in it, in Scotland somewhere. Quite fond of ships as well as buses and trains. Tongue
My twitter isn't the best in the world - but dear me! Wink
(31 Jul 2015, 1:26 pm)MurdnunoC I can't remember Gateshead Interchange ever looking like that, which is strange as I definitely recall being dragged around Sheppards with my mother and blagging her (and my aunt) to buy me He-Man figures. This would have probably been around the same time. 

On another note, I imagine it would have been nice sitting on the grass and waiting for your bus to come on a hot summers day in Gateshead. Then again, perhaps not...

What was Shepherds, was knocked down (and turned into the Tesco car park) around the same period as the Interchange Centre shops were built. If not the same time, definitely a year or two before the 80's were out.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
31 Jul 2015, 1:40 pm #1,268

(31 Jul 2015, 1:16 pm)R852 PRG I see quite a bit of Tyne and Wear PTE-liveried double deckers cropping up. One of my favourite things from that page is of the RMS Mauritania, when it was sailing down the Tyne having been built there. Not many people will know this, but the River Tyne was the birthplace of some of the most iconic ships of the 19th century. I'm sure Cunard built the Lusitania and Aquitania elsewhere, think it was by a company with the name John in it, in Scotland somewhere. Quite fond of ships as well as buses and trains. Tongue
My twitter isn't the best in the world - but dear me! Wink
(31 Jul 2015, 1:26 pm)MurdnunoC I can't remember Gateshead Interchange ever looking like that, which is strange as I definitely recall being dragged around Sheppards with my mother and blagging her (and my aunt) to buy me He-Man figures. This would have probably been around the same time. 

On another note, I imagine it would have been nice sitting on the grass and waiting for your bus to come on a hot summers day in Gateshead. Then again, perhaps not...

What was Shepherds, was knocked down (and turned into the Tesco car park) around the same period as the Interchange Centre shops were built. If not the same time, definitely a year or two before the 80's were out.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

31 Jul 2015, 2:02 pm #1,269
(31 Jul 2015, 1:38 pm)R852 PRG I'm sure there is a thread elsewhere on the forum, called ''Satellite Imagery'' (or something along those lines), and shows how Gateshead Interchange has changed over time.

Here is the thread and the post.
omnicity4659
31 Jul 2015, 2:02 pm #1,269

(31 Jul 2015, 1:38 pm)R852 PRG I'm sure there is a thread elsewhere on the forum, called ''Satellite Imagery'' (or something along those lines), and shows how Gateshead Interchange has changed over time.

Here is the thread and the post.

Michael



19,165
31 Jul 2015, 2:11 pm #1,270
Quaylink celebration event in Newcastle - Monday 3 August

http://www.simplygo.com/news/quaylink-ce...y-3-august

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
31 Jul 2015, 2:11 pm #1,270

Quaylink celebration event in Newcastle - Monday 3 August

http://www.simplygo.com/news/quaylink-ce...y-3-august


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

BusLoverMum



5,281
31 Jul 2015, 2:16 pm #1,271
(31 Jul 2015, 1:26 pm)MurdnunoC I can't remember Gateshead Interchange ever looking like that, which is strange as I definitely recall being dragged around Sheppards with my mother and blagging her (and my aunt) to buy me He-Man figures. This would have probably been around the same time. 

On another note, I imagine it would have been nice sitting on the grass and waiting for your bus to come on a hot summers day in Gateshead. Then again, perhaps not...

I saw all that grass in the picture and just thought giant toilet Big Grin  One of my first memories of shopping in Gateshead high street was a mother pulling her boy's pants down so he could wee against the wall on the front of Iceland. And she can't have been the only one with that mentality because it usually smelt delightful on a hot summer's day. A bit like Peterlee, now, in fact.
BusLoverMum
31 Jul 2015, 2:16 pm #1,271

(31 Jul 2015, 1:26 pm)MurdnunoC I can't remember Gateshead Interchange ever looking like that, which is strange as I definitely recall being dragged around Sheppards with my mother and blagging her (and my aunt) to buy me He-Man figures. This would have probably been around the same time. 

On another note, I imagine it would have been nice sitting on the grass and waiting for your bus to come on a hot summers day in Gateshead. Then again, perhaps not...

I saw all that grass in the picture and just thought giant toilet Big Grin  One of my first memories of shopping in Gateshead high street was a mother pulling her boy's pants down so he could wee against the wall on the front of Iceland. And she can't have been the only one with that mentality because it usually smelt delightful on a hot summer's day. A bit like Peterlee, now, in fact.

31 Jul 2015, 2:19 pm #1,272
Dose anyone know where abouts the peterlee depot is

JMoss
jaimzm
31 Jul 2015, 2:19 pm #1,272

Dose anyone know where abouts the peterlee depot is


JMoss

L469 YVK



3,549
31 Jul 2015, 2:22 pm #1,273
(31 Jul 2015, 1:18 pm)S813 FVK I can see what you are trying to do - having 6084 on the TEN and 6054/6055 on the Angel would 'match' with 6071-6083 and 6056-6070 but it just isn't logical to put a younger vehicle on the TEN permanently but have an older vehicle replace it as the TEN and TTX spare...you'd be far better off breaking what you are trying to do and have both 6049 and 6084 as corporate spares with one of 6052 or 6053 becoming being repainted and branded as TEN. The Cobalt Clipper does not need 3 spare vehicles.


Was a tongue in cheek comment. Should have made it clearer
The proper Cobalt Clipper runs (not just Battle Hill to Newcastle) are worked by the following though at present:

Lolyne or B7TL:
- 16:05 x39 from Cobalt which then also does the 17:42 309 to Blyth from Newcastle after working a 307.
- 16:10 309 from Newcastle to Blyth.
- 16:40 309 from Newcastle to Blyth.

If you were at Haymarket just for a single fare and saw a 13 plate B5LH or 64 reg Streetlite parked against a 15/16 year old double deck with none of the advertised perks, what would you choose? And on weekends, 6052/6053 could also provide extra capacity on the Coaster too.

And the whole point of 6084 going on the TEN is that bar the lack of leather headrests and CCTV monitors, the specification is exactly the same. Then if a need for a spare bus arises on the TEN / TTX, then passengers would still at least get Free Wi-Fi, Next Stop Announcements and High Back Seats and also a relatively modern bus too that can also handle the A19 (6049). It's far from matching fleet numbers but more to do with:

- service specifications
- route needs
L469 YVK
31 Jul 2015, 2:22 pm #1,273

(31 Jul 2015, 1:18 pm)S813 FVK I can see what you are trying to do - having 6084 on the TEN and 6054/6055 on the Angel would 'match' with 6071-6083 and 6056-6070 but it just isn't logical to put a younger vehicle on the TEN permanently but have an older vehicle replace it as the TEN and TTX spare...you'd be far better off breaking what you are trying to do and have both 6049 and 6084 as corporate spares with one of 6052 or 6053 becoming being repainted and branded as TEN. The Cobalt Clipper does not need 3 spare vehicles.


Was a tongue in cheek comment. Should have made it clearer
The proper Cobalt Clipper runs (not just Battle Hill to Newcastle) are worked by the following though at present:

Lolyne or B7TL:
- 16:05 x39 from Cobalt which then also does the 17:42 309 to Blyth from Newcastle after working a 307.
- 16:10 309 from Newcastle to Blyth.
- 16:40 309 from Newcastle to Blyth.

If you were at Haymarket just for a single fare and saw a 13 plate B5LH or 64 reg Streetlite parked against a 15/16 year old double deck with none of the advertised perks, what would you choose? And on weekends, 6052/6053 could also provide extra capacity on the Coaster too.

And the whole point of 6084 going on the TEN is that bar the lack of leather headrests and CCTV monitors, the specification is exactly the same. Then if a need for a spare bus arises on the TEN / TTX, then passengers would still at least get Free Wi-Fi, Next Stop Announcements and High Back Seats and also a relatively modern bus too that can also handle the A19 (6049). It's far from matching fleet numbers but more to do with:

- service specifications
- route needs

Dan

Site Administrator

18,116
31 Jul 2015, 2:23 pm #1,274
(31 Jul 2015, 2:19 pm)jaimzm Dose anyone know where abouts the peterlee depot is

Unit 7A, QC Space Complex 3, Cook Way, North West Industrial Estate, Peterlee.

Service 201 stops nearby (albeit in one direction only).
Dan
31 Jul 2015, 2:23 pm #1,274

(31 Jul 2015, 2:19 pm)jaimzm Dose anyone know where abouts the peterlee depot is

Unit 7A, QC Space Complex 3, Cook Way, North West Industrial Estate, Peterlee.

Service 201 stops nearby (albeit in one direction only).

31 Jul 2015, 2:28 pm #1,275
(31 Jul 2015, 2:23 pm)Dan Unit 7A, QC Space Complex 3, Cook Way, North West Industrial Estate, Peterlee.

Service 201 stops nearby (albeit in one direction only).

Thank you budddy

JMoss
jaimzm
31 Jul 2015, 2:28 pm #1,275

(31 Jul 2015, 2:23 pm)Dan Unit 7A, QC Space Complex 3, Cook Way, North West Industrial Estate, Peterlee.

Service 201 stops nearby (albeit in one direction only).

Thank you budddy


JMoss

Dan

Site Administrator

18,116
31 Jul 2015, 2:30 pm #1,276
(31 Jul 2015, 2:28 pm)jaimzm Thank you budddy

No problem - worth noting that nothing is usually parked there during the day as the depot is merely an outstation. All spare buses are usually parked up in the bus station.

On Sundays, a lot more is visible given that service 59 (PVR 1) is the only one which operates, with the rest of the buses parked up in the depot.
Dan
31 Jul 2015, 2:30 pm #1,276

(31 Jul 2015, 2:28 pm)jaimzm Thank you budddy

No problem - worth noting that nothing is usually parked there during the day as the depot is merely an outstation. All spare buses are usually parked up in the bus station.

On Sundays, a lot more is visible given that service 59 (PVR 1) is the only one which operates, with the rest of the buses parked up in the depot.

Jimmi



10,969
31 Jul 2015, 2:33 pm #1,277
(31 Jul 2015, 2:30 pm)Dan No problem - worth noting that nothing is usually parked there during the day as the depot is merely an outstation. All spare buses are usually parked up in the bus station.

On Sundays, a lot more is visible given that service 59 (PVR 1) is the only one which operates, with the rest of the buses parked up in the depot.
Sure enough I found this out the hard way by actually going to it and being left disappointed. Hence the posts in the Annoying thread.

Couldn't see any Solo SR's anywhere in Peterlee today.
Jimmi
31 Jul 2015, 2:33 pm #1,277

(31 Jul 2015, 2:30 pm)Dan No problem - worth noting that nothing is usually parked there during the day as the depot is merely an outstation. All spare buses are usually parked up in the bus station.

On Sundays, a lot more is visible given that service 59 (PVR 1) is the only one which operates, with the rest of the buses parked up in the depot.
Sure enough I found this out the hard way by actually going to it and being left disappointed. Hence the posts in the Annoying thread.

Couldn't see any Solo SR's anywhere in Peterlee today.

31 Jul 2015, 2:46 pm #1,278
(31 Jul 2015, 2:33 pm)Jimmi Sure enough I found this out the hard way by actually going to it and being left disappointed. Hence the posts in the Annoying thread.

Couldn't see any Solo SR's anywhere in Peterlee today.


Haha am not that daft lol I go Sunday or on a night haha are these new solo are they cummin engine or Mercedes

JMoss
jaimzm
31 Jul 2015, 2:46 pm #1,278

(31 Jul 2015, 2:33 pm)Jimmi Sure enough I found this out the hard way by actually going to it and being left disappointed. Hence the posts in the Annoying thread.

Couldn't see any Solo SR's anywhere in Peterlee today.


Haha am not that daft lol I go Sunday or on a night haha are these new solo are they cummin engine or Mercedes


JMoss

Dan

Site Administrator

18,116
31 Jul 2015, 2:50 pm #1,279
(31 Jul 2015, 2:46 pm)jaimzm Haha am not that daft lol I go Sunday or on a night haha are these new solo are they cummin engine or Mercedes

Mercedes Euro 5.
Dan
31 Jul 2015, 2:50 pm #1,279

(31 Jul 2015, 2:46 pm)jaimzm Haha am not that daft lol I go Sunday or on a night haha are these new solo are they cummin engine or Mercedes

Mercedes Euro 5.

31 Jul 2015, 2:52 pm #1,280
(31 Jul 2015, 2:50 pm)Dan Mercedes Euro 5.

Yuck I hate Mercedes haha Sad would be better with Cummins

JMoss
jaimzm
31 Jul 2015, 2:52 pm #1,280

(31 Jul 2015, 2:50 pm)Dan Mercedes Euro 5.

Yuck I hate Mercedes haha Sad would be better with Cummins


JMoss

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