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Michael   25 Feb 2015, 9:31 am
Not Sunderland but Dalton Park

Big-name restaurant chains join £45m Dalton Park expansion – start date set for May

The owners of the Murton-based complex have announced they will welcome Pizza Express and Prezzo to its phase two development, which will also include a Morrisons supermarket, petrol station, hotel, pub and seven-screen Cineworld cinema.

The restaurants will join a drive-thru KFC and a Frankie and Benny’s diner which have already been confirmed as tenants.


http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/busin...-1-7124151


Yes, its happening... work starts May!!!!

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Andreos1   27 Feb 2015, 9:32 am
http://m.sunderlandecho.com/news/local/a...-1-7128774

Plans made to clear old Colliery/bus depot site.

There are some historic buildings and engine sheds round there, which may make for interesting photos prior to demolition.

Due to the size of the development, I would suggest some of the money is spent on improving the road infrastructure in the area - particularly around Herrington Burn and Shiney Row.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1   27 Feb 2015, 1:15 pm
(25 Feb 2015, 9:31 am)Michael wrote Not Sunderland but Dalton Park

Big-name restaurant chains join £45m Dalton Park expansion – start date set for May

The owners of the Murton-based complex have announced they will welcome Pizza Express and Prezzo to its phase two development, which will also include a Morrisons supermarket, petrol station, hotel, pub and seven-screen Cineworld cinema.

The restaurants will join a drive-thru KFC and a Frankie and Benny’s diner which have already been confirmed as tenants.


http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/busin...-1-7124151


Yes, its happening... work starts May!!!!
http://www.thejournal.co.uk/business/bus...ty-8726973

Image of the completed project.
Looks like the sole bus stop is staying - can't see anything else in the picture which shows an alternative calling point/s.

Wonder if the operators see value in sticking a bus in, that doesn't come from Sunderland or go via Seaham Wink.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
MurdnunoC   01 Mar 2015, 9:09 pm
(01 Mar 2015, 8:55 pm)AIG20 wrote I have found a massive Sunderland Council PDF document on the "Seaburn Masterplan":
http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=11091&p=0&fsize=10Mb&ftype=Seaburn%20Masterplan.PDF

On Page 49 & 50 it states that Lowry Road will be widened and the rood between the Morrisions roundabout and Dykelands Road will be reduced in width.  There will also be more bus stops placed on Lowry Road which suggests that more services may use that road such as the E6, instead of only service 99.

Looking at the plans on pages 44-50, I would presume all traffic currently using the sea front will be diverted via Dykelands Road and Lowry Road thus creating a more pedestrianised feel to the area. 

A similar project happened in Whitley Bay which diverted traffic using the old Promenade in font of the Spanish City to new road which cuts behind it. To me, it looks like Sunderland Council are aiming for something similar.
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Michael   01 Mar 2015, 9:16 pm
The current work down Seaburn is really good, i hope they do something with the old fairground area and all the grass area behind it.

Still think they should knock down the Seaburn centre and pullman lodge... then re-build the Seaburn centre with improved facilities.

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idiot   02 Mar 2015, 12:26 am
Does anyone know what the steel structure is for opposite the Pullman and Seaburn Centre?
Michael   02 Mar 2015, 7:18 am
(02 Mar 2015, 12:26 am)idiot wrote Does anyone know what the steel structure is for opposite the Pullman and Seaburn Centre?

It's the Seaburn shelter, it's getting upgraded to a restaurant i think, with the toilets below finally getting a refurbishment, =). 

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idiot   02 Mar 2015, 2:33 pm
Thanks Smile
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Malarkey   20 Mar 2015, 6:51 pm
Has there been any further information on the New Bridge across the River Wear in Sunderland, as it looked like work has been started on the River Bank right next to the Retail Park on the Enterprise Park, along with the other side of the River at Pallion looking clear to make way for the Bridge.
Michael   20 Mar 2015, 6:53 pm
(20 Mar 2015, 6:51 pm)Malarkey wrote Has there been any further information on the New Bridge across the River Wear in Sunderland, as it looked like work has been started on the River Bank right next to the Retail Park on the Enterprise Park, along with the other side of the River at Pallion looking clear to make way for the Bridge.

Heard nothing =(

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Malarkey   20 Mar 2015, 6:58 pm
(20 Mar 2015, 6:53 pm)Michael wrote Heard nothing =(

Well anyway there something being done on the Enterprise Park side of the River yesterday.
Michael   20 Mar 2015, 6:59 pm
(20 Mar 2015, 6:58 pm)Malarkey wrote Well anyway there something being done on the Enterprise Park side of the River yesterday.

Looks like they're doing basic works first, which is good.

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Malarkey   20 Mar 2015, 7:02 pm
(20 Mar 2015, 6:59 pm)Michael wrote Looks like they're doing basic works first, which is good.

Looks like I have the point 2 point bang on for the Bridge, most recent article on the Bridge below.

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/busin...-1-7075779
Michael   23 Mar 2015, 7:38 pm
I found this online - Its a video on how they'll be building the new bridge. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4er2d49YB0

Seems a lot of work to be done before they even start it... like knocking buildings etc down

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Malarkey   23 Mar 2015, 8:52 pm
(23 Mar 2015, 7:38 pm)Michael wrote I found this online - Its a video on how they'll be building the new bridge. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4er2d49YB0

Seems a lot of work to be done before they even start it... like knocking buildings etc down
That looks awesome, quite surprised this video hasnt been attached to any News Articles.
Michael   23 Mar 2015, 9:12 pm
(23 Mar 2015, 8:52 pm)Malarkey wrote That looks awesome, quite surprised this video hasnt been attached to any News Articles.

Me too, should be decent when its done.

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Michael   24 Mar 2015, 9:54 pm
(24 Mar 2015, 9:25 pm)AIG20 wrote There will be road closures on Seaburn during the Easter Holidays, which will cause severe (possibly major) disruption to bus services E1,E2,E6,18,19,99 & 558; as well as disruption to the local businesses - that I assume would usually make more money during this period. Some bus services, such as service E1, may end up missing a big chunk of their usual route...

Image below is from the Sunderland Council Website:  

Oh thats gonna be fun!

I wonder if the roundabout closure is so they can remove it.. i think that was the plan, the one next to the old fairground.

Cheers for the update.

Least the 18/19 might run on time and not run early Wink

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idiot   24 Mar 2015, 10:43 pm
I've only ever witnessed the 19/19 run early once and that was today! 2 minutes early!

Every other time I go to get it, its averaging about 6 minutes late.
Michael   26 Mar 2015, 8:00 am
Dixy Chicken is opening in the city centre, next door to Open (the one which sells knifes and BB guns among other things)

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JakeSavage   27 Mar 2015, 8:47 am
Seaburn does indeed appear to be rather problematic: https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-servic...px?id=5060
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idiot   27 Mar 2015, 5:32 pm
Buses down Princes Ave? I struggle at times with my van...
Michael   27 Mar 2015, 5:35 pm
Oh dear, i can see LOTS of traffic build up and people panicking.

Also 


Temporary closure of Bedford Street in Sunderland City Centre - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-servic...px?id=5050 

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Malarkey   31 Mar 2015, 7:40 pm
Think Sunderland City Council need to sort out the amount of Buses serving Fawcett Street and Holmeside, I think personally think there is far too many, then you have normal traffic and a New College being Built in the area on top of that.
Michael   31 Mar 2015, 7:50 pm
I agree, the bus stops need sorting, to many buses stopping at the same bus stop.

Fawcett street is the worst...out of all the bus stops on that road, one stop only has the 9 stopping their.. so why not move the 9 to the stop where the 35 etc stop and move all the buses up 1 from the first stop.

Example:

So 12/33/33A etc up one to the 4/16 stop
4/16 to the current 3/13 stop
3/13 to the 35/36 etc stop
35/36 will move to the 9 stop
E1/2/3 etc will remain at the same stop.

Rest on the road will remain the same.. also means the 9 bus stop isn't wasted on one bus stop!

Means the first bus stop will become free and wont cause congestion...

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cbma06   31 Mar 2015, 8:33 pm
(31 Mar 2015, 7:50 pm)Michael wrote I agree, the bus stops need sorting, to many buses stopping at the same bus stop.

Fawcett street is the worst...out of all the bus stops on that road, one stop only has the 9 stopping their.. so why not move the 9 to the stop where the 35 etc stop and move all the buses up 1 from the first stop.

Example:

So 12/33/33A etc up one to the 4/16 stop
4/16 to the current 3/13 stop
3/13 to the 35/36 etc stop
35/36 will move to the 9 stop
E1/2/3 etc will remain at the same stop.

Rest on the road will remain the same.. also means the 9 bus stop isn't wasted on one bus stop!

Means the first bus stop will become free and wont cause congestion...

your example will just cause confusing to passengers, It depends which way the bus service goes when it leaves the city centre, service 9 goes to East Boldon etc..., the first bus stop on Fawcett Street is a bit busy, but when the Stagecoach service 20/8 goes back to its originally route when the Vaux bus stops reopen. only bus service that should stop at first stand on Fawcett Street should be the Docks service, the rest should use the old 10/11 stand and the 18 stand on Athenaeum street.


Malarkey   31 Mar 2015, 8:39 pm
(31 Mar 2015, 7:50 pm)Michael wrote I agree, the bus stops need sorting, to many buses stopping at the same bus stop.

Fawcett street is the worst...out of all the bus stops on that road, one stop only has the 9 stopping their.. so why not move the 9 to the stop where the 35 etc stop and move all the buses up 1 from the first stop.

Example:

So 12/33/33A etc up one to the 4/16 stop
4/16 to the current 3/13 stop
3/13 to the 35/36 etc stop
35/36 will move to the 9 stop
E1/2/3 etc will remain at the same stop.

Rest on the road will remain the same.. also means the 9 bus stop isn't wasted on one bus stop!

Means the first bus stop will become free and wont cause congestion...
I think the 2/2A and 39 should be moved to Stop on Borough Road outside The William Jameson/Winter Gardens when heading to Silksworth/Doxford alongside the Stagecoach Services 10/11, Those 3 Stops outside Wilkinsons are the problematic ones, the others from Wilkinsons on wards up Fawcett Street are fine, although I have often wondered why the 20/20A(Old 35 Series) and E1/E2/E6 serve two Stops on Fawcett Street.
Michael   31 Mar 2015, 8:39 pm
(31 Mar 2015, 8:33 pm)cbma06 wrote your example will just cause confusing to passengers, It depends which way the bus service goes when it leaves the city centre, service 9 goes to East Boldon etc..., the first bus stop on Fawcett Street is a bit busy, but when the Stagecoach service 20/8 goes back to its originally route when the Vaux bus stops reopen. only bus service that should stop at first stand on Fawcett Street should be the Docks service, the rest should use the old 10/11 stand and the 18 stand on Athenaeum street.

The question is when will the Vaux bus stops will reopen... the area was supposed to of being completed by the end of February... 

Hopefully once it is open the road won't be as congested.

Holmeside though, nothing much anyone can do, unless they add extra bus stops, and that won't happen, i think every stop along their has more than 5 services stopping their... 

The new square looks really nice, looking forward to seeing it completely finished, rumours have it a hotel is gonna built next to the Londonderry and hopefully the bridge's will build on from where the old leisure centre used to be, getting rid of new look etc with it.

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Michael   31 Mar 2015, 8:45 pm
(31 Mar 2015, 8:39 pm)Malarkey wrote I think the 2/2A and 39 should be moved to Stop on Borough Road outside The William Jameson/Winter Gardens when heading to Silksworth/Doxford alongside the Stagecoach Services 10/11, Those 3 Stops outside Wilkinsons are the problematic ones, the others from Wilkinsons on wards up Fawcett Street are fine, although I have often wondered why the 20/20A(Old 35 Series) and E1/E2/E6 serve two Stops on Fawcett Street.

The 35/35A/36 and 56 now serve 2 stops on Fawcett Street.

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cbma06   31 Mar 2015, 8:54 pm
(31 Mar 2015, 8:39 pm)Malarkey wrote I think the 2/2A and 39 should be moved to Stop on Borough Road outside The William Jameson/Winter Gardens when heading to Silksworth/Doxford alongside the Stagecoach Services 10/11, Those 3 Stops outside Wilkinsons are the problematic ones, the others from Wilkinsons on wards up Fawcett Street are fine, although I have often wondered why the 20/20A(Old 35 Series) and E1/E2/E6 serve two Stops on Fawcett Street.

Originally service 23 (24/25) used to stop at the very first bus stop at top of Fawcett street and the northerns 35 (535/536) used to be where the 56 stops first on Fawcett street. Northern started to stop their 535/536 at top of Fawcett street to try and grab some fare paying passengers from service 23 for Dene Estate and then Busways ran the 23 (24/25) from the Northern 535/536 bus stand half way down Fawcett Street, and that's how those bus services stop twice on Fawcett street.

I think GNE using the first stand on Fawcett street for their 2/2A and 39 to try and grab paassengers from busways service 12.


cbma06   31 Mar 2015, 8:57 pm
(31 Mar 2015, 8:45 pm)Michael wrote The 35/35A/36 and 56 now serve 2 stops on Fawcett Street.

The 35/35A/36, 20/20A etc.. also stops twice on John Street.


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