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Andreos1   18 May 2019, 1:54 pm
(18 May 2019, 1:24 pm)JP6004 wrote Well a reduction of 1 bus per hour is shocking along this corridor. I dont know how people will cope!

Glad you've eventually realised there's been a reduction and comparable lower frequency. 
It only took you a few posts and a good night's sleep for the penny to drop. 

Obviously the lower frequency was just a small part of the initial point I was making in the original post.

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JP6004   18 May 2019, 2:08 pm
(18 May 2019, 1:54 pm)Andreos1 wrote Glad you've eventually realised there's been a reduction and comparable lower frequency. 
It only took you a few posts and a good night's sleep for the penny to drop. 

Obviously the lower frequency was just a small part of the initial point I was making in the original post.

Sorry I had to strip back the ambiguity to uncover the points you were raising. I have no comments on price of fares as I purchase annual bus pass. Although from what I have observed, people tend to buy day passes should they be travelling any kind of distance. Therefore the increase in fares by changing buses as opposed to direct services would be minimal.

I think it is unwise to condescend the changes before they've even took place. However I'm sure the hundreds of bus users in fencehouses will have their pitchforks and placards out condemning the huge cutbacks made in their area
Andreos1   18 May 2019, 2:54 pm
(18 May 2019, 2:08 pm)JP6004 wrote Sorry I had to strip back the ambiguity to uncover the points you were raising. I have no comments on price of fares as I purchase annual bus pass. Although from what I have observed, people tend to buy day passes should they be travelling any kind of distance. Therefore the increase in fares by changing buses as opposed to direct services would be minimal.

I think it is unwise to condescend the changes before they've even took place. However I'm sure the hundreds of bus users in fencehouses will have their pitchforks and placards out condemning the huge cutbacks made in their area

I'm not sure there's been any condescending on my part. 
Similar questions have been asked by those with far more knowledge and experience than I have. Not sure they would appreciate being called condescending mind.

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xpm   20 May 2019, 5:51 pm
(16 May 2019, 3:12 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote What is changing with the X84/X85 next month? What is the new Toon Tour going to be?

The X84/85 changes are probably temporary to do with the British Masters Golf Tournament at Close House/Holeyn Hall Road.

Last you they made the road one way for the duration of the tournament, and both services were diverted via Rudchester.

Lets just hope NCC don't drop another clanger and put 4-way temporary lights at the tight crossroads at the same time, like they did last year!
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Andreos1   20 May 2019, 7:04 pm
(20 May 2019, 5:51 pm)xpm wrote The X84/85 changes are probably temporary to do with the British Masters Golf Tournament at Close House/Holeyn Hall Road.

Last you they made the road one way for the duration of the tournament, and both services were diverted via Rudchester.

Lets just hope NCC don't drop another clanger and put 4-way temporary lights at the tight crossroads at the same time, like they did last year!

Isn't the British Masters at Close House next year?
This years event has just finished.

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BusLoverMum   20 May 2019, 7:39 pm
(18 May 2019, 9:27 am)streetdeckfan wrote I wonder if they'll drop the price of the X21 from Bishop to Tindale. Arriva only charge £1.40 and GNE charge £1.50 (well, they did on the 18 so I assume it'll be the same).
I know if I didn't have my monthly pass I'd probably still go for the Arriva to save that 10p
Probably not. GNE are 20p more than Arriva's short hop £1.40 fares in Durham city.
xpm   21 May 2019, 8:41 pm
(20 May 2019, 7:04 pm)Andreos1 wrote Isn't the British Masters at Close House next year?
This years event has just finished.

Saw the big board up when passing the other day and assumed it was this year.
cbma06   22 May 2019, 6:20 pm
I picked up the 55 timetable from Sunderland today and I noticed something wrong on it, on the Sunderland to Hartlepool section for the Sunday journeys don’t have the route list so a normal passenger would read the route list from the Left hand side then look along to the Sunday times and see that service 55x goes via silksworth but the other side for the Sunday times from Hartlepool to Sunderland does have the route list for the Sunday times.


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Michael   25 May 2019, 12:14 pm
NEXUS has uploaded the new 700 summer timetable:

https://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/f...020619.pdf

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Jamie M   26 May 2019, 12:18 pm
(20 May 2019, 7:39 pm)BusLoverMum wrote Probably not. GNE are 20p more than Arriva's short hop £1.40 fares in Durham city.

Hospital to bus station is £1.20 on X21. Maybe even salutation, but I've never taken a fare there.
BusLoverMum   26 May 2019, 1:39 pm
(26 May 2019, 12:18 pm)Jamie M wrote Hospital to bus station is £1.20 on X21. Maybe even salutation, but I've never taken a fare there.

Definitely £1.60. We only get off at the hospital when we know the roads will be very busy so we know it'll save time to use the crossing and trudge up high Carr road. Same from arnison to salutation on the 14.
streetdeckfan   26 May 2019, 2:03 pm
(26 May 2019, 12:18 pm)Jamie M wrote Hospital to bus station is £1.20 on X21. Maybe even salutation, but I've never taken a fare there.

I always thought the minimum fare with GNE was £1.50, or at least that's the least I've ever been charged for going a couple stops.

On a Sunday when I'm travelling to Tindale, I get the X21 to Bishop, then because there's a 20 minute wait, I walk down to Cabin Gate and I only have to pay £1.10 instead of the £1.40 if I were to go from Bus Station, but with GNE that journey is still £1.50. So that's 40p cheaper than the equivalent GNE ticket, which is a fair bit

If GNE were to run the X21 to Tindale later into the evenings and on Sundays, I could basically cut ties with Arriva, except from when I have to travel to Crook, but even then, I'd rather go via Durham than pay £4.50. It's a shame the X46 only runs twice a day in each direction
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Andreos1   26 May 2019, 7:20 pm
(26 May 2019, 2:03 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I always thought the minimum fare with GNE was £1.50, or at least that's the least I've ever been charged for going a couple stops.

On a Sunday when I'm travelling to Tindale, I get the X21 to Bishop, then because there's a 20 minute wait, I walk down to Cabin Gate and I only have to pay £1.10 instead of the £1.40 if I were to go from Bus Station, but with GNE that journey is still £1.50. So that's 40p cheaper than the equivalent GNE ticket, which is a fair bit

If GNE were to run the X21 to Tindale later into the evenings and on Sundays, I could basically cut ties with Arriva, except from when I have to travel to Crook, but even then, I'd rather go via Durham than pay £4.50. It's a shame the X46 only runs twice a day in each direction

I remember the days when you could get from fatfield to park lane for £1.20!

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MurdnunoC   26 May 2019, 7:23 pm
I remember the days when you could get from Winlaton to Newcastle for 5p. I also remember when the price rose by 100% to 10p then increased by 50% to 15p.
Andreos1   26 May 2019, 9:21 pm
(26 May 2019, 7:23 pm)MurdnunoC wrote I remember the days when you could get from Winlaton to Newcastle for 5p. I also remember when the price rose by 100% to 10p then increased by 50% to 15p.

Those were the days. 
That 5p fare was great for kids.

Think about how far you could get for 5p on the 638!
That £1.20 far on the 638 or 777 wasn't that long ago in the scheme of things. Think the equivalent child fare at the time was 25p.

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streetdeckfan   26 May 2019, 11:21 pm
(26 May 2019, 9:21 pm)Andreos1 wrote Those were the days. 
That 5p fare was great for kids.

Think about how far you could get for 5p on the 638!
That £1.20 far on the 638 or 777 wasn't that long ago in the scheme of things. Think the equivalent child fare at the time was 25p.

I wish we had ticket prices that low when I was younger! I had to settle for paying £1.10 for an all day ticket.
I was devastated when I turned 16 and lost use of my Pop Card, in fact I stopped travelling by bus for a good 2 or 3 years.

I now pay £110 a month, mostly because I travel between Bishop and Gateshead quite frequently, and because of the great way the GNE has their zones set up, I have to get a 3 zone ticket! At that price though it still works out cheaper than driving, sure it takes 2 hours instead of the half an hour it would take in the car, but I can work during those two hours and I don't have to deal with the hassle that is other road users! 

Plus, there's nothing quite like having the whole upper deck to yourself for the whole journey on a warm summer night with all the windows open, that alone is worth the price! (until you get to certain part of the route *cough* Spennymoor *cough* and some drunk inevitably gets on, somehow manages to climb up the stairs and sits right behind you)
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BusLoverMum   27 May 2019, 12:07 am
(26 May 2019, 7:23 pm)MurdnunoC wrote I remember the days when you could get from Winlaton to Newcastle for 5p. I also remember when the price rose by 100% to 10p then increased by 50% to 15p.

Eww what's happened with the format, here?

Anyhow, i remember when it was £1.10 from Low Fell into Newcastle, or about £2 return.

(26 May 2019, 11:21 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I wish we had ticket prices that low when I was younger! I had to settle for paying £1.10 for an all day ticket.
I was devastated when I turned 16 and lost use of my Pop Card, in fact I stopped travelling by bus for a good 2 or 3 years.

I now pay £110 a month, mostly because I travel between Bishop and Gateshead quite frequently, and because of the great way the GNE has their zones set up, I have to get a 3 zone ticket! At that price though it still works out cheaper than driving, sure it takes 2 hours instead of the half an hour it would take in the car, but I can work during those two hours and I don't have to deal with the hassle that is other road users! 

Plus, there's nothing quite like having the whole upper deck to yourself for the whole journey on a warm summer night with all the windows open, that alone is worth the price! (until you get to certain part of the route *cough* Spennymoor *cough* and some drunk inevitably gets on, somehow manages to climb up the stairs and sits right behind you)

To be fair, that used to happen in the middle of the afternoon when i was transporting littlun to schoo on the ANE 6!

Littlun soon put off the ones who weren't too drunk, mind Big Grin
Rob44   01 Jun 2019, 7:12 am
All these changes to GNE buses on the 19th May, would members on here expect the bus stops in tyen and wear to be updated with new bus number and running times nearly 3 weeks later?
cbma06   01 Jun 2019, 9:48 am
(01 Jun 2019, 7:12 am)Rob44 wrote All these changes to GNE buses on the 19th May, would members on here expect the bus stops in tyen and wear to be updated with new bus number and running times nearly 3 weeks later?


Nexus deals in the timetables etc... at bus stops in Tyne and Wear, GNE has no control of what’s displayed at the bus stops.


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Rob44   01 Jun 2019, 10:43 am
Thats what I thought. They need tyo get their act together as not eeveryone has a smart phone to check the up to date time table!
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JP6004   01 Jun 2019, 10:59 am

(01 Jun 2019, 10:43 am)Rob44 wrote Thats what I thought. They need tyo get their act together as not eeveryone has a smart phone to check the up to date time table!


Least you can get paper timetable now

Rob44   01 Jun 2019, 11:02 am
yes thats true.
cbma06   01 Jun 2019, 11:02 am
What’s all this

images on posts for, it’s annoying trying to read the posts with all these images on


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BusLoverMum   02 Jun 2019, 2:06 pm

(01 Jun 2019, 7:12 am)Rob44 wrote All these changes to GNE buses on the 19th May, would members on here expect the bus stops in tyen and wear to be updated with new bus number and running times nearly 3 weeks later?


The stands in hartlepool still say X35

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Michael   02 Jun 2019, 2:09 pm
(02 Jun 2019, 2:06 pm)BusLoverMum wrote


The stands in hartlepool still say X35


Half the bus stops in Sunderland still have the 36 on.... would of thought NEXUS would be out and about changing them.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
cbma06   02 Jun 2019, 2:17 pm
(02 Jun 2019, 2:06 pm)BusLoverMum wrote


The stands in hartlepool still say X35



I think Connect teesvalley does Hartlepool area and there have had major cutbacks in the past 10 years or so


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(02 Jun 2019, 2:09 pm)Michael wrote
Half the bus stops in Sunderland still have the 36 on.... would of thought NEXUS would be out and about changing them.


It didn’t long for DCC to take the X7 timetables off the bus stops south of Peterlee, there were took off 4 days before the changes happened.


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streetdeckfan   02 Jun 2019, 8:14 pm

(01 Jun 2019, 10:43 am)Rob44 wrote Thats what I thought. They need tyo get their act together as not eeveryone has a smart phone to check the up to date time table!


It's not as if having a smartphone is useful down here in Bishop, they still havent added any of the new stops for the X21, and some of the stops that the X21 does stop at don't show on the app anymore. Plus, the X21E is the only one that tracks southbound, so you can't even see where the bus is. I reported these issues on the morning of the 19th and they still haven't been resolved. I've had to resort to using the bus timetable in Google Maps for the live times, which somehow manages to work perfectly yet GNE can't figure it out.


The paper timetables are nice though

Dan   02 Jun 2019, 8:58 pm
(02 Jun 2019, 8:14 pm)streetdeckfan wrote


It's not as if having a smartphone is useful down here in Bishop, they still havent added any of the new stops for the X21, and some of the stops that the X21 does stop at don't show on the app anymore. Plus, the X21E is the only one that tracks southbound, so you can't even see where the bus is. I reported these issues on the morning of the 19th and they still haven't been resolved. I've had to resort to using the bus timetable in Google Maps for the live times, which somehow manages to work perfectly yet GNE can't figure it out.


The paper timetables are nice though

Posting on here time and time again won't help you though - only GNE Customer Services can report this to the relevant parties for it to be fixed.

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Michael   11 Jun 2019, 5:34 pm
PB0003954/803 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Sunderland Docks, Barrack Street to Silksworth, Church View
Service number: 33 (33A)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 21 Jul 2019

PB0003954/307 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, Market Street to Newcastle, Market Street
Service number: 97 (97A, X97)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 21 Jul 2019

PB0003954/868 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: NORTH SHIELDS, RUDYERD ST dep to SOUTH SHIELDS CORONATION ST.
Service number: 5 (5)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 21 Jul 2019

PB0003954/654 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: South Stanley/Annfield Plain Fines Park to Metrocentre
Service number: M6 (M8, 704, 836, M7)
Service type: Hail & Ride, Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 21 Jul 2019

PB0003954/650 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Stanley Bus Station to Lanchester Village Green
Service number: 30 (30A)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 21 Jul 2019

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JP6004   11 Jun 2019, 5:39 pm

(11 Jun 2019, 5:34 pm)Michael wrote PB0003954/803 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Sunderland Docks, Barrack Street to Silksworth, Church View
Service number: 33 (33A)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 21 Jul 2019

PB0003954/307 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, Market Street to Newcastle, Market Street
Service number: 97 (97A, X97)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 21 Jul 2019

PB0003954/868 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: NORTH SHIELDS, RUDYERD ST dep to SOUTH SHIELDS CORONATION ST.
Service number: 5 (5)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 21 Jul 2019

PB0003954/654 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: South Stanley/Annfield Plain Fines Park to Metrocentre
Service number: M6 (M8, 704, 836, M7)
Service type: Hail & Ride, Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 21 Jul 2019

PB0003954/650 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Stanley Bus Station to Lanchester Village Green
Service number: 30 (30A)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 21 Jul 2019


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