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26 Jul 2015, 9:58 am #861
End of short X21.
PB0002032/475 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stakeford and Bedlington Station given service number 821 effective from 06-Sep-2015.
omnicity4659
26 Jul 2015, 9:58 am #861

End of short X21.
PB0002032/475 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stakeford and Bedlington Station given service number 821 effective from 06-Sep-2015.

BusLoverMum



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26 Jul 2015, 8:11 pm #862
(26 Jul 2015, 5:19 am)Dan You're right - a normal 3G or 4G SIM card is used and, like a mobile network, the bus operators pay for a tariff of x amount of data per vehicle on a one-month rolling basis. If they go over this amount of data, the operator will incur additional charges.

EE has better coverage than Three on the A19, so it at least allows me to connect to the Internet while I am using GNE's X9/X10 services!

Thanks, that makes complete sense and explains why it's not worth the bother when I do get a WiFi connection. Might be more useful if I did any city travel.

Have recently moved my data from EE to three, as it happens, as the coverage is so much better, particularly in and just North of Durham, and there's a lot less timing out happening. I have noticed that I often lose signal between Washington and Sunderland, though. Both disappear for a while just south of Teesside, on the A19. I wouldn't bother with EE at all, but it's the only provider with a steady 3G signal in my village.
BusLoverMum
26 Jul 2015, 8:11 pm #862

(26 Jul 2015, 5:19 am)Dan You're right - a normal 3G or 4G SIM card is used and, like a mobile network, the bus operators pay for a tariff of x amount of data per vehicle on a one-month rolling basis. If they go over this amount of data, the operator will incur additional charges.

EE has better coverage than Three on the A19, so it at least allows me to connect to the Internet while I am using GNE's X9/X10 services!

Thanks, that makes complete sense and explains why it's not worth the bother when I do get a WiFi connection. Might be more useful if I did any city travel.

Have recently moved my data from EE to three, as it happens, as the coverage is so much better, particularly in and just North of Durham, and there's a lot less timing out happening. I have noticed that I often lose signal between Washington and Sunderland, though. Both disappear for a while just south of Teesside, on the A19. I wouldn't bother with EE at all, but it's the only provider with a steady 3G signal in my village.

L469 YVK



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26 Jul 2015, 8:49 pm #863
(26 Jul 2015, 9:58 am)GX03 SVC End of short X21.
PB0002032/475 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stakeford and Bedlington Station given service number 821 effective from 06-Sep-2015.

Thought that was put in place to assist with reliability? Adding more time onto the normal X21 isn't going to help.
L469 YVK
26 Jul 2015, 8:49 pm #863

(26 Jul 2015, 9:58 am)GX03 SVC End of short X21.
PB0002032/475 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stakeford and Bedlington Station given service number 821 effective from 06-Sep-2015.

Thought that was put in place to assist with reliability? Adding more time onto the normal X21 isn't going to help.

mb134



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26 Jul 2015, 9:08 pm #864
(26 Jul 2015, 8:49 pm)DaveyBowyer Thought that was put in place to assist with reliability? Adding more time onto the normal X21 isn't going to help.

They might need the vehicle that was used on it though? 

Also, the 821 was only really for school children travelling between Stakeford and Bedlington Station, so if you add an additional 3 minutes into the timetable there, it should be alright. (That X21 run has about 9 minutes to stand at Ashington bus station if I recall correctly)

(26 Jul 2015, 8:49 pm)DaveyBowyer Thought that was put in place to assist with reliability? Adding more time onto the normal X21 isn't going to help.

They might need the vehicle that was used on it though? 

Also, the 821 was only really for school children travelling between Stakeford and Bedlington Station, so if you add an additional 3 minutes into the timetable there, it should be alright. (That X21 run has about 9 minutes to stand at Ashington bus station if I recall correctly)
Edited 26 Jul 2015, 9:08 pm by mb134.
mb134
26 Jul 2015, 9:08 pm #864

(26 Jul 2015, 8:49 pm)DaveyBowyer Thought that was put in place to assist with reliability? Adding more time onto the normal X21 isn't going to help.

They might need the vehicle that was used on it though? 

Also, the 821 was only really for school children travelling between Stakeford and Bedlington Station, so if you add an additional 3 minutes into the timetable there, it should be alright. (That X21 run has about 9 minutes to stand at Ashington bus station if I recall correctly)

(26 Jul 2015, 8:49 pm)DaveyBowyer Thought that was put in place to assist with reliability? Adding more time onto the normal X21 isn't going to help.

They might need the vehicle that was used on it though? 

Also, the 821 was only really for school children travelling between Stakeford and Bedlington Station, so if you add an additional 3 minutes into the timetable there, it should be alright. (That X21 run has about 9 minutes to stand at Ashington bus station if I recall correctly)

Cock Robin



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27 Jul 2015, 5:23 pm #865
(26 Jul 2015, 8:11 pm)BusLoverMum Thanks, that makes complete sense and explains why it's not worth the bother when I do get a WiFi connection. Might be more useful if I did any city travel.

Have recently moved my data from EE to three, as it happens, as the coverage is so much better, particularly in and just North of Durham, and there's a lot less timing out happening. I have noticed that I often lose signal between Washington and Sunderland, though. Both disappear for a while just south of Teesside, on the A19. I wouldn't bother with EE at all, but it's the only provider with a steady 3G signal in my village.

I've had no EE signal at home for a few months up to a couple of weeks ago when it seems to have returned! Apparently they took a 2G mast down in the area in November (nice of them!), so why it gradually got worse after that I don't know, nor why it has now returned!
Cock Robin
27 Jul 2015, 5:23 pm #865

(26 Jul 2015, 8:11 pm)BusLoverMum Thanks, that makes complete sense and explains why it's not worth the bother when I do get a WiFi connection. Might be more useful if I did any city travel.

Have recently moved my data from EE to three, as it happens, as the coverage is so much better, particularly in and just North of Durham, and there's a lot less timing out happening. I have noticed that I often lose signal between Washington and Sunderland, though. Both disappear for a while just south of Teesside, on the A19. I wouldn't bother with EE at all, but it's the only provider with a steady 3G signal in my village.

I've had no EE signal at home for a few months up to a couple of weeks ago when it seems to have returned! Apparently they took a 2G mast down in the area in November (nice of them!), so why it gradually got worse after that I don't know, nor why it has now returned!

27 Jul 2015, 5:39 pm #866
(27 Jul 2015, 5:23 pm)Cock Robin I've had no EE signal at home for a few months up to a couple of weeks ago when it seems to have returned! Apparently they took a 2G mast down in the area in November (nice of them!), so why it gradually got worse after that I don't know, nor why it has now returned!

EE is a crap network. Nazi bullying "customer service" advisors trying to sell you broadband.  Dodgy
omnicity4659
27 Jul 2015, 5:39 pm #866

(27 Jul 2015, 5:23 pm)Cock Robin I've had no EE signal at home for a few months up to a couple of weeks ago when it seems to have returned! Apparently they took a 2G mast down in the area in November (nice of them!), so why it gradually got worse after that I don't know, nor why it has now returned!

EE is a crap network. Nazi bullying "customer service" advisors trying to sell you broadband.  Dodgy

27 Jul 2015, 5:41 pm #867
(26 Jul 2015, 8:49 pm)DaveyBowyer Thought that was put in place to assist with reliability? Adding more time onto the normal X21 isn't going to help.

The service is usually operated by a B7TL. Arriva Ashington may have gained another scholars contract.
omnicity4659
27 Jul 2015, 5:41 pm #867

(26 Jul 2015, 8:49 pm)DaveyBowyer Thought that was put in place to assist with reliability? Adding more time onto the normal X21 isn't going to help.

The service is usually operated by a B7TL. Arriva Ashington may have gained another scholars contract.

mb134



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27 Jul 2015, 5:42 pm #868
(27 Jul 2015, 5:41 pm)GX03 SVC The service is usually operated by a B7TL. Arriva Ashington may have gained another scholars contract.

Or 7518... Wink
mb134
27 Jul 2015, 5:42 pm #868

(27 Jul 2015, 5:41 pm)GX03 SVC The service is usually operated by a B7TL. Arriva Ashington may have gained another scholars contract.

Or 7518... Wink

27 Jul 2015, 5:42 pm #869
(26 Jul 2015, 9:08 pm)mb134 travelling between Stakeford and Bedlington Station

Lazy buggers. Could walk that in 30 or 40 minutes.

(27 Jul 2015, 5:42 pm)mb134 Or 7518... Wink

Was a B7TL before they refurbished 7518...  Wink
Edited 27 Jul 2015, 5:43 pm by omnicity4659.
omnicity4659
27 Jul 2015, 5:42 pm #869

(26 Jul 2015, 9:08 pm)mb134 travelling between Stakeford and Bedlington Station

Lazy buggers. Could walk that in 30 or 40 minutes.

(27 Jul 2015, 5:42 pm)mb134 Or 7518... Wink

Was a B7TL before they refurbished 7518...  Wink

mb134



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27 Jul 2015, 5:43 pm #870
(27 Jul 2015, 5:42 pm)GX03 SVC Lazy buggers. Could walk that in 30 or 40 minutes.

But would you want to, in the middle of winter, when it's chucking it down, and freezing?
mb134
27 Jul 2015, 5:43 pm #870

(27 Jul 2015, 5:42 pm)GX03 SVC Lazy buggers. Could walk that in 30 or 40 minutes.

But would you want to, in the middle of winter, when it's chucking it down, and freezing?

27 Jul 2015, 5:45 pm #871
(27 Jul 2015, 5:43 pm)mb134 But would you want to, in the middle of winter, when it's chucking it down, and freezing?

Yes. 7518 has no legroom whatsoever, I'd rather be stretching my legs rather than spending 5 minutes with my knees above my head.
omnicity4659
27 Jul 2015, 5:45 pm #871

(27 Jul 2015, 5:43 pm)mb134 But would you want to, in the middle of winter, when it's chucking it down, and freezing?

Yes. 7518 has no legroom whatsoever, I'd rather be stretching my legs rather than spending 5 minutes with my knees above my head.

27 Jul 2015, 7:53 pm #872
Hi.
Does anyone have info on changes to the 57. I have a number of worries neighbours in Nelson Village who a terrified about losing their bus.

I have been yold that the 58 will serve the village, linking it with the town centre and new hospital site. If anyone has any info it is hugely appreciated.

Furthermore, my own opinion is that Arriva have desimated what was a solid network of longstanding routes. As a very frequent traveller if many years, some changes have seemed ludicrous almost every time.
A look through VOSA certainly tells a tale!

Thank you for putting up with me on my first post.

Cheers

Sorry for the spelling...using my phone

Mark
Edited 27 Jul 2015, 7:53 pm by marklewins.
marklewins
27 Jul 2015, 7:53 pm #872

Hi.
Does anyone have info on changes to the 57. I have a number of worries neighbours in Nelson Village who a terrified about losing their bus.

I have been yold that the 58 will serve the village, linking it with the town centre and new hospital site. If anyone has any info it is hugely appreciated.

Furthermore, my own opinion is that Arriva have desimated what was a solid network of longstanding routes. As a very frequent traveller if many years, some changes have seemed ludicrous almost every time.
A look through VOSA certainly tells a tale!

Thank you for putting up with me on my first post.

Cheers


Sorry for the spelling...using my phone

Mark

Tom



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27 Jul 2015, 7:55 pm #873
Hi,

Yes the 58 will be serving Nelson Village, and will be operating to Cramlington, but I'm unsure how frequent the service will be. As the service will also be serving Beacon Lea it could be a two hourly service as they may need to alternate, e.g one goes to Nelson Village, and another to Beacon Lea.

Hope this helps.
Tom
27 Jul 2015, 7:55 pm #873

Hi,

Yes the 58 will be serving Nelson Village, and will be operating to Cramlington, but I'm unsure how frequent the service will be. As the service will also be serving Beacon Lea it could be a two hourly service as they may need to alternate, e.g one goes to Nelson Village, and another to Beacon Lea.

Hope this helps.

27 Jul 2015, 8:14 pm #874
Tom

Thank you for that. My word from Northumberland county council was that the 58 will essentially be the old 43A (East Hartford to Cramlington section),C1 (Nelson Village to Eastfield Lea) & C2 (Beacon Hill to Collingwood Grange) combined into a single service. Council said Arriva seem to be playing with the timetable as it is not yet finalised.

The option is simple. Return the old C1 with extension to the new hospital, likewise for the C2. Number them as such too. The current C3 can stay as is.

Just my thought.

Cheers
marklewins
27 Jul 2015, 8:14 pm #874

Tom

Thank you for that. My word from Northumberland county council was that the 58 will essentially be the old 43A (East Hartford to Cramlington section),C1 (Nelson Village to Eastfield Lea) & C2 (Beacon Hill to Collingwood Grange) combined into a single service. Council said Arriva seem to be playing with the timetable as it is not yet finalised.

The option is simple. Return the old C1 with extension to the new hospital, likewise for the C2. Number them as such too. The current C3 can stay as is.

Just my thought.

Cheers

Tom



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27 Jul 2015, 8:19 pm #875
(27 Jul 2015, 8:14 pm)marklewins Tom

Thank you for that. My word from Northumberland county council was that the 58 will essentially be the old 43A (East Hartford to Cramlington section),C1 (Nelson Village to Eastfield Lea) & C2 (Beacon Hill to Collingwood Grange) combined into a single service. Council said Arriva seem to be playing with the timetable as it is not yet finalised.

The option is simple. Return the old C1 with extension to the new hospital, likewise for the C2. Number them as such too. The current C3 can stay as is.

Just my thought.

Cheers

I'd imagine you'll find out soon when the timetables are released, I don't think it was very clear in the consultation what they were doing.
Tom
27 Jul 2015, 8:19 pm #875

(27 Jul 2015, 8:14 pm)marklewins Tom

Thank you for that. My word from Northumberland county council was that the 58 will essentially be the old 43A (East Hartford to Cramlington section),C1 (Nelson Village to Eastfield Lea) & C2 (Beacon Hill to Collingwood Grange) combined into a single service. Council said Arriva seem to be playing with the timetable as it is not yet finalised.

The option is simple. Return the old C1 with extension to the new hospital, likewise for the C2. Number them as such too. The current C3 can stay as is.

Just my thought.

Cheers

I'd imagine you'll find out soon when the timetables are released, I don't think it was very clear in the consultation what they were doing.

Tom



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29 Jul 2015, 3:40 pm #877
Happy that the 20 changes are going ahead!

Looks like the 57 will terminate at Ashington like I suggested too.
Tom
29 Jul 2015, 3:40 pm #877

Happy that the 20 changes are going ahead!

Looks like the 57 will terminate at Ashington like I suggested too.

mb134



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29 Jul 2015, 3:53 pm #878
(29 Jul 2015, 3:40 pm)Tom Happy that the 20 changes are going ahead!

Looks like the 57 will terminate at Ashington like I suggested too.

Love the X20 changes, wonder if the frequency between Ashington and Newcastle will increase? 

Like the 43 changes as well, I hope that if proven popular, it will increase to half hourly between Cramlington and Morpeth, think there will be a lot of usage. (I imagine the service will be quicker than the 2 between Bedlington and Morpeth, and will provide excellent links from Bedlington to Cramlington)
mb134
29 Jul 2015, 3:53 pm #878

(29 Jul 2015, 3:40 pm)Tom Happy that the 20 changes are going ahead!

Looks like the 57 will terminate at Ashington like I suggested too.

Love the X20 changes, wonder if the frequency between Ashington and Newcastle will increase? 

Like the 43 changes as well, I hope that if proven popular, it will increase to half hourly between Cramlington and Morpeth, think there will be a lot of usage. (I imagine the service will be quicker than the 2 between Bedlington and Morpeth, and will provide excellent links from Bedlington to Cramlington)

29 Jul 2015, 4:28 pm #879
Can I just add that the 19% of people who wanted the X13 to miss out Sandringham Drive, Blyth may little or seldom use the bus at all. I wonder if the 70(something)% was classed as they wanted the route to miss Sandringham Drive?

The X20 route change in Ashington now leaves Hawthorn Road users with a lengthy walk to Alexandra Road, Ashington Bus Station or Milburn Road for Newcastle services. I understand that the 57 got curtailed at Ashington, but why can't the council have service 30 use Alexandra Road and X20 revert back to Hawthorn Road?
omnicity4659
29 Jul 2015, 4:28 pm #879

Can I just add that the 19% of people who wanted the X13 to miss out Sandringham Drive, Blyth may little or seldom use the bus at all. I wonder if the 70(something)% was classed as they wanted the route to miss Sandringham Drive?

The X20 route change in Ashington now leaves Hawthorn Road users with a lengthy walk to Alexandra Road, Ashington Bus Station or Milburn Road for Newcastle services. I understand that the 57 got curtailed at Ashington, but why can't the council have service 30 use Alexandra Road and X20 revert back to Hawthorn Road?

Tom



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29 Jul 2015, 4:44 pm #880
I don't understand how the 58 will work either.

Will it be: Nelson Village-Beacon Lea-Cramlington then either Hollywell or New Hartley?
Tom
29 Jul 2015, 4:44 pm #880

I don't understand how the 58 will work either.

Will it be: Nelson Village-Beacon Lea-Cramlington then either Hollywell or New Hartley?

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