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Dan

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01 Nov 2016, 4:29 pm #1,701

(01 Nov 2016, 4:20 pm)GuyParkRoyal Here is one of the branded vehicles (7427).

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gpr_bus_ph...ed-public/

Just me that doesn't understand why there are so many different variations of the MAX livery?

What's wrong with the livery design used at Blyth on the X10/X11? I much prefer that to the version displayed on 7427.

Arriva North East: 7617 / NK61EBF by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

Dan

01 Nov 2016, 4:29 pm #1,701

(01 Nov 2016, 4:20 pm)GuyParkRoyal Here is one of the branded vehicles (7427).

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gpr_bus_ph...ed-public/

Arriva North East: 7617 / NK61EBF by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

GuyParkRoyal

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01 Nov 2016, 4:38 pm #1,702

(01 Nov 2016, 4:29 pm)Dan Just me that doesn't understand why there are so many different variations of the MAX livery?

What's wrong with the livery design used at Blyth on the X10/X11? I much prefer that to the version displayed on 7427.

Arriva North East: 7617 / NK61EBF by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

I agree the livery on 7617 does look better the problem with 7427 is the route information is too far towards the rear of the bus. Not only was the route information less easy on the eye but putting the details next to the wheel arch means it will get covered in dirt spray from the wheels.

It might help deliver a consistent branding if Arriva used a quality check list and diagram for applying branding similar to those used by other operators.

Edited 01 Nov 2016, 4:44 pm by GuyParkRoyal.

GuyParkRoyal

01 Nov 2016, 4:38 pm #1,702

(01 Nov 2016, 4:29 pm)Dan Just me that doesn't understand why there are so many different variations of the MAX livery?

What's wrong with the livery design used at Blyth on the X10/X11? I much prefer that to the version displayed on 7427.

Arriva North East: 7617 / NK61EBF by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

cbma06

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01 Nov 2016, 6:34 pm #1,703

Just been picking up the timetables for service X21 and X22, both timetables are seperate than both into one timetable leaflet

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cbma06

01 Nov 2016, 6:34 pm #1,703

Just been picking up the timetables for service X21 and X22, both timetables are seperate than both into one timetable leaflet

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Dan

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01 Nov 2016, 6:51 pm #1,704

(01 Nov 2016, 4:38 pm)GuyParkRoyal I agree the livery on 7617 does look better the problem with 7427 is the route information is too far towards the rear of the bus. Not only was the route information less easy on the eye but putting the details next to the wheel arch means it will get covered in dirt spray from the wheels.

It might help deliver a consistent branding if Arriva used a quality check list and diagram for applying branding similar to those used by other operators.

Yes, and we are fast approaching 'black bus' season!

Launch a new brand and have a substantial amount of the route information covered by muck and dirt.

I am really surprised that there are so many variations of the MAX livery. Wasn't it produced by Best Impressions? I know they provide branding guides as part of their service...

Dan

01 Nov 2016, 6:51 pm #1,704

(01 Nov 2016, 4:38 pm)GuyParkRoyal I agree the livery on 7617 does look better the problem with 7427 is the route information is too far towards the rear of the bus. Not only was the route information less easy on the eye but putting the details next to the wheel arch means it will get covered in dirt spray from the wheels.

It might help deliver a consistent branding if Arriva used a quality check list and diagram for applying branding similar to those used by other operators.

Jimmi

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01 Nov 2016, 6:52 pm #1,705

(01 Nov 2016, 6:34 pm)cbma06 Just been picking up the timetables for service X21 and X22, both timetables are seperate than both into one timetable leaflet

Yeah, I've picked up some copies of the X21, X22 timetables the other day. Think there is a page where it gives you the X21 and X22 times between Peterlee and Sedgefield in the back of the leaflet.

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Jimmi

01 Nov 2016, 6:52 pm #1,705

(01 Nov 2016, 6:34 pm)cbma06 Just been picking up the timetables for service X21 and X22, both timetables are seperate than both into one timetable leaflet

Yeah, I've picked up some copies of the X21, X22 timetables the other day. Think there is a page where it gives you the X21 and X22 times between Peterlee and Sedgefield in the back of the leaflet.

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omnicity4659

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01 Nov 2016, 11:41 pm #1,706

(01 Nov 2016, 6:51 pm)Dan I am really surprised that there are so many variations of the MAX livery. Wasn't it produced by Best Impressions? I know they provide branding guides as part of their service...

For a couple of months, Arriva have been managing the Sapphire and MAX brands "in house", instead of Best Impressions.

So, the new crappy 'MAX From Arriva a DB company' logo is being used on interior branding and promotional stuff. Due to the brand management being moved "in house" the fonts have had to change too, as I believe Best Impressions owned the rights to the original fonts used on the brands. The new font has already been implemented in the recent Sapphire X21/X22 timetable.

Also, the red "space bar" thing with the frequency is "in house" too, and has also been implemented on the rear windows of the X16 Pulsars.

It really does look very poor indeed.

omnicity4659

01 Nov 2016, 11:41 pm #1,706

(01 Nov 2016, 6:51 pm)Dan I am really surprised that there are so many variations of the MAX livery. Wasn't it produced by Best Impressions? I know they provide branding guides as part of their service...

markydh

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02 Nov 2016, 10:31 am #1,707

(01 Nov 2016, 2:23 pm)RBZ 5459 Cross Pennine service 685/X85 timetable has been finally made public by Arriva. Timetable via SC C&NL will be up soon.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/globalassets...-sep16.pdf

New timetable commences Sunday 13th November 2016.

Looks like Stagecoach will be operating the last two journeys from Eldon Square as they will be running all the way to Carlisle.

Edited 02 Nov 2016, 10:31 am by markydh.

markydh

02 Nov 2016, 10:31 am #1,707

(01 Nov 2016, 2:23 pm)RBZ 5459 Cross Pennine service 685/X85 timetable has been finally made public by Arriva. Timetable via SC C&NL will be up soon.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/globalassets...-sep16.pdf

New timetable commences Sunday 13th November 2016.

Looks like Stagecoach will be operating the last two journeys from Eldon Square as they will be running all the way to Carlisle.

cbma06

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07 Nov 2016, 5:50 pm #1,708

Today on VOSA:

PB0002032/528 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Alnwick Barresdale and Coquet Enterprise Park given service number 472 effective from 07-Nov-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

12. PB0002717/318 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Roseworth and Ingleby Barwick given service number 15 effective from 11-Dec-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

13. PB0002717/335 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middlesbrough and Peterlee given service number X22 effective from 11-Dec-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

cbma06

07 Nov 2016, 5:50 pm #1,708

Cock Robin

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07 Nov 2016, 8:03 pm #1,709

(07 Nov 2016, 5:50 pm)cbma06 Today on VOSA:

PB0002032/528 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Alnwick Barresdale and Coquet Enterprise Park given service number 472 effective from 07-Nov-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

12. PB0002717/318 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Roseworth and Ingleby Barwick given service number 15 effective from 11-Dec-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

13. PB0002717/335 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middlesbrough and Peterlee given service number X22 effective from 11-Dec-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

Durham Road reopening?

Cock Robin

07 Nov 2016, 8:03 pm #1,709

(07 Nov 2016, 5:50 pm)cbma06 Today on VOSA:

PB0002032/528 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Alnwick Barresdale and Coquet Enterprise Park given service number 472 effective from 07-Nov-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

12. PB0002717/318 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Roseworth and Ingleby Barwick given service number 15 effective from 11-Dec-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

13. PB0002717/335 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middlesbrough and Peterlee given service number X22 effective from 11-Dec-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

Durham Road reopening?

2bagstew

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10 Nov 2016, 9:53 am #1,710

The X22 reverts back too it original route..

2bagstew

10 Nov 2016, 9:53 am #1,710

The X22 reverts back too it original route..

RBZ 5459

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10 Nov 2016, 2:53 pm #1,711

(01 Nov 2016, 2:23 pm)RBZ 5459 Cross Pennine service 685/X85 timetable has been finally made public by Arriva. Timetable via SC C&NL will be up soon.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/globalassets...-sep16.pdf

New timetable commences Sunday 13th November 2016.

Press release from Arriva this lunchtime: https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/CrossPennine685/
Stagecoach has their timetable up now too.

(02 Nov 2016, 10:31 am)markydh Looks like Stagecoach will be operating the last two journeys from Eldon Square as they will be running all the way to Carlisle.

Yeah that's correct. Both really a trial on Stagecoach's part, although the 1855 to Hexham was Arriva operated originally with Stagecoach connection to Carlisle.

Edited 10 Nov 2016, 3:24 pm by RBZ 5459.

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RBZ 5459

10 Nov 2016, 2:53 pm #1,711

(01 Nov 2016, 2:23 pm)RBZ 5459 Cross Pennine service 685/X85 timetable has been finally made public by Arriva. Timetable via SC C&NL will be up soon.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/globalassets...-sep16.pdf

New timetable commences Sunday 13th November 2016.

Press release from Arriva this lunchtime: https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/CrossPennine685/
Stagecoach has their timetable up now too.

(02 Nov 2016, 10:31 am)markydh Looks like Stagecoach will be operating the last two journeys from Eldon Square as they will be running all the way to Carlisle.

Yeah that's correct. Both really a trial on Stagecoach's part, although the 1855 to Hexham was Arriva operated originally with Stagecoach connection to Carlisle.

RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

Michael

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10 Nov 2016, 3:13 pm #1,712

Not keen on the branding though, to boring for me.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

10 Nov 2016, 3:13 pm #1,712

Not keen on the branding though, to boring for me.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Jimmi

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10 Nov 2016, 3:25 pm #1,713

(10 Nov 2016, 3:13 pm)Michael Not keen on the branding though, to boring for me.

I don't mind this branding myself, at least it is bright and reasonably eye catching.

The other plus is that the OmniCity's have finally been given some TLC, the leather seats were looking quite worn the last time I was one, also they were incredibly slippy, especially the ones that were on a bit of a slant.

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Jimmi

10 Nov 2016, 3:25 pm #1,713

(10 Nov 2016, 3:13 pm)Michael Not keen on the branding though, to boring for me.

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Dan

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10 Nov 2016, 3:47 pm #1,714

(10 Nov 2016, 3:13 pm)Michael Not keen on the branding though, to boring for me.

Looks very Go North East Coast & Country to me!

Dan

10 Nov 2016, 3:47 pm #1,714

(10 Nov 2016, 3:13 pm)Michael Not keen on the branding though, to boring for me.

Looks very Go North East Coast & Country to me!

Andreos1

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10 Nov 2016, 4:01 pm #1,715

(10 Nov 2016, 3:13 pm)Michael Not keen on the branding though, to boring for me.

I find it subtle rather than boring.
However, I imagine it was quite difficult to find a brand and livery that was operator neutral, with it being a joint service.

Too much of one colour and its biased to one operator. Too much of one font and it leans to the other.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Andreos1

10 Nov 2016, 4:01 pm #1,715

(10 Nov 2016, 3:13 pm)Michael Not keen on the branding though, to boring for me.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

South Tyne Lad

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10 Nov 2016, 6:06 pm #1,716

(10 Nov 2016, 3:47 pm)Dan Looks very Go North East Coast & Country to me!

Looks more like the Transpeak branding in Derbyshire to me.

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South Tyne Lad

10 Nov 2016, 6:06 pm #1,716

(10 Nov 2016, 3:47 pm)Dan Looks very Go North East Coast & Country to me!

Looks more like the Transpeak branding in Derbyshire to me.

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Cock Robin

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10 Nov 2016, 9:39 pm #1,717

(10 Nov 2016, 4:01 pm)Andreos1 I find it subtle rather than boring.
However, I imagine it was quite difficult to find a brand and livery that was operator neutral, with it being a joint service.

Too much of one colour and its biased to one operator. Too much of one font and it leans to the other.

Cross Pennine could be anywhere. A66, M62.....
Should mention Hadrians Wall or Hexham or something like that.

Cock Robin

10 Nov 2016, 9:39 pm #1,717

(10 Nov 2016, 4:01 pm)Andreos1 I find it subtle rather than boring.
However, I imagine it was quite difficult to find a brand and livery that was operator neutral, with it being a joint service.

Too much of one colour and its biased to one operator. Too much of one font and it leans to the other.

Cross Pennine could be anywhere. A66, M62.....
Should mention Hadrians Wall or Hexham or something like that.

Andreos1

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11 Nov 2016, 10:08 am #1,718

(10 Nov 2016, 9:39 pm)Cock Robin Cross Pennine could be anywhere. A66, M62.....
Should mention Hadrians Wall or Hexham or something like that.

It could be anywhere. Guessing that's why they have all the major settlements on the route mentioned above the window.

To be fair though (and I'm not mentioning any brands or operators), how many brands in use across the region are named after the area they operate in? Percentage wise, it will be minimum.
At least this one has some links to its operating area in the brand-name.

Edited 11 Nov 2016, 10:09 am by Andreos1.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Andreos1

11 Nov 2016, 10:08 am #1,718

(10 Nov 2016, 9:39 pm)Cock Robin Cross Pennine could be anywhere. A66, M62.....
Should mention Hadrians Wall or Hexham or something like that.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

RBZ 5459

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11 Nov 2016, 10:36 am #1,719

(10 Nov 2016, 9:39 pm)Cock Robin Cross Pennine could be anywhere. A66, M62.....
Should mention Hadrians Wall or Hexham or something like that.

I've grown to quite like the name, same with the colours, although I feel the Enviro 300 suit it better.
Stagecoach branded their vehicles Cross Country for many years on the Plaxton Premieres and Jonckheere Modulos, so at least it's a bit more specific this time around....!

RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

RBZ 5459

11 Nov 2016, 10:36 am #1,719

(10 Nov 2016, 9:39 pm)Cock Robin Cross Pennine could be anywhere. A66, M62.....
Should mention Hadrians Wall or Hexham or something like that.

RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

L469 YVK

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30 Nov 2016, 8:21 pm #1,720

http://www.northumberland.gov.uk/Northum...161125.pdf

Looking at the changes to the 35, will this mean the X21 being switched to depart Newcastle at xx:15 and X22 switched to depart Newcastle at xx:45 during the evenings and on Sundays?

Will be far more convenient for passengers as the areas that the X21 serve have traditionally been the strong point over the years including former guises such as the X31/X32. Would also be a good move for users of the 35 coming home from Morpeth.

Nothing confirmed yet but very likely judging by the information on the 35.

L469 YVK

30 Nov 2016, 8:21 pm #1,720

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