Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(21 Sep 2017, 2:55 pm)omnicity4659 I just find it amusing that they're still running non-profit making extensions/services yet cut the journeys that make profit.
35s to Woodhorn, 64s to High Pittington, 52s to Ashington/Newbiggin etc...
(21 Sep 2017, 2:55 pm)omnicity4659 I just find it amusing that they're still running non-profit making extensions/services yet cut the journeys that make profit.
35s to Woodhorn, 64s to High Pittington, 52s to Ashington/Newbiggin etc...
end of the day...if a service is making a profit it won't be withdrawn.
Odd observations are fine but there's obviously not a commercially viable level of demand for a service at 23.40.
Much like the 21 used to run 24/7 and GNE culled it to weekend night buses.
commercial profit driven businesses do not axe profitable routes. Simple.
(21 Sep 2017, 10:36 pm)Ambassador end of the day...if a service is making a profit it won't be withdrawn.
Odd observations are fine but there's obviously not a commercially viable level of demand for a service at 23.40.
Much like the 21 used to run 24/7 and GNE culled it to weekend night buses.
commercial profit driven businesses do not axe profitable routes. Simple.
(21 Sep 2017, 10:36 pm)Ambassador end of the day...if a service is making a profit it won't be withdrawn.
Odd observations are fine but there's obviously not a commercially viable level of demand for a service at 23.40.
Much like the 21 used to run 24/7 and GNE culled it to weekend night buses.
commercial profit driven businesses do not axe profitable routes. Simple.
(21 Sep 2017, 10:36 pm)Ambassador end of the day...if a service is making a profit it won't be withdrawn.
Odd observations are fine but there's obviously not a commercially viable level of demand for a service at 23.40.
Much like the 21 used to run 24/7 and GNE culled it to weekend night buses.
commercial profit driven businesses do not axe profitable routes. Simple.
(21 Sep 2017, 10:36 pm)Ambassador end of the day...if a service is making a profit it won't be withdrawn.
Odd observations are fine but there's obviously not a commercially viable level of demand for a service at 23.40.
Much like the 21 used to run 24/7 and GNE culled it to weekend night buses.
commercial profit driven businesses do not axe profitable routes. Simple.
(22 Sep 2017, 3:34 pm)L469 YVK But for many many years, the 308 has always had a bus after 11.30pm and GNE before 2008 would (I think) run the last one between Newcastle and Whitley Bay. From what I can see on the changes too looking at the outbound journey, the 10.40pm journey is being withdrawn on Sunday nights leaving an hourly service after 10pm. Now that is a sensible decision as not many people use the bus on a Sunday night even if it did make money. But Arriva withdrawing the 11.40pm service even on a Fri/Sat night is wrong.
(22 Sep 2017, 3:34 pm)L469 YVK But for many many years, the 308 has always had a bus after 11.30pm and GNE before 2008 would (I think) run the last one between Newcastle and Whitley Bay. From what I can see on the changes too looking at the outbound journey, the 10.40pm journey is being withdrawn on Sunday nights leaving an hourly service after 10pm. Now that is a sensible decision as not many people use the bus on a Sunday night even if it did make money. But Arriva withdrawing the 11.40pm service even on a Fri/Sat night is wrong.
(22 Sep 2017, 4:09 pm)Andreos1 Are they saving more money by not operating it (and the service TO Newcastle) and closing the depot for the night, than they are making, running it and keeping the depot open for that half hour or so?
(22 Sep 2017, 4:09 pm)Andreos1 Are they saving more money by not operating it (and the service TO Newcastle) and closing the depot for the night, than they are making, running it and keeping the depot open for that half hour or so?
(22 Sep 2017, 4:09 pm)Andreos1 Are they saving more money by not operating it (and the service TO Newcastle) and closing the depot for the night, than they are making, running it and keeping the depot open for that half hour or so?
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(22 Sep 2017, 4:09 pm)Andreos1 Are they saving more money by not operating it (and the service TO Newcastle) and closing the depot for the night, than they are making, running it and keeping the depot open for that half hour or so?
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UPDATE: Have messaged Arriva about this and appears that the last 306 will instead be moved from 11.25pm to 11.40pm 7x days per week. Also, the 308 at 10.40pm from Newcastle (and 9.39pm from Blyth) will be withdrawn on Sundays too. Have checked this out on Traveline.
Appears it must be cheaper to keep the Jesmond depot open later than Blyth as buses from routes such as the 45/306/53 don't get back into the depot until late on anyways plus the new 11.40pm 306 will practially cover the 308 route betwen Newcastle and Billy Mill as well as potentially gaining an edge over GNE's last departure time of 11.15pm from Haymarket.
PB0002032/551 Registered (Short notice)
ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD
Route: St James to Longbenton
Service number: 900 (900)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 14 Oct 2017
PB0002717/341 Registered (Short notice)
ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD
Route: Bishop Auckland to Toft Hill
Service number: 86 (86)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 29 Oct 2017
(09 Oct 2017, 7:04 pm)Michael PB0002032/551 Registered (Short notice)
ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD
Route: St James to Longbenton
Service number: 900 (900)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 14 Oct 2017
PB0002717/341 Registered (Short notice)
ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD
Route: Bishop Auckland to Toft Hill
Service number: 86 (86)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 29 Oct 2017
(09 Oct 2017, 7:04 pm)Michael PB0002032/551 Registered (Short notice)
ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD
Route: St James to Longbenton
Service number: 900 (900)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 14 Oct 2017
PB0002717/341 Registered (Short notice)
ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD
Route: Bishop Auckland to Toft Hill
Service number: 86 (86)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 29 Oct 2017
(09 Oct 2017, 7:21 pm)cbma06 So Arriva taking on the 86 commercially?
(09 Oct 2017, 7:21 pm)cbma06 So Arriva taking on the 86 commercially?
(09 Oct 2017, 7:51 pm)Jimmi As far as I am aware, it's still going to be Go North East operating the evening supported runs, so likely to be Arriva removing these journeys from their timetable.
Changes to stopping places in Ashington Town Centre, from Monday 16th October, affecting services 1, X20, X21, X22, 35, 52, 57.
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showth...#pid208089
Yarm Fair next weekend - divisions for 7/7a and 17/X17
http://www.connectteesvalley.com/data/tr...anges).pdf
Understand this year's loans to cover the increased minibus requirements (considering last year the depot had 1 extra Solo) should be at least 1 of Darlington's 'Frequenta' Solos
I'm loving the way Arriva expect us to read the new timetables sideways
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/north-east/u...ober-2017/
(17 Oct 2017, 4:24 pm)tcts24 I'm loving the way Arriva expect us to read the new timetables sideways
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/north-east/u...ober-2017/
(17 Oct 2017, 4:24 pm)tcts24 I'm loving the way Arriva expect us to read the new timetables sideways
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/north-east/u...ober-2017/
(17 Oct 2017, 4:24 pm)tcts24 I'm loving the way Arriva expect us to read the new timetables sideways
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/north-east/u...ober-2017/
(17 Oct 2017, 4:24 pm)tcts24 I'm loving the way Arriva expect us to read the new timetables sideways
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/north-east/u...ober-2017/
(17 Oct 2017, 6:25 pm)cbma06 On Arriva site it states that:
We are extending our Durham District fares zone to include Ferryhill, Chilton, Rushyford, Redworth, Sedgefield, Thornley, Wheatley Hill, Trimdon Village, Deaf Hill, Shadforth and Ludworth. This means big savings for customers in these places travelling wholly within the Durham District zone. For example, the price of a one-day ticket from Ferryhill to Durham will reduce from £7 to £6.50, while the cost of a weekly ticket will come down from £25 to £18.20.
At the same time, we are expanding our Peterlee zone to cover Haswell (Village and Plough), while the Bishop Auckland zone will extend to Redworth.
It's a shame that Wheatley hill is not part of the east Durham network .
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(17 Oct 2017, 6:25 pm)cbma06 On Arriva site it states that:
We are extending our Durham District fares zone to include Ferryhill, Chilton, Rushyford, Redworth, Sedgefield, Thornley, Wheatley Hill, Trimdon Village, Deaf Hill, Shadforth and Ludworth. This means big savings for customers in these places travelling wholly within the Durham District zone. For example, the price of a one-day ticket from Ferryhill to Durham will reduce from £7 to £6.50, while the cost of a weekly ticket will come down from £25 to £18.20.
At the same time, we are expanding our Peterlee zone to cover Haswell (Village and Plough), while the Bishop Auckland zone will extend to Redworth.
It's a shame that Wheatley hill is not part of the east Durham network .
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