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citaro5284

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13 Jul 2016, 3:55 pm #1,541

(13 Jul 2016, 3:47 pm)L469 YVK The two Coast Road services will be an interesting change considering that the Monday to Saturday daytime 309 / 310 services will run 2 minutes ahead of the 306 / 308 from the W/C 25th July between Station Road / Newcastle as well as running almost bang in the middle during Sunday daytimes. Can't see them changing either the 306 / 308 for reliability reasons unless an extra bus or two could be sourced.

I will put money on them putting them in front of the 309/310 as well. Of course, with the roadworks at the Silverlink junction, they could be putting in some service changes to combat the delays which are going to happen.

citaro5284

13 Jul 2016, 3:55 pm #1,541

(13 Jul 2016, 3:47 pm)L469 YVK The two Coast Road services will be an interesting change considering that the Monday to Saturday daytime 309 / 310 services will run 2 minutes ahead of the 306 / 308 from the W/C 25th July between Station Road / Newcastle as well as running almost bang in the middle during Sunday daytimes. Can't see them changing either the 306 / 308 for reliability reasons unless an extra bus or two could be sourced.

L469 YVK

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13 Jul 2016, 3:59 pm #1,542

(13 Jul 2016, 3:52 pm)Tom They need to sort the 308 out especially as that is the worst and the 306 and 308 always end up running together so the 7/8 minute frequency between them never works out

Well of course the 308 struggle with only a PVR of 9 considering that it's probably the second most profitable / well used service in the North East just sitting behind the Durham 'Angel' runs (excluding any Busways registered services). The 308 either needs another bus added or a parallel express running in a similar way to the way that the Angel / Castles Express work together.

L469 YVK

13 Jul 2016, 3:59 pm #1,542

(13 Jul 2016, 3:52 pm)Tom They need to sort the 308 out especially as that is the worst and the 306 and 308 always end up running together so the 7/8 minute frequency between them never works out

L469 YVK

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13 Jul 2016, 4:06 pm #1,543

(13 Jul 2016, 3:55 pm)citaro5284 I will put money on them putting them in front of the 309/310 as well. Of course, with the roadworks at the Silverlink junction, they could be putting in some service changes to combat the delays which are going to happen.

They could do that but bearing in mind that Arriva have a strong coridoor between Billy Mill / Willington Square including St Peters & Holy Cross for the 308, the revenue gained between Station Road / Newcastle is like the icing on the cake of the revenue gained in their monopoly areas. Arriva may well time them to sit bang in the middle or at worst, in front. But at GNEs advantage, GNE 'could' fill in the gap of an express service with some double deckers (or single deckers) either sourced from within GNE or with more cascades from B&H if any available.

L469 YVK

13 Jul 2016, 4:06 pm #1,543

(13 Jul 2016, 3:55 pm)citaro5284 I will put money on them putting them in front of the 309/310 as well. Of course, with the roadworks at the Silverlink junction, they could be putting in some service changes to combat the delays which are going to happen.

Shrek

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13 Jul 2016, 8:13 pm #1,544

The changes on 44 and 45 could be returning the evening and sunday services to loop as the Commercial department have said they would look to change it back asap after complaints after they stopped it.

Shrek

13 Jul 2016, 8:13 pm #1,544

Kuyoyo

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16 Jul 2016, 5:56 pm #1,545

(17 Jun 2016, 10:58 am)Cock Robin Good news.

And we have some details (the day before the changes):

Unchanged timetable to the revised 81 daytime route - reinstating Sunday services to parts of Mersey Road and Low Farm Drive
Will operate as the 81a and will still interwork with the 3 (so the routing previously mentioned regarding the 3 in Redcar can now be disregarded)

Kuyoyo

16 Jul 2016, 5:56 pm #1,545

(17 Jun 2016, 10:58 am)Cock Robin Good news.

And we have some details (the day before the changes):

Unchanged timetable to the revised 81 daytime route - reinstating Sunday services to parts of Mersey Road and Low Farm Drive
Will operate as the 81a and will still interwork with the 3 (so the routing previously mentioned regarding the 3 in Redcar can now be disregarded)

Jimmi

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01 Aug 2016, 12:02 pm #1,546

On VOSA today, the last one is a shock!

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PB0002032/159 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Newbiggin given service number X21 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/194 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Ashington given service number X22 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/266 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Ashington and North Shields given service number 57/57A effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/333 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Thropton and Morpeth given service number X14 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/336 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Morpeth given service number 44 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/340 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Cramlington and North Shields given service number 53 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/459 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Cramlington and Newcastle given service number 52 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/498 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Morpeth and Newcastle given service number X18 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/499 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Alnwick and Morpeth given service number X18 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/500 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Seahouses and Alnwick given service number X18 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/502 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Seahouses and Alnwick given service number 418 effective from 25-Sep-2016.

PB0002032/523 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Berwick and Seahouses given service number X18 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

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Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Alnwick Barresdale
Finish Point: Coquet Enterprise Park
Via:
Service Number: 472
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 25-SEP-2016
Other Details: Daily, two hourly 

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Jimmi

01 Aug 2016, 12:02 pm #1,546

On VOSA today, the last one is a shock!

PHP 
PB0002032/159 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Newbiggin given service number X21 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/194 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Ashington given service number X22 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/266 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Ashington and North Shields given service number 57/57A effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/333 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Thropton and Morpeth given service number X14 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/336 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Morpeth given service number 44 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/340 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Cramlington and North Shields given service number 53 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/459 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Cramlington and Newcastle given service number 52 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/498 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Morpeth and Newcastle given service number X18 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/499 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Alnwick and Morpeth given service number X18 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/500 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Seahouses and Alnwick given service number X18 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/502 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Seahouses and Alnwick given service number 418 effective from 25-Sep-2016.

PB0002032/523 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Berwick and Seahouses given service number X18 effective from 25-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002032/528 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Alnwick Barresdale
Finish Point: Coquet Enterprise Park
Via:
Service Number: 472
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 25-SEP-2016
Other Details: Daily, two hourly 

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omnicity4659

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01 Aug 2016, 3:26 pm #1,547

They've probably got the contract for the 472. Arriva and Travelsure already accept each other's tickets so there won't be a big difference for passengers.

omnicity4659

01 Aug 2016, 3:26 pm #1,547

They've probably got the contract for the 472. Arriva and Travelsure already accept each other's tickets so there won't be a big difference for passengers.

Cobalt271

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01 Aug 2016, 5:39 pm #1,548

(01 Aug 2016, 3:26 pm)GX03 SVC They've probably got the contract for the 472. Arriva and Travelsure already accept each other's tickets so there won't be a big difference for passengers.

I had it on good authority that Travelsure's days doing the 472 were over, however I had no proof so didn't want to post anything. Surely this means more Solo's/MPDs for Ashington?

Cobalt271

01 Aug 2016, 5:39 pm #1,548

(01 Aug 2016, 3:26 pm)GX03 SVC They've probably got the contract for the 472. Arriva and Travelsure already accept each other's tickets so there won't be a big difference for passengers.

I had it on good authority that Travelsure's days doing the 472 were over, however I had no proof so didn't want to post anything. Surely this means more Solo's/MPDs for Ashington?

omnicity4659

5,592

01 Aug 2016, 5:56 pm #1,549

(01 Aug 2016, 5:39 pm)Cobalt271 I had it on good authority that Travelsure's days doing the 472 were over, however I had no proof so didn't want to post anything. Surely this means more Solo's/MPDs for Ashington?

Only need one Solo for the 57s, so I see just a MPD or one of the Solos being used.

PVR will be 1 for the 472 anyway.

omnicity4659

01 Aug 2016, 5:56 pm #1,549

(01 Aug 2016, 5:39 pm)Cobalt271 I had it on good authority that Travelsure's days doing the 472 were over, however I had no proof so didn't want to post anything. Surely this means more Solo's/MPDs for Ashington?

Only need one Solo for the 57s, so I see just a MPD or one of the Solos being used.

PVR will be 1 for the 472 anyway.

South Tyne Lad

1,777

01 Aug 2016, 6:58 pm #1,550

(01 Aug 2016, 5:56 pm)GX03 SVC Only need one Solo for the 57s, so I see just a MPD or one of the Solos being used.

PVR will be 1 for the 472 anyway.

Would it not be more cost effective to operate the service from the Alnwick outstation? Considering it starts and finishes in Alnwick in the morning/evening.

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South Tyne Lad

01 Aug 2016, 6:58 pm #1,550

(01 Aug 2016, 5:56 pm)GX03 SVC Only need one Solo for the 57s, so I see just a MPD or one of the Solos being used.

PVR will be 1 for the 472 anyway.

Would it not be more cost effective to operate the service from the Alnwick outstation? Considering it starts and finishes in Alnwick in the morning/evening.

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passenger_10

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03 Aug 2016, 8:59 pm #1,551

(01 Aug 2016, 5:56 pm)GX03 SVC Only need one Solo for the 57s, so I see just a MPD or one of the Solos being used.

PVR will be 1 for the 472 anyway.

In the most recent timetable I can see it looks like the current PVR is 2 buses?

A reduction to one wouldn't surprise me however given NCC's desire to save money.

Edited 03 Aug 2016, 8:59 pm by passenger_10.

passenger_10

03 Aug 2016, 8:59 pm #1,551

(01 Aug 2016, 5:56 pm)GX03 SVC Only need one Solo for the 57s, so I see just a MPD or one of the Solos being used.

PVR will be 1 for the 472 anyway.

In the most recent timetable I can see it looks like the current PVR is 2 buses?

A reduction to one wouldn't surprise me however given NCC's desire to save money.

mb134

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03 Aug 2016, 9:48 pm #1,552

(03 Aug 2016, 8:59 pm)passenger_10 In the most recent timetable I can see it looks like the current PVR is 2 buses?

A reduction to one wouldn't surprise me however given NCC's desire to save money.

Wouldn't be as much of a need to save money if they weren't buying shopping centres for £78m...

mb134

03 Aug 2016, 9:48 pm #1,552

(03 Aug 2016, 8:59 pm)passenger_10 In the most recent timetable I can see it looks like the current PVR is 2 buses?

A reduction to one wouldn't surprise me however given NCC's desire to save money.

Wouldn't be as much of a need to save money if they weren't buying shopping centres for £78m...

Jimmi

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05 Aug 2016, 3:32 pm #1,553

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Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Berwick and Alnwick given service number X15 effective from 01-Aug-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

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Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Durham and Esh Winning given service number 43 effective from 21-Aug-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

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Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Stanhope and Durham given service number 46 effective from 21-Aug-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

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Jimmi

05 Aug 2016, 3:32 pm #1,553

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omnicity4659

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05 Aug 2016, 5:05 pm #1,554

(03 Aug 2016, 8:59 pm)passenger_10 In the most recent timetable I can see it looks like the current PVR is 2 buses?

A reduction to one wouldn't surprise me however given NCC's desire to save money.

Service will run every 2 hours, therefore only one vehicle is required.

omnicity4659

05 Aug 2016, 5:05 pm #1,554

(03 Aug 2016, 8:59 pm)passenger_10 In the most recent timetable I can see it looks like the current PVR is 2 buses?

A reduction to one wouldn't surprise me however given NCC's desire to save money.

Service will run every 2 hours, therefore only one vehicle is required.

Jimmi

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10 Aug 2016, 11:50 am #1,555

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Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Berwick and Seahouses given service number 418 effective from 25-Sep-2016.

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10 Aug 2016, 11:50 am #1,555

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L469 YVK

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11 Aug 2016, 7:49 pm #1,556

Any news on the 4th September changes?

L469 YVK

11 Aug 2016, 7:49 pm #1,556

Any news on the 4th September changes?

Michael

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12 Aug 2016, 1:47 pm #1,557

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12 Aug 2016, 1:47 pm #1,557

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15 Aug 2016, 3:46 pm #1,558

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15 Aug 2016, 3:46 pm #1,558

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Jimmi

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16 Aug 2016, 1:36 pm #1,559

New timetables for services in County Durham from September 4th can be found on this page: http://www.cartogold.co.uk/durham/

Will normal passengers be able to use ED1/ED2/ED3 and service 870?

Also on that page, there is some temporary timetables for Durham services 43, 46, 48 and 49/49A from August 28th due to roadworks at Nevilles Cross.

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Jimmi

16 Aug 2016, 1:36 pm #1,559

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peter

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16 Aug 2016, 5:58 pm #1,560

(16 Aug 2016, 1:36 pm)Jimmi New timetables for services in County Durham from September 4th can be found on this page: http://www.cartogold.co.uk/durham/

Will normal passengers be able to use ED1/ED2/ED3 and service 870?

Also on that page, there is some temporary timetables for Durham services 43, 46, 48 and 49/49A from August 28th due to roadworks at Nevilles Cross.

A press release regarding temporary revisions to services 6, 43, 46, 48, 49/49A, 56, 57/57A & X12 due to roadworks at both Neville's Cross and Leazes Bowl can be found here.

peter

16 Aug 2016, 5:58 pm #1,560

(16 Aug 2016, 1:36 pm)Jimmi New timetables for services in County Durham from September 4th can be found on this page: http://www.cartogold.co.uk/durham/

Will normal passengers be able to use ED1/ED2/ED3 and service 870?

Also on that page, there is some temporary timetables for Durham services 43, 46, 48 and 49/49A from August 28th due to roadworks at Nevilles Cross.

A press release regarding temporary revisions to services 6, 43, 46, 48, 49/49A, 56, 57/57A & X12 due to roadworks at both Neville's Cross and Leazes Bowl can be found here.

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