(14 Aug 2022, 4:21 pm)MurdnunoC wrote This conversation is starting to make no sense.Member suggested extending service 50 to Sunderland. Was then suggested to extend onto Durham fast if so. Firther suggestions about fast routes Durham/Sunderland/ Shields Its a suggestion thread, it makes common sense and is not off topic like most other threads
(14 Aug 2022, 4:18 pm)Unber43 wrote Tbf the X20 to South Shields makes no sense as the 24 goes the quickest way. The 50 or 60 extended to South Sheields/Sunderland would be best.Aside from the fact the alternative route goes along the coast and could easily get potential for plenty of passengers from Durham/Rainton/Houghton going to the beach and the shows.
(14 Aug 2022, 4:39 pm)ifm001 wrote Member suggested extending service 50 to Sunderland. Was then suggested to extend onto Durham fast if so. Firther suggestions about fast routes Durham/Sunderland/ Shields Its a suggestion thread, it makes common sense and is not off topic like most other threads
(11 Aug 2022, 9:47 pm)N1cholas wrote Wont be long and the X20 will probably get scrapped with the 20 extended to Langley park every 30 mins as a 20A also running via rainton bridge to save the complaints, seems pointless having so many buses on the same corridor to DurhamWell that didnt take long to come around, the change says temporarily but you can guarantee it will be permanent, can see the X20 citaros getting withdrawn too in the near future
(17 Aug 2022, 12:22 am)omnicity4659 wrote A suggestion for the X10 or whatever incarnation comes about when they notice it's f**ked...
Send it through Easington village via Hawthorn, can't imagine it would have too much of a time penalty as it's pretty much going the same way on a parallel A19. Going northbound you have the option to go straight up the A19 after the green, southbound you wouldn't need to double back to the A19 after Dalton Park.
(17 Aug 2022, 5:37 am)Dan wrote Is it fucked, or is it doing better financially now than before?And if it is 'doing better financially now than before', how sustainable will that be?
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(17 Aug 2022, 10:27 am)Andreos1 wrote And if it is 'doing better financially now than before', how sustainable will that be?
You've consolidated loads from two services in to one, lengthened the journey and eventually (I'll give you the lottery numbers on Saturday if you want), numbers will fall to a level that isn't financially sustainable - because the service doesn't meet their needs.
The link between Teesside and Tyneside will need improving and adapting in the future.
(17 Aug 2022, 10:48 am)Storx wrote The Northern Connect service of Newcastle -> Chester Le Street -> Durham -> Stockton -> Thornaby -> Middlesbrough should be the answer imo. Especially now that the XC trains are down to hourly so there's a free path. Would help the locals in Waldridge who have had their services pissed about more times than ever to get places aswell.
Believe it only takes 55 minutes that way rather than the 85 mins at best the current ways.
(17 Aug 2022, 11:01 am)Kuyoyo wrote The Northern Connect network isn’t happening now - it was scrapped the moment Northern went over to Direct Operated Railway control.
(16 Aug 2022, 11:53 pm)Unber43 wrote 46/47/47A/48 Red Kite Ranger
47 - Consett - Blackhall Mill - High Spen - Rowlands Gill - Winlaton - Blaydon - Benwell - Newcastle (every 60 mins)
46 - Consett - Blackhall Mill - High Spen - Greenside - Crawcrook - Blaydon - Metrocentre - Newcastle (every 60 mins)
47A - Consett - Blackhall Mill - High Spen - Winlaton - Blaydon - Benwell - Newcastle (every 60 mins)
48 - Winlaton - Blaydon - Newcastle Business Park - Newcastle (every 60 mins)
47 Reduced to Hourly
X45
X45 Newcastle - Metrocentre - Rowlands Gill - Hamsterley Bank Top - Shotley Bridge - Blackhill - Consett (every 20 mins)
- All Peterlee Local Services Remove
- 57 withdrawn
(17 Aug 2022, 5:37 am)Dan wrote Is it fucked, or is it doing better financially now than before?
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(22 Aug 2022, 5:59 am)omnicity4659 wrote Yeah, I prefer to drive all the way now as opposed to dump the car in Gateshead and get the X10. I'd consider something as fucked when I walk away as a regular customer.
Going to hourly is putting more money into the pockets of toll road operators TT2 and Autolink instead of GNE's.
(22 Aug 2022, 6:59 am)Dan wrote I wonder if you are one of many, or just a few? I suppose only Go North East will have access to that level of information.Surely losing a PVR of 3 shows GNE have/are losing passengers on that route
If the latter, and the service is performing better now than before by consolidating the majority of seven buses worth of passengers into four, then I can’t see the service changing back any time soon.
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(22 Aug 2022, 6:59 am)Dan wrote I wonder if you are one of many, or just a few? I suppose only Go North East will have access to that level of information.
If the latter, and the service is performing better now than before by consolidating the majority of seven buses worth of passengers into four, then I can’t see the service changing back any time soon.
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(22 Aug 2022, 7:07 am)Unber43 wrote Surely losing a PVR of 3 shows GNE have/are losing passengers on that route
(22 Aug 2022, 7:42 am)streetdeckfan wrote Was the X9/X10 ever packed though?
I don't recall ever using it in the past and it being full, whereas now it's pretty much always been standing only whenever I've used it.
That implies to me that numbers are pretty similar they're just carrying them on less buses
(22 Aug 2022, 7:42 am)streetdeckfan wrote Was the X9/X10 ever packed though?Whenever I used it from Middlesbrough / Newcastle there was atleast 30-40 people in a queue, then by the time it would leave most seats would be full.
I don't recall ever using it in the past and it being full, whereas now it's pretty much always been standing only whenever I've used it.
That implies to me that numbers are pretty similar they're just carrying them on less buses
(22 Aug 2022, 7:42 am)streetdeckfan wrote Was the X9/X10 ever packed though?Pre Covid, the peak time ones were very busy; I've definitely done a couple journeys on the X10 and stood the whole way. Still seems busy now at times but not seen one quite that rammed.
I don't recall ever using it in the past and it being full, whereas now it's pretty much always been standing only whenever I've used it.
That implies to me that numbers are pretty similar they're just carrying them on less buses
(22 Aug 2022, 2:59 pm)F114TML wrote Pre Covid, the peak time ones were very busy; I've definitely done a couple journeys on the X10 and stood the whole way. Still seems busy now at times but not seen one quite that rammed.
(22 Aug 2022, 7:15 pm)Andreos1 wrote Think I reported standing on it earlier this year.I thought GNE had the following policies pre-covid for standing?
Would have been a Saturday and before they consolidated both routes in to one.
