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BusLoverMum



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17 Oct 2017, 8:52 pm #21
(17 Oct 2017, 11:58 am)Andreos1 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...t-13771741

Shelters to disappear?

Love the emotive language about shivering. While some bus shelters are halfway effective and keeping you dry, I've never known one keep me warm!

We've got some all metal shelters round here. Ugly as hell but seem to have resisted the best efforts of the local ne'er do wells to deconstruct them.
BusLoverMum
17 Oct 2017, 8:52 pm #21

(17 Oct 2017, 11:58 am)Andreos1 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...t-13771741

Shelters to disappear?

Love the emotive language about shivering. While some bus shelters are halfway effective and keeping you dry, I've never known one keep me warm!

We've got some all metal shelters round here. Ugly as hell but seem to have resisted the best efforts of the local ne'er do wells to deconstruct them.

markydh



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17 Nov 2017, 11:13 am #22
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/business/...lick_Other

The plans for Newcastle City Centre have moved forward. The £3 million investment will see Blackett Street, the north end of Pilgrim Street and New Bridge Street closed to buses and taxis in the interim with hopes to fully pedestrianise in the future.
markydh
17 Nov 2017, 11:13 am #22

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/business/...lick_Other

The plans for Newcastle City Centre have moved forward. The £3 million investment will see Blackett Street, the north end of Pilgrim Street and New Bridge Street closed to buses and taxis in the interim with hopes to fully pedestrianise in the future.

Andreos1



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08 Jan 2018, 4:53 pm #24
(17 Nov 2017, 11:13 am)markydh http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/business/...lick_Other

The plans for Newcastle City Centre have moved forward. The £3 million investment will see Blackett Street, the north end of Pilgrim Street and New Bridge Street closed to buses and taxis in the interim with hopes to fully pedestrianise in the future.

http://www.bususers.org/news-events/even...newcastle/

Bus Users UK to travel around Newcastle later this week, to gather thoughts on Blackett St plans

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
08 Jan 2018, 4:53 pm #24

(17 Nov 2017, 11:13 am)markydh http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/business/...lick_Other

The plans for Newcastle City Centre have moved forward. The £3 million investment will see Blackett Street, the north end of Pilgrim Street and New Bridge Street closed to buses and taxis in the interim with hopes to fully pedestrianise in the future.

http://www.bususers.org/news-events/even...newcastle/

Bus Users UK to travel around Newcastle later this week, to gather thoughts on Blackett St plans


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

citaro5284



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08 Jan 2018, 5:56 pm #25
(08 Jan 2018, 4:53 pm)Andreos1 http://www.bususers.org/news-events/even...newcastle/

Bus Users UK to travel around Newcastle later this week, to gather thoughts on Blackett St plans

And bususers.org said the move could have a catastrophic impact on passengers, local businesses and residents in the area.

http://www.bususers.org/news-events/news...ity-centre
citaro5284
08 Jan 2018, 5:56 pm #25

(08 Jan 2018, 4:53 pm)Andreos1 http://www.bususers.org/news-events/even...newcastle/

Bus Users UK to travel around Newcastle later this week, to gather thoughts on Blackett St plans

And bususers.org said the move could have a catastrophic impact on passengers, local businesses and residents in the area.

http://www.bususers.org/news-events/news...ity-centre

08 Jan 2018, 7:11 pm #26
And where would the buses go to then as the bus stations are busy enough as it is at times


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TEN 6083
08 Jan 2018, 7:11 pm #26

And where would the buses go to then as the bus stations are busy enough as it is at times


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988
08 Jan 2018, 7:21 pm #27
(08 Jan 2018, 7:11 pm)TEN 6083 And where would the buses go to then as the bus stations are busy enough as it is at times


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Rebuild or reuse Worswick Street bus station. Would ease a lot of pressure.
LVK 404L
08 Jan 2018, 7:21 pm #27

(08 Jan 2018, 7:11 pm)TEN 6083 And where would the buses go to then as the bus stations are busy enough as it is at times


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Rebuild or reuse Worswick Street bus station. Would ease a lot of pressure.

08 Jan 2018, 9:22 pm #28
(08 Jan 2018, 7:21 pm)ifm001 Rebuild or reuse Worswick Street bus station. Would ease a lot of pressure.

Who owns worswick bus station,is it still GNE, and what about nexus buying the site and car park behind it and build a new bus station,which would help take pressure off roads in newcastle
Northern4555
08 Jan 2018, 9:22 pm #28

(08 Jan 2018, 7:21 pm)ifm001 Rebuild or reuse Worswick Street bus station. Would ease a lot of pressure.

Who owns worswick bus station,is it still GNE, and what about nexus buying the site and car park behind it and build a new bus station,which would help take pressure off roads in newcastle

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988
08 Jan 2018, 9:52 pm #29
(08 Jan 2018, 9:22 pm)Northern4555 Who owns worswick bus station,is it still GNE, and what about nexus buying the site and car park behind it and build a new bus station,which would help take pressure off roads in newcastle

Think its council owned now, but it just needs a bit of TLC and could easily take all the Tyne Bridge/High Level services from GNE ANE and SNE
LVK 404L
08 Jan 2018, 9:52 pm #29

(08 Jan 2018, 9:22 pm)Northern4555 Who owns worswick bus station,is it still GNE, and what about nexus buying the site and car park behind it and build a new bus station,which would help take pressure off roads in newcastle

Think its council owned now, but it just needs a bit of TLC and could easily take all the Tyne Bridge/High Level services from GNE ANE and SNE

markydh



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08 Jan 2018, 10:14 pm #30
(08 Jan 2018, 9:52 pm)ifm001 Think its council owned now, but it just needs a bit of TLC and could easily take all the Tyne Bridge/High Level services from GNE ANE and SNE

Rolleyes Rolleyes Rolleyes  Just needs a bit of TLC?  It would break pretty much every health, safety and accessibility rule in the book!  Never going to happen, and besides which, it's a bloody hike from there to town!  At least be realistic.  The intention is to ultimately build a new bus station on Durrant Road for south of Tyne bus routes (i.e. those that enter Newcastle via the Tyne Bridge).  But for now, the council are looking at introducing a bus loop.  I have no idea whether it will be clockwise or anti-clockwise but there are already some GNE drivers that access Eldon Square from the Haymarket direction.  I bet the same people who say this will be 'disastrous' are the same people who said it about the pedestrianisation of Northumberland Street.  Now who would even dream of reintroducing traffic on there?!?!
markydh
08 Jan 2018, 10:14 pm #30

(08 Jan 2018, 9:52 pm)ifm001 Think its council owned now, but it just needs a bit of TLC and could easily take all the Tyne Bridge/High Level services from GNE ANE and SNE

Rolleyes Rolleyes Rolleyes  Just needs a bit of TLC?  It would break pretty much every health, safety and accessibility rule in the book!  Never going to happen, and besides which, it's a bloody hike from there to town!  At least be realistic.  The intention is to ultimately build a new bus station on Durrant Road for south of Tyne bus routes (i.e. those that enter Newcastle via the Tyne Bridge).  But for now, the council are looking at introducing a bus loop.  I have no idea whether it will be clockwise or anti-clockwise but there are already some GNE drivers that access Eldon Square from the Haymarket direction.  I bet the same people who say this will be 'disastrous' are the same people who said it about the pedestrianisation of Northumberland Street.  Now who would even dream of reintroducing traffic on there?!?!

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988
08 Jan 2018, 10:48 pm #31
(08 Jan 2018, 10:14 pm)markydh Rolleyes Rolleyes Rolleyes  Just needs a bit of TLC?  It would break pretty much every health, safety and accessibility rule in the book!  Never going to happen, and besides which, it's a bloody hike from there to town!  At least be realistic.  The intention is to ultimately build a new bus station on Durrant Road for south of Tyne bus routes (i.e. those that enter Newcastle via the Tyne Bridge).  But for now, the council are looking at introducing a bus loop.  I have no idea whether it will be clockwise or anti-clockwise but there are already some GNE drivers that access Eldon Square from the Haymarket direction.  I bet the same people who say this will be 'disastrous' are the same people who said it about the pedestrianisation of Northumberland Street.  Now who would even dream of reintroducing traffic on there?!?!

Be realistic!!!!

A hike from there to town. Out of Worswick Street next street is Pilgrim Street (in the town)

For years it was good enough for people to walk to and from. Course its not too far.
LVK 404L
08 Jan 2018, 10:48 pm #31

(08 Jan 2018, 10:14 pm)markydh Rolleyes Rolleyes Rolleyes  Just needs a bit of TLC?  It would break pretty much every health, safety and accessibility rule in the book!  Never going to happen, and besides which, it's a bloody hike from there to town!  At least be realistic.  The intention is to ultimately build a new bus station on Durrant Road for south of Tyne bus routes (i.e. those that enter Newcastle via the Tyne Bridge).  But for now, the council are looking at introducing a bus loop.  I have no idea whether it will be clockwise or anti-clockwise but there are already some GNE drivers that access Eldon Square from the Haymarket direction.  I bet the same people who say this will be 'disastrous' are the same people who said it about the pedestrianisation of Northumberland Street.  Now who would even dream of reintroducing traffic on there?!?!

Be realistic!!!!

A hike from there to town. Out of Worswick Street next street is Pilgrim Street (in the town)

For years it was good enough for people to walk to and from. Course its not too far.

08 Jan 2018, 10:57 pm #32
Worsick Street Development is not a bad idea tbh. There is the derelict building on the corner of Worsick Street and Pilgrim Street so even knocking it all down to build a new station would make sense allowing buses to possibly enter and exit Newcastle via the Tyne Bridge or High Level Bridge. As the buses wouldn't be going into the bus loop as well, this would possibly ease congestion. It's just a thought
MattRut21
08 Jan 2018, 10:57 pm #32

Worsick Street Development is not a bad idea tbh. There is the derelict building on the corner of Worsick Street and Pilgrim Street so even knocking it all down to build a new station would make sense allowing buses to possibly enter and exit Newcastle via the Tyne Bridge or High Level Bridge. As the buses wouldn't be going into the bus loop as well, this would possibly ease congestion. It's just a thought

markydh



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09 Jan 2018, 12:06 am #33
(08 Jan 2018, 10:48 pm)ifm001 Be realistic!!!!

A hike from there to town. Out of Worswick Street next street is Pilgrim Street (in the town)

For years it was good enough for people to walk to and from. Course its not too far.

It's further than Market Street, which is the way buses would go.  Uphill.  Sorry, but Worswick Street is just an enthusiast's misty eyed wet dream.
markydh
09 Jan 2018, 12:06 am #33

(08 Jan 2018, 10:48 pm)ifm001 Be realistic!!!!

A hike from there to town. Out of Worswick Street next street is Pilgrim Street (in the town)

For years it was good enough for people to walk to and from. Course its not too far.

It's further than Market Street, which is the way buses would go.  Uphill.  Sorry, but Worswick Street is just an enthusiast's misty eyed wet dream.

Andreos1



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09 Jan 2018, 8:41 am #34
(09 Jan 2018, 12:06 am)markydh It's further than Market Street, which is the way buses would go.  Uphill.  Sorry, but Worswick Street is just an enthusiast's misty eyed wet dream.

Surely 'closer' depends on which part of the town people are wanting to head to?
Assuming Northumberland St - then I would suggest Worswick St could be closer - depending where on Market St the stop is. Assuming Blackett St/Monument area (as that is where the issue is coming from), then maybe it would depend on which stop on Market St the service stopped at.

We could keep going with suggestions about which stops are nearer, but surely the idea would be to ensure that all areas of the town are served?

Cross-city services may use Market Street in the future. I'm not sure all cross-river services to Eldon Square would use it.

Edit:
Not sure how accurate/up to date this is, but a map of the proposed loop for those who have yet to see it.
https://www.scribblemaps.com/maps/view/P...HGSUKSnKp1
Edited 09 Jan 2018, 10:27 am by Andreos1.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
09 Jan 2018, 8:41 am #34

(09 Jan 2018, 12:06 am)markydh It's further than Market Street, which is the way buses would go.  Uphill.  Sorry, but Worswick Street is just an enthusiast's misty eyed wet dream.

Surely 'closer' depends on which part of the town people are wanting to head to?
Assuming Northumberland St - then I would suggest Worswick St could be closer - depending where on Market St the stop is. Assuming Blackett St/Monument area (as that is where the issue is coming from), then maybe it would depend on which stop on Market St the service stopped at.

We could keep going with suggestions about which stops are nearer, but surely the idea would be to ensure that all areas of the town are served?

Cross-city services may use Market Street in the future. I'm not sure all cross-river services to Eldon Square would use it.

Edit:
Not sure how accurate/up to date this is, but a map of the proposed loop for those who have yet to see it.
https://www.scribblemaps.com/maps/view/P...HGSUKSnKp1


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

markydh



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09 Jan 2018, 2:41 pm #35
That’s totally incorrect. Massively!
markydh
09 Jan 2018, 2:41 pm #35

That’s totally incorrect. Massively!

Ds1197



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09 Jan 2018, 4:36 pm #36
If they close blackett Street the Eldon Square terminus buses probably go up to the top John Dobson street along st. Mary's Place and past Haymarket
Ds1197
09 Jan 2018, 4:36 pm #36

If they close blackett Street the Eldon Square terminus buses probably go up to the top John Dobson street along st. Mary's Place and past Haymarket

Malarkey



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11 Mar 2018, 3:34 pm #37
Wonder if something like this which is planned for Bristol could work up here.
http://www.route-one.net/articles/Bus_ro...or_Bristol
Malarkey
11 Mar 2018, 3:34 pm #37

Wonder if something like this which is planned for Bristol could work up here.
http://www.route-one.net/articles/Bus_ro...or_Bristol

Andreos1



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06 Jun 2018, 2:50 pm #38
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...ssion=true

Road to close over summer and buses are affected.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
06 Jun 2018, 2:50 pm #38

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...ssion=true

Road to close over summer and buses are affected.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

BusLoverMum



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06 Jun 2018, 6:09 pm #39
(06 Jun 2018, 2:50 pm)Andreos1 https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...ssion=true

Road to close over summer and buses are affected.

Well that'll confuse the locals but probably sensible given that almost getting run over on Blackett street is as much of a rite of passage for people new to Newcastle as getting lost in Fenwick used to be.
BusLoverMum
06 Jun 2018, 6:09 pm #39

(06 Jun 2018, 2:50 pm)Andreos1 https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...ssion=true

Road to close over summer and buses are affected.

Well that'll confuse the locals but probably sensible given that almost getting run over on Blackett street is as much of a rite of passage for people new to Newcastle as getting lost in Fenwick used to be.

15 May 2019, 5:15 pm #40
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...s-16276581

Why bus bosses think tolls on three bridges across the River Tyne is a GOOD idea
TEN 6083
15 May 2019, 5:15 pm #40

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...s-16276581

Why bus bosses think tolls on three bridges across the River Tyne is a GOOD idea

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