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Andreos1



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28 Aug 2017, 12:51 pm #401
(27 Aug 2017, 1:43 pm)Tom Searching flickr most of them have been on the Prince Bishops at some point?

A big chunk of Solars across the fleet were done in or around Sept 14.
https://cbwmagazine.com/go-north-east-up...echnology/
These included the purple Solars.

Anything prior to then were upgrades to Euro 3 (if I remember correctly).
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
28 Aug 2017, 12:51 pm #401

(27 Aug 2017, 1:43 pm)Tom Searching flickr most of them have been on the Prince Bishops at some point?

A big chunk of Solars across the fleet were done in or around Sept 14.
https://cbwmagazine.com/go-north-east-up...echnology/
These included the purple Solars.

Anything prior to then were upgrades to Euro 3 (if I remember correctly).

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Dan

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28 Aug 2017, 1:45 pm #402
(28 Aug 2017, 12:51 pm)Andreos1 A big chunk of Solars across the fleet were done in or around Sept 14.
https://cbwmagazine.com/go-north-east-up...echnology/
These included the purple Solars.

Anything prior to then were upgrades to Euro 3 (if I remember correctly).

Yes, the upgrade was from Euro 3 to Euro 5. Examples fitted were branded for the Prince Bishops, Fast Cats, The Highwayman and The Loop.

The buses upgraded on The Highwayman and The Loop have remained on the routes which they were allocated to when they first received these modifications, but the examples upgraded on the Prince Bishops and Fast Cats are now scattered around the patch. In my opinion it is nothing but a coincidence, if the buses upgraded have remained within an operating area which falls under the original local authority.

You touched upon this in a discussion with eezypeazy earlier this year (see discussion here) - I think eezypeazy probably hit the nail on the head when he suggested that the Local Authority probably wouldn't be too concerned, if the routes which were originally upgraded would receive more environmentally-friendly buses with less emissions (with no further contribution from them required - in the example of the Prince Bishops, Go North East invested £3.7m in these buses off their own back).

As it's an interest of yours, as you said in your OP, I will also give my view.

I doubt there will be a huge increase in the sale value of the buses involved - the investment by Go North East in this project (barring any funding received from Local Authorities) meant that the book value on these buses increased, and it will take a longer time for these to depreciate.

So really, it would seem the company has two options:
  • Dispose of the Scania L94s upgraded in line with their age, when cascades become available, and potentially not make as great a profit on selling the bus (if the NBV is not £0, due to the book value increasing when the modifications were made)
  • These buses remain in the fleet for a longer period of time to allow the asset to fully depreciate, and potentially have trouble selling the bus on to another operator at the higher price you would expect, due to the fact the bus is so old.
Dan
28 Aug 2017, 1:45 pm #402

(28 Aug 2017, 12:51 pm)Andreos1 A big chunk of Solars across the fleet were done in or around Sept 14.
https://cbwmagazine.com/go-north-east-up...echnology/
These included the purple Solars.

Anything prior to then were upgrades to Euro 3 (if I remember correctly).

Yes, the upgrade was from Euro 3 to Euro 5. Examples fitted were branded for the Prince Bishops, Fast Cats, The Highwayman and The Loop.

The buses upgraded on The Highwayman and The Loop have remained on the routes which they were allocated to when they first received these modifications, but the examples upgraded on the Prince Bishops and Fast Cats are now scattered around the patch. In my opinion it is nothing but a coincidence, if the buses upgraded have remained within an operating area which falls under the original local authority.

You touched upon this in a discussion with eezypeazy earlier this year (see discussion here) - I think eezypeazy probably hit the nail on the head when he suggested that the Local Authority probably wouldn't be too concerned, if the routes which were originally upgraded would receive more environmentally-friendly buses with less emissions (with no further contribution from them required - in the example of the Prince Bishops, Go North East invested £3.7m in these buses off their own back).

As it's an interest of yours, as you said in your OP, I will also give my view.

I doubt there will be a huge increase in the sale value of the buses involved - the investment by Go North East in this project (barring any funding received from Local Authorities) meant that the book value on these buses increased, and it will take a longer time for these to depreciate.

So really, it would seem the company has two options:
  • Dispose of the Scania L94s upgraded in line with their age, when cascades become available, and potentially not make as great a profit on selling the bus (if the NBV is not £0, due to the book value increasing when the modifications were made)
  • These buses remain in the fleet for a longer period of time to allow the asset to fully depreciate, and potentially have trouble selling the bus on to another operator at the higher price you would expect, due to the fact the bus is so old.

S830OFT



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28 Aug 2017, 2:18 pm #403
One of the "49" Streetlites looks to have been involved in a crash in the Teams.


S830OFT
28 Aug 2017, 2:18 pm #403

One of the "49" Streetlites looks to have been involved in a crash in the Teams.


BusLoverMum



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28 Aug 2017, 3:40 pm #404
(27 Aug 2017, 5:13 pm)Ambassador Even with their age and shabby chic interior, still prefer a B7 on the Angel to an Omnidekka.

Been nice to see 3888 on her old stomping ground...thankfully not in pink!

Definitely don't disagree with you there. They're pants on routes where a bit of welly is needed, but more comfortable than the Omnidekka's when they have no need to get a move on.
BusLoverMum
28 Aug 2017, 3:40 pm #404

(27 Aug 2017, 5:13 pm)Ambassador Even with their age and shabby chic interior, still prefer a B7 on the Angel to an Omnidekka.

Been nice to see 3888 on her old stomping ground...thankfully not in pink!

Definitely don't disagree with you there. They're pants on routes where a bit of welly is needed, but more comfortable than the Omnidekka's when they have no need to get a move on.

Andreos1



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28 Aug 2017, 5:36 pm #405
(28 Aug 2017, 2:18 pm)S830OFT One of the "49" Streetlites looks to have been involved in a crash in the Teams.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...n-13541907


There's been an incident where someone had got off a bus, but the bus wasnt directly involved.
Not sure if its the same incident.
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
28 Aug 2017, 5:36 pm #405

(28 Aug 2017, 2:18 pm)S830OFT One of the "49" Streetlites looks to have been involved in a crash in the Teams.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...n-13541907


There's been an incident where someone had got off a bus, but the bus wasnt directly involved.
Not sure if its the same incident.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Dans_bus_photos



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28 Aug 2017, 6:56 pm #406
Is there a particular reason that 681/89/90 haven't been used on the Nexus routes on a sunday for the past few weeks?
Dans_bus_photos
28 Aug 2017, 6:56 pm #406

Is there a particular reason that 681/89/90 haven't been used on the Nexus routes on a sunday for the past few weeks?

deanmachine



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28 Aug 2017, 7:23 pm #407
(28 Aug 2017, 6:56 pm)Dans_bus_photos Is there a particular reason that 681/89/90 haven't been used on the Nexus routes on a sunday for the past few weeks?

I don't think they ever are used on a Sunday. Always 628 and 697 out on the 38C and 8, respectively.
deanmachine
28 Aug 2017, 7:23 pm #407

(28 Aug 2017, 6:56 pm)Dans_bus_photos Is there a particular reason that 681/89/90 haven't been used on the Nexus routes on a sunday for the past few weeks?

I don't think they ever are used on a Sunday. Always 628 and 697 out on the 38C and 8, respectively.

S830OFT



1,395
28 Aug 2017, 7:25 pm #408
(28 Aug 2017, 6:56 pm)Dans_bus_photos Is there a particular reason that 681/89/90 haven't been used on the Nexus routes on a sunday for the past few weeks?

I believe one of them is allocated to the sunday 238.


S830OFT
28 Aug 2017, 7:25 pm #408

(28 Aug 2017, 6:56 pm)Dans_bus_photos Is there a particular reason that 681/89/90 haven't been used on the Nexus routes on a sunday for the past few weeks?

I believe one of them is allocated to the sunday 238.


deanmachine



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28 Aug 2017, 7:33 pm #409
(28 Aug 2017, 7:25 pm)S830OFT I believe one of them is allocated to the sunday 238.

That's normally one of the usual 238 Solos too, same with the Sunday 237.
deanmachine
28 Aug 2017, 7:33 pm #409

(28 Aug 2017, 7:25 pm)S830OFT I believe one of them is allocated to the sunday 238.

That's normally one of the usual 238 Solos too, same with the Sunday 237.

Ben C



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28 Aug 2017, 10:11 pm #410
(28 Aug 2017, 5:36 pm)Andreos1 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...n-13541907


There's been an incident where someone had got off a bus, but the bus wasnt directly involved.
Not sure if its the same incident.

49 doesn't operate along there.
Ben C
28 Aug 2017, 10:11 pm #410

(28 Aug 2017, 5:36 pm)Andreos1 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...n-13541907


There's been an incident where someone had got off a bus, but the bus wasnt directly involved.
Not sure if its the same incident.

49 doesn't operate along there.

Citaro5326



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28 Aug 2017, 10:22 pm #411
(28 Aug 2017, 7:25 pm)S830OFT I believe one of them is allocated to the sunday 238.

Black cats streetlites are now for 135 and 136 and 9s on sundays and evenings
Citaro5326
28 Aug 2017, 10:22 pm #411

(28 Aug 2017, 7:25 pm)S830OFT I believe one of them is allocated to the sunday 238.

Black cats streetlites are now for 135 and 136 and 9s on sundays and evenings

S830OFT



1,395
29 Aug 2017, 12:00 am #412
(28 Aug 2017, 10:22 pm)Citaro5326 Black cats streetlites are now for 135 and 136 and 9s on sundays and evenings

Thanks for the extra info.


S830OFT
29 Aug 2017, 12:00 am #412

(28 Aug 2017, 10:22 pm)Citaro5326 Black cats streetlites are now for 135 and 136 and 9s on sundays and evenings

Thanks for the extra info.


Andreos1



14,207
29 Aug 2017, 6:24 am #413
(28 Aug 2017, 10:11 pm)Ben C 49 doesn't operate along there.

Agreed, but there was nowt in the original post to say it was operating a 49 at the time.
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
29 Aug 2017, 6:24 am #413

(28 Aug 2017, 10:11 pm)Ben C 49 doesn't operate along there.

Agreed, but there was nowt in the original post to say it was operating a 49 at the time.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Dan

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29 Aug 2017, 8:55 am #414
(28 Aug 2017, 12:34 pm)Michael Looks like all of the Crusader Citaro's will be in service tomorrow, finishing off another brand with the refurbished Citaro's.

Next up - 5298- 5304 for the X84/X85 and Tynedale Links along with 5328-5330 (although 5330 has yet to go)

5318 and 5319 both VOR for MOT, while 5318 also has additional defects to clear. Will be this Friday (at the earliest) before both enter service.
Dan
29 Aug 2017, 8:55 am #414

(28 Aug 2017, 12:34 pm)Michael Looks like all of the Crusader Citaro's will be in service tomorrow, finishing off another brand with the refurbished Citaro's.

Next up - 5298- 5304 for the X84/X85 and Tynedale Links along with 5328-5330 (although 5330 has yet to go)

5318 and 5319 both VOR for MOT, while 5318 also has additional defects to clear. Will be this Friday (at the earliest) before both enter service.

Michael



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29 Aug 2017, 7:01 pm #415
When is 6085 getting branded for the N56?
(29 Aug 2017, 8:55 am)Dan 5318 and 5319 both VOR for MOT, while 5318 also has additional defects to clear. Will be this Friday (at the earliest) before both enter service.

Thanks for the update Dan, been so busy at work, haven't had a chance to reply!
Edited 29 Aug 2017, 7:10 pm by Michael.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
29 Aug 2017, 7:01 pm #415

When is 6085 getting branded for the N56?

(29 Aug 2017, 8:55 am)Dan 5318 and 5319 both VOR for MOT, while 5318 also has additional defects to clear. Will be this Friday (at the earliest) before both enter service.

Thanks for the update Dan, been so busy at work, haven't had a chance to reply!

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

V514DFT



2,240
30 Aug 2017, 9:10 am #416
Anyone noticed the timetables in the bus stops for the 40 and 41 are wrong
V514DFT
30 Aug 2017, 9:10 am #416

Anyone noticed the timetables in the bus stops for the 40 and 41 are wrong

Citaro5326



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30 Aug 2017, 4:22 pm #417
5287 is at saltmeadows has major issue ( Engine and Axle problems )
8323 sounds like a dyson when it went past me today
Citaro5326
30 Aug 2017, 4:22 pm #417

5287 is at saltmeadows has major issue ( Engine and Axle problems )
8323 sounds like a dyson when it went past me today

Malarkey



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30 Aug 2017, 5:23 pm #418
643 at Saltmeadows following repaint - https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalark...ed-public/

Which NatEx Levante was being prepped for repaint, got a photo of it but ID?
Malarkey
30 Aug 2017, 5:23 pm #418

643 at Saltmeadows following repaint - https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalark...ed-public/

Which NatEx Levante was being prepped for repaint, got a photo of it but ID?

Jordan2104



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30 Aug 2017, 7:04 pm #419
4979 has been repainted at the back
Jordan2104
30 Aug 2017, 7:04 pm #419

4979 has been repainted at the back

Citaro5326



235
30 Aug 2017, 9:40 pm #420
Deptford is loosing 3978-3982 , it is said that all vykings will be gone this year.
Citaro5326
30 Aug 2017, 9:40 pm #420

Deptford is loosing 3978-3982 , it is said that all vykings will be gone this year.

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