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S830OFT



1,395
16 May 2018, 5:54 pm #861
(16 May 2018, 4:52 pm)S813 FVK Stanley Travel - I understand your confusion!

Apparently Stanley are loosing the R5 aswell.


S830OFT
16 May 2018, 5:54 pm #861

(16 May 2018, 4:52 pm)S813 FVK Stanley Travel - I understand your confusion!

Apparently Stanley are loosing the R5 aswell.



JM03



505
16 May 2018, 8:15 pm #862
(16 May 2018, 5:54 pm)S830OFT Apparently Stanley are loosing the R5 aswell.

Struggling to keep a hold of routes, any reason for stanley travel losing their routes
JM03
16 May 2018, 8:15 pm #862

(16 May 2018, 5:54 pm)S830OFT Apparently Stanley are loosing the R5 aswell.

Struggling to keep a hold of routes, any reason for stanley travel losing their routes

Tom



6,138
16 May 2018, 8:16 pm #863
(16 May 2018, 8:15 pm)JM03 Struggling to keep a hold of routes, any reason for stanley travel losing their routes

Down to bids really, if GCT bid less then they’ll be chosen
Tom
16 May 2018, 8:16 pm #863

(16 May 2018, 8:15 pm)JM03 Struggling to keep a hold of routes, any reason for stanley travel losing their routes

Down to bids really, if GCT bid less then they’ll be chosen

JM03



505
16 May 2018, 8:18 pm #864
(16 May 2018, 8:16 pm)Tom Down to bids really, if GCT bid less then they’ll be chosen

GCT really knocking all the competition out right now, won't be surprised if they go for bigger targets soon like certain arriva and GNE routes soon EG- 553?
JM03
16 May 2018, 8:18 pm #864

(16 May 2018, 8:16 pm)Tom Down to bids really, if GCT bid less then they’ll be chosen

GCT really knocking all the competition out right now, won't be surprised if they go for bigger targets soon like certain arriva and GNE routes soon EG- 553?

Jamie M

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16 May 2018, 8:26 pm #865
(16 May 2018, 8:18 pm)JM03 GCT really knocking all the competition out right now, won't be surprised if they go for bigger targets soon like certain arriva and GNE routes soon EG- 553?
They need buses and drivers hours to do it, both of which are major limitations, especially for a smaller operator. Not just funding for contracts.

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Jamie M
16 May 2018, 8:26 pm #865

(16 May 2018, 8:18 pm)JM03 GCT really knocking all the competition out right now, won't be surprised if they go for bigger targets soon like certain arriva and GNE routes soon EG- 553?
They need buses and drivers hours to do it, both of which are major limitations, especially for a smaller operator. Not just funding for contracts.

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Tom



6,138
16 May 2018, 8:27 pm #866
(16 May 2018, 8:18 pm)JM03 GCT really knocking all the competition out right now, won't be surprised if they go for bigger targets soon like certain arriva and GNE routes soon EG- 553?

To be fair to them, I don’t have any complaints about the service. Pretty decent on the 335, never have any major reliability issues even at peak times
Tom
16 May 2018, 8:27 pm #866

(16 May 2018, 8:18 pm)JM03 GCT really knocking all the competition out right now, won't be surprised if they go for bigger targets soon like certain arriva and GNE routes soon EG- 553?

To be fair to them, I don’t have any complaints about the service. Pretty decent on the 335, never have any major reliability issues even at peak times

JM03



505
16 May 2018, 8:28 pm #867
(16 May 2018, 8:26 pm)Jamie M They need buses and drivers hours to do it, both of which  are major limitations, especially for a smaller operator. Not just funding for contracts.

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Fair enough but they are taking Phoenix and Stanley down with ease the way I see it going at the moment.
JM03
16 May 2018, 8:28 pm #867

(16 May 2018, 8:26 pm)Jamie M They need buses and drivers hours to do it, both of which  are major limitations, especially for a smaller operator. Not just funding for contracts.

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Fair enough but they are taking Phoenix and Stanley down with ease the way I see it going at the moment.

Andreos1



14,155
17 May 2018, 6:22 am #868
(16 May 2018, 8:28 pm)JM03 Fair enough but they are taking Phoenix and Stanley down with ease the way I see it going at the moment.

It doesn't seem that long ago that Phoenix and Stanley were dominating these tenders.
Is it as simple as being undercut or are business objectives changing?
Andreos1
17 May 2018, 6:22 am #868

(16 May 2018, 8:28 pm)JM03 Fair enough but they are taking Phoenix and Stanley down with ease the way I see it going at the moment.

It doesn't seem that long ago that Phoenix and Stanley were dominating these tenders.
Is it as simple as being undercut or are business objectives changing?

Dan

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18,099
17 May 2018, 6:31 am #869
(16 May 2018, 8:18 pm)JM03 GCT really knocking all the competition out right now, won't be surprised if they go for bigger targets soon like certain arriva and GNE routes soon EG- 553?

(17 May 2018, 6:22 am)Andreos1 It doesn't seem that long ago that Phoenix and Stanley were dominating these tenders.
Is it as simple as being undercut or are business objectives changing?

It's not always based on price - there's sometimes a quality weighting too.

I believe Gateshead Central Taxis were awarded the 643 based on quality, despite being priced higher than competitors. The Bluebird-type minibuses are all Euro 6, which gets them brownie points in the tender process.
Dan
17 May 2018, 6:31 am #869

(16 May 2018, 8:18 pm)JM03 GCT really knocking all the competition out right now, won't be surprised if they go for bigger targets soon like certain arriva and GNE routes soon EG- 553?

(17 May 2018, 6:22 am)Andreos1 It doesn't seem that long ago that Phoenix and Stanley were dominating these tenders.
Is it as simple as being undercut or are business objectives changing?

It's not always based on price - there's sometimes a quality weighting too.

I believe Gateshead Central Taxis were awarded the 643 based on quality, despite being priced higher than competitors. The Bluebird-type minibuses are all Euro 6, which gets them brownie points in the tender process.

S830OFT



1,395
17 May 2018, 6:53 am #870
Has it been confirmed who has gained the 23, 37, 73, 515 and 558 yet?


S830OFT
17 May 2018, 6:53 am #870

Has it been confirmed who has gained the 23, 37, 73, 515 and 558 yet?



GuyParkRoyal



1,004
21 May 2018, 9:17 am #871
Sunderland, South Tyneside and Gateshead contracts for Nexus Secured Services starting on 22nd July 2018 have now been awarded. There were six tenders received the successful suppliers are:
Go North East, Gateshead Central Taxis, Stagecoach and Compass Community Transport.
GuyParkRoyal
21 May 2018, 9:17 am #871

Sunderland, South Tyneside and Gateshead contracts for Nexus Secured Services starting on 22nd July 2018 have now been awarded. There were six tenders received the successful suppliers are:
Go North East, Gateshead Central Taxis, Stagecoach and Compass Community Transport.

Michael



19,144
21 May 2018, 9:20 am #872
(21 May 2018, 9:17 am)GuyParkRoyal Sunderland, South Tyneside and Gateshead contracts for Nexus Secured Services starting on 22nd July 2018 have now been awarded. There were six tenders received the successful suppliers are:
Go North East, Gateshead Central Taxis, Stagecoach and Compass Community Transport.

What services were these again?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
21 May 2018, 9:20 am #872

(21 May 2018, 9:17 am)GuyParkRoyal Sunderland, South Tyneside and Gateshead contracts for Nexus Secured Services starting on 22nd July 2018 have now been awarded. There were six tenders received the successful suppliers are:
Go North East, Gateshead Central Taxis, Stagecoach and Compass Community Transport.

What services were these again?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Tom



6,138
21 May 2018, 4:15 pm #873
(21 May 2018, 9:20 am)Michael What services were these again?

These were the ones that were due to finish in July according to previous posts:

Service 37 (Weekday Peak Times)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 36
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Service 37/73 (Mon-Sat daytime)
3x low-floor Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 49
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services 92, 83A, 927, 937, 68 and 93A (Mon-Sat daytime)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 36
Maximum vehicle length 8.9m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services 515/558 (Daily)
2x Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 49
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Service 643 (Mon-Sat daytime)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 16
Maximum vehicle length 8.0m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services R3/R4/R6 (Daily)
3x Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 23
Maximum vehicle length 9.0m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

But I'd imagine evening/sunday secured journeys would be included hence Stagecoach being awarded some, as I can't imagine them bidding for daytime services.
Tom
21 May 2018, 4:15 pm #873

(21 May 2018, 9:20 am)Michael What services were these again?

These were the ones that were due to finish in July according to previous posts:

Service 37 (Weekday Peak Times)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 36
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Service 37/73 (Mon-Sat daytime)
3x low-floor Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 49
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services 92, 83A, 927, 937, 68 and 93A (Mon-Sat daytime)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 36
Maximum vehicle length 8.9m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services 515/558 (Daily)
2x Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 49
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Service 643 (Mon-Sat daytime)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 16
Maximum vehicle length 8.0m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services R3/R4/R6 (Daily)
3x Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 23
Maximum vehicle length 9.0m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

But I'd imagine evening/sunday secured journeys would be included hence Stagecoach being awarded some, as I can't imagine them bidding for daytime services.

S830OFT



1,395
21 May 2018, 4:54 pm #874
Who knows who has gained these routes as we know GCT have gained the 643 back.


S830OFT
21 May 2018, 4:54 pm #874

Who knows who has gained these routes as we know GCT have gained the 643 back.



Michael



19,144
21 May 2018, 5:34 pm #875
(21 May 2018, 4:15 pm)Tom These were the ones that were due to finish in July according to previous posts:

Service 37 (Weekday Peak Times)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 36
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Service 37/73 (Mon-Sat daytime)
3x low-floor Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 49
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services 92, 83A, 927, 937, 68 and 93A (Mon-Sat daytime)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 36
Maximum vehicle length 8.9m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services 515/558 (Daily)
2x Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 49
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Service 643 (Mon-Sat daytime)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 16
Maximum vehicle length 8.0m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services R3/R4/R6 (Daily)
3x Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 23
Maximum vehicle length 9.0m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

But I'd imagine evening/sunday secured journeys would be included hence Stagecoach being awarded some, as I can't imagine them bidding for daytime services.

Thanks Tom.

Hoping the 37/73 has been won by Go North East or Stagecoach, hopefully then could use my smartzone pass!

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
21 May 2018, 5:34 pm #875

(21 May 2018, 4:15 pm)Tom These were the ones that were due to finish in July according to previous posts:

Service 37 (Weekday Peak Times)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 36
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Service 37/73 (Mon-Sat daytime)
3x low-floor Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 49
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services 92, 83A, 927, 937, 68 and 93A (Mon-Sat daytime)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 36
Maximum vehicle length 8.9m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services 515/558 (Daily)
2x Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 49
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Service 643 (Mon-Sat daytime)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 16
Maximum vehicle length 8.0m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services R3/R4/R6 (Daily)
3x Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 23
Maximum vehicle length 9.0m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

But I'd imagine evening/sunday secured journeys would be included hence Stagecoach being awarded some, as I can't imagine them bidding for daytime services.

Thanks Tom.

Hoping the 37/73 has been won by Go North East or Stagecoach, hopefully then could use my smartzone pass!


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

GuyParkRoyal



1,004
22 May 2018, 7:18 am #876
Invitation to tender has been issued for Sunderland Connect 700/701 with a start date of 17th September. There will be a service enhancement on this contract for some journeys to be extended to serve Clanny House.
GuyParkRoyal
22 May 2018, 7:18 am #876

Invitation to tender has been issued for Sunderland Connect 700/701 with a start date of 17th September. There will be a service enhancement on this contract for some journeys to be extended to serve Clanny House.

Michael



19,144
22 May 2018, 9:14 pm #877
(22 May 2018, 7:18 am)GuyParkRoyal Invitation to tender has been issued for Sunderland Connect 700/701 with a start date of 17th September. There will be a service enhancement on this contract for some journeys to be extended to serve Clanny House.

Go North East have ran it really well since it was launched, that might help them retain it.

Wonder if new buses will be part of the contract?, as the current hybrids are 6/7 years old.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
22 May 2018, 9:14 pm #877

(22 May 2018, 7:18 am)GuyParkRoyal Invitation to tender has been issued for Sunderland Connect 700/701 with a start date of 17th September. There will be a service enhancement on this contract for some journeys to be extended to serve Clanny House.

Go North East have ran it really well since it was launched, that might help them retain it.

Wonder if new buses will be part of the contract?, as the current hybrids are 6/7 years old.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

LeeCalder



1,928
26 May 2018, 12:33 pm #878
I have been told that Go North East have won both boards on service 23, and will commence operation on Monday.

Can anyone confirm?
LeeCalder
26 May 2018, 12:33 pm #878

I have been told that Go North East have won both boards on service 23, and will commence operation on Monday.

Can anyone confirm?

Jamie M

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26 May 2018, 12:45 pm #879
(26 May 2018, 12:33 pm)LeeCalder I have been told that Go North East have won both boards on service 23, and will commence operation on Monday.

Can anyone confirm?
Dan confirmed both boards were going to GNE on upcoming service changes. Dunno if the date's been pushed forward though.

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Jamie M
26 May 2018, 12:45 pm #879

(26 May 2018, 12:33 pm)LeeCalder I have been told that Go North East have won both boards on service 23, and will commence operation on Monday.

Can anyone confirm?
Dan confirmed both boards were going to GNE on upcoming service changes. Dunno if the date's been pushed forward though.

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LeeCalder



1,928
26 May 2018, 12:51 pm #880
(26 May 2018, 12:45 pm)Jamie M Dan confirmed both boards were going to GNE on upcoming service changes. Dunno if the date's been pushed forward though.

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Thanks - My mistake.
Edited 26 May 2018, 12:52 pm by LeeCalder.
LeeCalder
26 May 2018, 12:51 pm #880

(26 May 2018, 12:45 pm)Jamie M Dan confirmed both boards were going to GNE on upcoming service changes. Dunno if the date's been pushed forward though.

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Thanks - My mistake.

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