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Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2017

Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2017

 
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29 Jan 2017, 8:08 pm #501
(29 Jan 2017, 8:00 pm)Michael Has all the Durham Diamond Streetlites entered service yet?

Yes, 5448 was the last to enter service yesterday.
S813 FVK
29 Jan 2017, 8:08 pm #501

(29 Jan 2017, 8:00 pm)Michael Has all the Durham Diamond Streetlites entered service yet?

Yes, 5448 was the last to enter service yesterday.

Michael



19,145
29 Jan 2017, 8:28 pm #502
(29 Jan 2017, 8:08 pm)S813 FVK Yes, 5448 was the last to enter service yesterday.

Cheers.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
29 Jan 2017, 8:28 pm #502

(29 Jan 2017, 8:08 pm)S813 FVK Yes, 5448 was the last to enter service yesterday.

Cheers.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

GX03



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29 Jan 2017, 9:39 pm #503
Re the 49 branding not including the 49A, does the ten branding include the 10A or 10B anywhere?.....just a thought.
GX03
29 Jan 2017, 9:39 pm #503

Re the 49 branding not including the 49A, does the ten branding include the 10A or 10B anywhere?.....just a thought.

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29 Jan 2017, 11:08 pm #504
(29 Jan 2017, 9:39 pm)GX03 Re the 49 branding not including the 49A, does the ten branding include the 10A or 10B anywhere?.....just a thought.
The exception is, when the TEN was launched it was just the 10 to Rockwood Hill/Crawcrook (?) If I remember correctly. They expanded/reconfigured it soon after, but this was when the 31/32s did the night journeys also.

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Jamie M
29 Jan 2017, 11:08 pm #504

(29 Jan 2017, 9:39 pm)GX03 Re the 49 branding not including the 49A, does the ten branding include the 10A or 10B anywhere?.....just a thought.
The exception is, when the TEN was launched it was just the 10 to Rockwood Hill/Crawcrook (?) If I remember correctly. They expanded/reconfigured it soon after, but this was when the 31/32s did the night journeys also.

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6,030
29 Jan 2017, 11:24 pm #505
(29 Jan 2017, 11:08 pm)Jamie M The exception is, when the TEN was launched it was just the 10 to Rockwood Hill (?) If I remember correctly. They expanded it soon after, but this was when the 31s did the night journeys also.

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Yes, that is correct. When the brand started, it was just the 10 to Rockwood Hill with a PVR of 10, each bus displaying a different reason to travel, every 10 minutes and a weekly ticket priced at £10.

The first expansion came in 2010 when the Arriva 602/604 were withdrawn - the 10 was diverted to Hexham to recover the route lost (the 11 to Low Prudhoe to replace the 604) and the 10A was introduced to pick up the route to Rockwood Hill, raising the PVR by 4 (maybe just 12 with a branded spare at Winlaton and one at Hexham?).

The 10B was introduced in 2013 in line with the B9s arriving and also coincided with the withdrawl of the 69A between Blackhall Mill and Metrocentre (Metrocentre - Wardley section is the 67) which saw the 11 re-routed to cover the Blaydon - Blackhall Mill section since the route from Greenside to Blackhall Mill is funded by Nexus.

I don't think that a brand change was (or is) required to incorporate the 10A/10B somewhere. Most vehicles promote the frequencies between places that the route services and the ones that do pretty much state the route of all 3 TEN services (although no service numbers are stated):

[Image: 8485630187_520fb3890a.jpg]Go North East: 6072 / NK62 FBA by mdw9121, on Flickr

10: Newcastle - Hexham
10A: Newcastle - Crawcrook then off to Rockwood Hill (and Blackhall Mill although that section did not exist at the time the B9s arrived)
10B: Newcastle - Prudhoe (Rail Interchange)
S813 FVK
29 Jan 2017, 11:24 pm #505

(29 Jan 2017, 11:08 pm)Jamie M The exception is, when the TEN was launched it was just the 10 to Rockwood Hill (?) If I remember correctly. They expanded it soon after, but this was when the 31s did the night journeys also.

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Yes, that is correct. When the brand started, it was just the 10 to Rockwood Hill with a PVR of 10, each bus displaying a different reason to travel, every 10 minutes and a weekly ticket priced at £10.

The first expansion came in 2010 when the Arriva 602/604 were withdrawn - the 10 was diverted to Hexham to recover the route lost (the 11 to Low Prudhoe to replace the 604) and the 10A was introduced to pick up the route to Rockwood Hill, raising the PVR by 4 (maybe just 12 with a branded spare at Winlaton and one at Hexham?).

The 10B was introduced in 2013 in line with the B9s arriving and also coincided with the withdrawl of the 69A between Blackhall Mill and Metrocentre (Metrocentre - Wardley section is the 67) which saw the 11 re-routed to cover the Blaydon - Blackhall Mill section since the route from Greenside to Blackhall Mill is funded by Nexus.

I don't think that a brand change was (or is) required to incorporate the 10A/10B somewhere. Most vehicles promote the frequencies between places that the route services and the ones that do pretty much state the route of all 3 TEN services (although no service numbers are stated):

[Image: 8485630187_520fb3890a.jpg]Go North East: 6072 / NK62 FBA by mdw9121, on Flickr

10: Newcastle - Hexham
10A: Newcastle - Crawcrook then off to Rockwood Hill (and Blackhall Mill although that section did not exist at the time the B9s arrived)
10B: Newcastle - Prudhoe (Rail Interchange)

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30 Jan 2017, 12:12 am #506
(29 Jan 2017, 8:34 am)GuyParkRoyal I agree that a regular turn up and go service seems to be one of the best selling points for a bus route.
My observations in Chester le Street see people letting the Arriva X12 go past them to board a GNE 21, X21 or X25. This is despite a cheaper fare on Arriva at £2.90 verses £3.35 on GNE. Arriva have an almost 100% WiFi offering whereas GNE send out spare vehicles with no WiFi on an almost daily basis.
So while branding, WiFi and price have their benefits I would say that a frequent service is the winner in attracting customers.
I am aware that some people will take the GNE bus due to onward connctions but I have based my assumption purely on observations of customers purchasing a single or return to Gateshead or Newcastle.

Quite. If I'm going to Newcastle from home, Arriva day tickets could do it - £12.80 for me and one kid. it pays to get me an explorer and one of the boys a £3.40 return to Durham from home, though, because it;s only a pound each way on a GNE service, between Durham and Newcastle. £9.70 + £3.40 + £2 = £15.10 plus, also, the lack of need to hang around ESBS a minute longer than needed, even if I miss the Castles Express, which snuggles up pretty well with the Arriva 22, in both directions, when the 22 runs on time.
BusLoverMum
30 Jan 2017, 12:12 am #506

(29 Jan 2017, 8:34 am)GuyParkRoyal I agree that a regular turn up and go service seems to be one of the best selling points for a bus route.
My observations in Chester le Street see people letting the Arriva X12 go past them to board a GNE 21, X21 or X25. This is despite a cheaper fare on Arriva at £2.90 verses £3.35 on GNE. Arriva have an almost 100% WiFi offering whereas GNE send out spare vehicles with no WiFi on an almost daily basis.
So while branding, WiFi and price have their benefits I would say that a frequent service is the winner in attracting customers.
I am aware that some people will take the GNE bus due to onward connctions but I have based my assumption purely on observations of customers purchasing a single or return to Gateshead or Newcastle.

Quite. If I'm going to Newcastle from home, Arriva day tickets could do it - £12.80 for me and one kid. it pays to get me an explorer and one of the boys a £3.40 return to Durham from home, though, because it;s only a pound each way on a GNE service, between Durham and Newcastle. £9.70 + £3.40 + £2 = £15.10 plus, also, the lack of need to hang around ESBS a minute longer than needed, even if I miss the Castles Express, which snuggles up pretty well with the Arriva 22, in both directions, when the 22 runs on time.

Ambassador



1,820
30 Jan 2017, 8:52 am #507
The 554 will be serving Quorum Business Park again from 6th February

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
30 Jan 2017, 8:52 am #507

The 554 will be serving Quorum Business Park again from 6th February


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Jamie M

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30 Jan 2017, 2:14 pm #508
(28 Jan 2017, 3:25 pm)EL1TE 5455 has entered service.......... on the X66...
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/140920997@...726871124/
Now on the correct allocation of 49s (didn't see yesterday)
[Image: 32486178201_456732d85e_k.jpg](Go North East) NK66EWD / 5455 - Wright Streetlite by Jamie MP, on Flickr

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Jamie M
30 Jan 2017, 2:14 pm #508

(28 Jan 2017, 3:25 pm)EL1TE 5455 has entered service.......... on the X66...
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/140920997@...726871124/
Now on the correct allocation of 49s (didn't see yesterday)
[Image: 32486178201_456732d85e_k.jpg](Go North East) NK66EWD / 5455 - Wright Streetlite by Jamie MP, on Flickr

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Michael



19,145
30 Jan 2017, 5:59 pm #509
Driver Recruitment Day in Sunderland - Sunday 26 February

http://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/d...ary-216795

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
30 Jan 2017, 5:59 pm #509

Driver Recruitment Day in Sunderland - Sunday 26 February

http://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/d...ary-216795


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

30 Jan 2017, 7:18 pm #510
(30 Jan 2017, 2:14 pm)Jamie M Now on the correct allocation of 49s (didn't see yesterday)
(Go North East) NK66EWD / 5455 - Wright Streetlite by Jamie MP, on Flickr

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I am really liking this branding, as has been mentioned on here recently, I also think it would be good for those services which need some kind of branding but maybe not Flagship route branding, to use this type. Something such as the No: 9 would suit this style.

Any ideas as to when the next ones are due to arrive ready for the 49's.

How long does it take to refurbish a bus? Such as the EX: Durham Diamonds Citaros which have been sent away for refurb and to that type of standard.

I think the TynedaleXpress services X84/X85 - could do with a refurb either by receiving newer buses fully refurb'd or having the current Scanias refurb'd. Now that Arriva have introduced the Cross Pennine with refurbed buses, GNE need to offer a similar standard.
Edited 30 Jan 2017, 7:27 pm by thetravelman.
thetravelman
30 Jan 2017, 7:18 pm #510

(30 Jan 2017, 2:14 pm)Jamie M Now on the correct allocation of 49s (didn't see yesterday)
(Go North East) NK66EWD / 5455 - Wright Streetlite by Jamie MP, on Flickr

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I am really liking this branding, as has been mentioned on here recently, I also think it would be good for those services which need some kind of branding but maybe not Flagship route branding, to use this type. Something such as the No: 9 would suit this style.

Any ideas as to when the next ones are due to arrive ready for the 49's.

How long does it take to refurbish a bus? Such as the EX: Durham Diamonds Citaros which have been sent away for refurb and to that type of standard.

I think the TynedaleXpress services X84/X85 - could do with a refurb either by receiving newer buses fully refurb'd or having the current Scanias refurb'd. Now that Arriva have introduced the Cross Pennine with refurbed buses, GNE need to offer a similar standard.

Michael



19,145
30 Jan 2017, 7:42 pm #511
(30 Jan 2017, 7:18 pm)thetravelman I am really liking this branding, as has been mentioned on here recently, I also think it would be good for those services which need some kind of branding but maybe not Flagship route branding, to use this type. Something such as the No: 9 would suit this style.

Any ideas as to when the next ones are due to arrive ready for the 49's.

How long does it take to refurbish a bus? Such as the EX: Durham Diamonds Citaros which have been sent away for refurb and to that type of standard.

I think the TynedaleXpress services X84/X85 - could do with a refurb either by receiving newer buses fully refurb'd or having the current Scanias refurb'd. Now that Arriva have introduced the Cross Pennine with refurbed buses, GNE need to offer a similar standard.

Around 5 were spotted at Heysham docks yesterday, so hopefully those should arrive in the new few days.

I'm not sure if the Scania's will get a refurbish now, it looks like all of the Citaro's are heading in to refurbishment, wouldn't be surprised if the Omnicities go that way too - although, this is not confirmed, just speculation.
Edited 30 Jan 2017, 7:47 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
30 Jan 2017, 7:42 pm #511

(30 Jan 2017, 7:18 pm)thetravelman I am really liking this branding, as has been mentioned on here recently, I also think it would be good for those services which need some kind of branding but maybe not Flagship route branding, to use this type. Something such as the No: 9 would suit this style.

Any ideas as to when the next ones are due to arrive ready for the 49's.

How long does it take to refurbish a bus? Such as the EX: Durham Diamonds Citaros which have been sent away for refurb and to that type of standard.

I think the TynedaleXpress services X84/X85 - could do with a refurb either by receiving newer buses fully refurb'd or having the current Scanias refurb'd. Now that Arriva have introduced the Cross Pennine with refurbed buses, GNE need to offer a similar standard.

Around 5 were spotted at Heysham docks yesterday, so hopefully those should arrive in the new few days.

I'm not sure if the Scania's will get a refurbish now, it looks like all of the Citaro's are heading in to refurbishment, wouldn't be surprised if the Omnicities go that way too - although, this is not confirmed, just speculation.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Jamie M

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31 Jan 2017, 3:06 pm #512
6125 looks to be immobilised at Gateshead.

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Jamie M
31 Jan 2017, 3:06 pm #512

6125 looks to be immobilised at Gateshead.

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Jamie M

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31 Jan 2017, 9:59 pm #513
(31 Jan 2017, 9:58 pm)Jamie M 6128 is broke'd at whickham. As such the 2100 6 to stanley journey was lost milage.

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Jamie M
31 Jan 2017, 9:59 pm #513

(31 Jan 2017, 9:58 pm)Jamie M 6128 is broke'd at whickham. As such the 2100 6 to stanley journey was lost milage.

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31 Jan 2017, 10:53 pm #514
(31 Jan 2017, 9:59 pm)Jamie M Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

Can someone explain this 'lost mileage' in plain English please.
The bus broke down in Whickham which must have been a different service. The 2100 was lost mileage? Do you mean it didnt run at all or it ran in part. HELP
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31 Jan 2017, 10:53 pm #514

(31 Jan 2017, 9:59 pm)Jamie M Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

Can someone explain this 'lost mileage' in plain English please.
The bus broke down in Whickham which must have been a different service. The 2100 was lost mileage? Do you mean it didnt run at all or it ran in part. HELP

Jamie M

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31 Jan 2017, 11:03 pm #515
(31 Jan 2017, 10:53 pm)ifm001 Can someone explain this 'lost mileage' in plain English please.
The bus broke down in Whickham which must have been a different service. The 2100 was lost mileage? Do you mean it didnt run at all or it ran in part. HELP
Lost milage is where part of (or none of) a trip is not completed either due to a lack of a bus to run the trip, or a bus breaking down in a position where a decision is made to transfer passengers to the bus behind.

You don't see lost milage often on contracts or last buses. There has been an occasion were a versa was thrown onto the last 6 from metrocentre because the intended bus was taken off due to a passenger incident, so riverside provided a bus to complete the journey.

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Jamie M
31 Jan 2017, 11:03 pm #515

(31 Jan 2017, 10:53 pm)ifm001 Can someone explain this 'lost mileage' in plain English please.
The bus broke down in Whickham which must have been a different service. The 2100 was lost mileage? Do you mean it didnt run at all or it ran in part. HELP
Lost milage is where part of (or none of) a trip is not completed either due to a lack of a bus to run the trip, or a bus breaking down in a position where a decision is made to transfer passengers to the bus behind.

You don't see lost milage often on contracts or last buses. There has been an occasion were a versa was thrown onto the last 6 from metrocentre because the intended bus was taken off due to a passenger incident, so riverside provided a bus to complete the journey.

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31 Jan 2017, 11:10 pm #516
(31 Jan 2017, 10:53 pm)ifm001 Can someone explain this 'lost mileage' in plain English please.
The bus broke down in Whickham which must have been a different service. The 2100 was lost mileage? Do you mean it didnt run at all or it ran in part. HELP

"Lost mileage" is basically the amount of service lost due to the breakdown. It's a really technical term that should really be avoided online!

Edit: Jamie has beaten me to it.
Edited 31 Jan 2017, 11:11 pm by omnicity4659.
omnicity4659
31 Jan 2017, 11:10 pm #516

(31 Jan 2017, 10:53 pm)ifm001 Can someone explain this 'lost mileage' in plain English please.
The bus broke down in Whickham which must have been a different service. The 2100 was lost mileage? Do you mean it didnt run at all or it ran in part. HELP

"Lost mileage" is basically the amount of service lost due to the breakdown. It's a really technical term that should really be avoided online!

Edit: Jamie has beaten me to it.

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