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Michael



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01 Jan 2014, 4:26 pm #41
(01 Jan 2014, 4:24 pm)dans_bus_photos 5210 is now back at Deptford freshly repainted yellow.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dansnorthea...689181436/

That's striking!, i have to say, i was wrong and look's quite smart

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
01 Jan 2014, 4:26 pm #41

(01 Jan 2014, 4:24 pm)dans_bus_photos 5210 is now back at Deptford freshly repainted yellow.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dansnorthea...689181436/

That's striking!, i have to say, i was wrong and look's quite smart


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Tom



6,138
01 Jan 2014, 4:32 pm #42
(01 Jan 2014, 4:26 pm)Michael That's striking!, i have to say, i was wrong and look's quite smart

It sure does - Doesn't look like I'll be able to photo 8228 then sadly Sad
Tom
01 Jan 2014, 4:32 pm #42

(01 Jan 2014, 4:26 pm)Michael That's striking!, i have to say, i was wrong and look's quite smart

It sure does - Doesn't look like I'll be able to photo 8228 then sadly Sad

peter



993
01 Jan 2014, 4:32 pm #43
Does anyone know what the approximate seating capacity of the MPD's is?
peter
01 Jan 2014, 4:32 pm #43

Does anyone know what the approximate seating capacity of the MPD's is?

Michael



19,169
01 Jan 2014, 4:33 pm #44
(01 Jan 2014, 4:32 pm)Tom It sure does - Doesn't look like I'll be able to photo 8228 then sadly Sad

Not sure when the B9's will be out in service, i would imagine from the 6th, maybe u can get it in the next couple of days

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
01 Jan 2014, 4:33 pm #44

(01 Jan 2014, 4:32 pm)Tom It sure does - Doesn't look like I'll be able to photo 8228 then sadly Sad

Not sure when the B9's will be out in service, i would imagine from the 6th, maybe u can get it in the next couple of days


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

BJ10VUS



850
01 Jan 2014, 4:49 pm #45
(01 Jan 2014, 4:32 pm)peter Does anyone know what the approximate seating capacity of the MPD's is?

I think it's around 28/29?
BJ10VUS
01 Jan 2014, 4:49 pm #45

(01 Jan 2014, 4:32 pm)peter Does anyone know what the approximate seating capacity of the MPD's is?

I think it's around 28/29?

Dan

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18,118
01 Jan 2014, 4:57 pm #46
(01 Jan 2014, 4:49 pm)BJ10VUS I think it's around 28/29?

The Dennis MPD/Transbus Mini Pointer examples (535-548) have 25 seats, and allow for 17 standees.
The Transbus MPD/Transbus Mini Pointer and Dennis MPD/Alexander Mini Pointer examples (549 upwards) have 29 seats, and also allow for 17 standees.
Dan
01 Jan 2014, 4:57 pm #46

(01 Jan 2014, 4:49 pm)BJ10VUS I think it's around 28/29?

The Dennis MPD/Transbus Mini Pointer examples (535-548) have 25 seats, and allow for 17 standees.
The Transbus MPD/Transbus Mini Pointer and Dennis MPD/Alexander Mini Pointer examples (549 upwards) have 29 seats, and also allow for 17 standees.

Malarkey



6,064
01 Jan 2014, 4:58 pm #47
[quote='Dan' pid='24488' dateline='1388562397']

Now wouldn't that be sensible?! Rob has certainly hinted at that a few times, and didn't I mention something about greater reliablity post network changes, in regards to both the vehicles being allocated and indeed the services themselves?
"Fast Cats" is certainly appropriate for the X36, as it primarily serves Sunderland but does continue to go elsewhere too - the service is supposedly an express (Fast) and it's a service within the City of Sunderland (Cats).

Maybe Malarkey hasn't lost his touch in his old age after all - I think he's on the ball.


Complete opposite Daniel, I think i'm getting wiser as the Years pass me by, I just looked back over the previous posts last night when I came across Robs Post, and it just clicked into place perfectly.

I do hope this will then lead to a "Fast Cats" Rebrand though, even if it means the Current Vehicles on the X35 simply get a good old clean like the Artics on the X66 have had, before receiving New Vynals. I would like to think that GNE would do this and have the X35 Route Vynals on one side of the Bus and the X36 on the other, So that both sets of Vehicles can operate on both the X35/X36. The Citylink Branding comes to mind on the point I have just made, plus as you said Dan it would improve the reliability of both Services.
Malarkey
01 Jan 2014, 4:58 pm #47

[quote='Dan' pid='24488' dateline='1388562397']

Now wouldn't that be sensible?! Rob has certainly hinted at that a few times, and didn't I mention something about greater reliablity post network changes, in regards to both the vehicles being allocated and indeed the services themselves?
"Fast Cats" is certainly appropriate for the X36, as it primarily serves Sunderland but does continue to go elsewhere too - the service is supposedly an express (Fast) and it's a service within the City of Sunderland (Cats).

Maybe Malarkey hasn't lost his touch in his old age after all - I think he's on the ball.



Complete opposite Daniel, I think i'm getting wiser as the Years pass me by, I just looked back over the previous posts last night when I came across Robs Post, and it just clicked into place perfectly.

I do hope this will then lead to a "Fast Cats" Rebrand though, even if it means the Current Vehicles on the X35 simply get a good old clean like the Artics on the X66 have had, before receiving New Vynals. I would like to think that GNE would do this and have the X35 Route Vynals on one side of the Bus and the X36 on the other, So that both sets of Vehicles can operate on both the X35/X36. The Citylink Branding comes to mind on the point I have just made, plus as you said Dan it would improve the reliability of both Services.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,118
01 Jan 2014, 5:00 pm #48
(01 Jan 2014, 4:58 pm)Adam Malarkey Complete opposite Daniel, I think i'm getting wiser as the Years pass me by, I just looked back over the previous posts last night when I came across Robs Post, and it just clicked into place perfectly.

See, I told you reading over all of the posts at once helps! :p
Dan
01 Jan 2014, 5:00 pm #48

(01 Jan 2014, 4:58 pm)Adam Malarkey Complete opposite Daniel, I think i'm getting wiser as the Years pass me by, I just looked back over the previous posts last night when I came across Robs Post, and it just clicked into place perfectly.

See, I told you reading over all of the posts at once helps! :p

BJ10VUS



850
01 Jan 2014, 5:13 pm #49
(01 Jan 2014, 4:57 pm)Dan The Dennis MPD/Transbus Mini Pointer examples (535-548) have 25 seats, and allow for 17 standees.
The Transbus MPD/Transbus Mini Pointer and Dennis MPD/Alexander Mini Pointer examples (549 upwards) have 29 seats, and also allow for 17 standees.

Well at least I got one right... Tongue
BJ10VUS
01 Jan 2014, 5:13 pm #49

(01 Jan 2014, 4:57 pm)Dan The Dennis MPD/Transbus Mini Pointer examples (535-548) have 25 seats, and allow for 17 standees.
The Transbus MPD/Transbus Mini Pointer and Dennis MPD/Alexander Mini Pointer examples (549 upwards) have 29 seats, and also allow for 17 standees.

Well at least I got one right... Tongue

Michael



19,169
01 Jan 2014, 5:13 pm #50
I'm glad we know where everything is going now.
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Remember ages ago when GNE first proposed the X36 to go in to the Fast Cats brand? (this was way before the current X36) - but it was then split up in to the X36-X37 when changes was announced - here is the results for that - It was off the Houghton-le-Spring Results (February 2011)

http://northeastbuses.co.uk/archive/GoNo...ry2011.pdf

Houghton-le-Spring Consultation (February 2011) - the page doesn't seem to work

Does anyone know when the Cobalt Clipper B9's come in to service?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
01 Jan 2014, 5:13 pm #50

I'm glad we know where everything is going now.
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Remember ages ago when GNE first proposed the X36 to go in to the Fast Cats brand? (this was way before the current X36) - but it was then split up in to the X36-X37 when changes was announced - here is the results for that - It was off the Houghton-le-Spring Results (February 2011)

http://northeastbuses.co.uk/archive/GoNo...ry2011.pdf

Houghton-le-Spring Consultation (February 2011) - the page doesn't seem to work

Does anyone know when the Cobalt Clipper B9's come in to service?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

tyresmoke



5,318
01 Jan 2014, 5:20 pm #51
(01 Jan 2014, 3:31 pm)citaro5284 So what would you suggest if a service is not performing.....you cannot just keep running and running it. Just look at quite a few service in Arriva Northumbria area (eh Scott Big Grin ). Look how they had to revert back when the X4 and X5 were a disaster and how many times they have mucked around with the 57/57A.....that many complaints from Councillors regarding the X4/X5, I am lead to believe Mr De Santis had to ensure the services were corrected.
Oh yeah I can't defend them on Northumbria! That has been messed around with way too many times recently... Bit like GNE's Sunderland network Big Grin
My point is surely you can't see whether changes work inside a month or two, and need to leave the service to bed in before seeing whether it is growing or failing. Making changes 3 months in can't be good for continuity for staff and passengers.

(01 Jan 2014, 3:31 pm)citaro5284 Bit like Whitby town services eh?
The Whitby town services have run to the same timetable since July 2012 until January 2014.

(01 Jan 2014, 3:31 pm)citaro5284 At least the GNE Hybrids are kept on the route they were bought for...unlike another operator......How many Hybrids are on routes other than the 308 Tongue
The 308 needs more time adding in (judging by comments made by mates who drive them...) so hopefully this will happen next time they tinker with Northumbria?!

(01 Jan 2014, 3:31 pm)citaro5284 How do they link the brands? If you look at their competitor, to a normal man in the street, how would you know it was either Trent Barton or Yourbus?
All of Trent Barton's brands include the same "wave" logo (or in the case of the newer brands the coloured circles) - not to mention everything uses the same font across all customer facing platforms, be it on the buses themselves, brand names, timetables, website, everything.
[Image: new+trent+barton+logo.jpg]

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tyresmoke
01 Jan 2014, 5:20 pm #51

(01 Jan 2014, 3:31 pm)citaro5284 So what would you suggest if a service is not performing.....you cannot just keep running and running it. Just look at quite a few service in Arriva Northumbria area (eh Scott Big Grin ). Look how they had to revert back when the X4 and X5 were a disaster and how many times they have mucked around with the 57/57A.....that many complaints from Councillors regarding the X4/X5, I am lead to believe Mr De Santis had to ensure the services were corrected.
Oh yeah I can't defend them on Northumbria! That has been messed around with way too many times recently... Bit like GNE's Sunderland network Big Grin
My point is surely you can't see whether changes work inside a month or two, and need to leave the service to bed in before seeing whether it is growing or failing. Making changes 3 months in can't be good for continuity for staff and passengers.

(01 Jan 2014, 3:31 pm)citaro5284 Bit like Whitby town services eh?
The Whitby town services have run to the same timetable since July 2012 until January 2014.

(01 Jan 2014, 3:31 pm)citaro5284 At least the GNE Hybrids are kept on the route they were bought for...unlike another operator......How many Hybrids are on routes other than the 308 Tongue
The 308 needs more time adding in (judging by comments made by mates who drive them...) so hopefully this will happen next time they tinker with Northumbria?!

(01 Jan 2014, 3:31 pm)citaro5284 How do they link the brands? If you look at their competitor, to a normal man in the street, how would you know it was either Trent Barton or Yourbus?
All of Trent Barton's brands include the same "wave" logo (or in the case of the newer brands the coloured circles) - not to mention everything uses the same font across all customer facing platforms, be it on the buses themselves, brand names, timetables, website, everything.
[Image: new+trent+barton+logo.jpg]


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Tom



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01 Jan 2014, 5:24 pm #52
(01 Jan 2014, 5:13 pm)Michael I'm glad we know where everything is going now.
-----------------
Remember ages ago when GNE first proposed the X36 to go in to the Fast Cats brand? (this was way before the current X36) - but it was then split up in to the X36-X37 when changes was announced - here is the results for that - It was off the Houghton-le-Spring Results (February 2011)

http://northeastbuses.co.uk/archive/GoNo...ry2011.pdf

Houghton-le-Spring Consultation (February 2011) - the page doesn't seem to work

Does anyone know when the Cobalt Clipper B9's come in to service?

Eventually, hey? - At least it has brought lots of discussion to the forum though, and I've enjoyed reading other people's views.
Tom
01 Jan 2014, 5:24 pm #52

(01 Jan 2014, 5:13 pm)Michael I'm glad we know where everything is going now.
-----------------
Remember ages ago when GNE first proposed the X36 to go in to the Fast Cats brand? (this was way before the current X36) - but it was then split up in to the X36-X37 when changes was announced - here is the results for that - It was off the Houghton-le-Spring Results (February 2011)

http://northeastbuses.co.uk/archive/GoNo...ry2011.pdf

Houghton-le-Spring Consultation (February 2011) - the page doesn't seem to work

Does anyone know when the Cobalt Clipper B9's come in to service?

Eventually, hey? - At least it has brought lots of discussion to the forum though, and I've enjoyed reading other people's views.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,118
01 Jan 2014, 5:25 pm #53
(01 Jan 2014, 5:24 pm)Tom Eventually, hey? - At least it has brought lots of discussion to the forum though, and I've enjoyed reading other people's views.

Like pulling teeth!! Tongue
Dan
01 Jan 2014, 5:25 pm #53

(01 Jan 2014, 5:24 pm)Tom Eventually, hey? - At least it has brought lots of discussion to the forum though, and I've enjoyed reading other people's views.

Like pulling teeth!! Tongue

Michael



19,169
01 Jan 2014, 5:29 pm #54
(01 Jan 2014, 5:24 pm)Tom Eventually, hey? - At least it has brought lots of discussion to the forum though, and I've enjoyed reading other people's views.

Ye after so much debate and changes, looks like everything is confirmed Tongue

Question is now - Will the 39 be finally be branded Simplicity - with 8319 going purple to haha - any idea when that will be Tongue

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
01 Jan 2014, 5:29 pm #54

(01 Jan 2014, 5:24 pm)Tom Eventually, hey? - At least it has brought lots of discussion to the forum though, and I've enjoyed reading other people's views.

Ye after so much debate and changes, looks like everything is confirmed Tongue

Question is now - Will the 39 be finally be branded Simplicity - with 8319 going purple to haha - any idea when that will be Tongue


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,118
01 Jan 2014, 5:31 pm #55
(01 Jan 2014, 5:29 pm)Michael Question is now - Will the 39 be finally be branded Simplicity - with 8319 going purple to haha - any idea when that will be Tongue

Eventually, just give it time. Other repaints seem to be taking priority, it seems.
Like I said before, should be branded once the service changes go through.
Dan
01 Jan 2014, 5:31 pm #55

(01 Jan 2014, 5:29 pm)Michael Question is now - Will the 39 be finally be branded Simplicity - with 8319 going purple to haha - any idea when that will be Tongue

Eventually, just give it time. Other repaints seem to be taking priority, it seems.
Like I said before, should be branded once the service changes go through.

cbma06



2,669
01 Jan 2014, 5:31 pm #56
(01 Jan 2014, 11:31 am)CatsFast101 Peterlee depot is secure it's more than just buses left on a field overnight hahaha!
I believe Citaros will certainly boost the X7 especially if GNE do some small publicity about new buses for the service.

The Peterlee buses are stored with East Durham Community transport compound. down the road from where the old Arriva depot is.


cbma06
01 Jan 2014, 5:31 pm #56

(01 Jan 2014, 11:31 am)CatsFast101 Peterlee depot is secure it's more than just buses left on a field overnight hahaha!
I believe Citaros will certainly boost the X7 especially if GNE do some small publicity about new buses for the service.

The Peterlee buses are stored with East Durham Community transport compound. down the road from where the old Arriva depot is.



Michael



19,169
01 Jan 2014, 5:35 pm #57
(01 Jan 2014, 5:31 pm)Dan Eventually, just give it time. Other repaints seem to be taking priority, it seems.
Like I said before, should be branded once the service changes go through.

Can see everything done by end of January, that includes re-paints and the brands being applied to the buses.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
01 Jan 2014, 5:35 pm #57

(01 Jan 2014, 5:31 pm)Dan Eventually, just give it time. Other repaints seem to be taking priority, it seems.
Like I said before, should be branded once the service changes go through.

Can see everything done by end of January, that includes re-paints and the brands being applied to the buses.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Malarkey



6,064
01 Jan 2014, 5:54 pm #58
(01 Jan 2014, 5:00 pm)Dan See, I told you reading over all of the posts at once helps! :p

Indeed it does, Here is my Attempt at the Cats Fast Rebrand, Admittedly more can be done with the "Cat"

[attachment=5114]
Malarkey
01 Jan 2014, 5:54 pm #58

(01 Jan 2014, 5:00 pm)Dan See, I told you reading over all of the posts at once helps! :p

Indeed it does, Here is my Attempt at the Cats Fast Rebrand, Admittedly more can be done with the "Cat"

[attachment=5114]

Michael



19,169
01 Jan 2014, 5:58 pm #59
(01 Jan 2014, 5:54 pm)Adam Malarkey Indeed it does, Here is my Attempt at the Cats Fast Rebrand, Admittedly more can be done with the "Cat"

Looks good =D
Just a shame the X35 one won't be changing =(

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
01 Jan 2014, 5:58 pm #59

(01 Jan 2014, 5:54 pm)Adam Malarkey Indeed it does, Here is my Attempt at the Cats Fast Rebrand, Admittedly more can be done with the "Cat"

Looks good =D
Just a shame the X35 one won't be changing =(


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,118
01 Jan 2014, 6:02 pm #60
(01 Jan 2014, 5:58 pm)Michael Looks good =D
Just a shame the X35 one won't be changing =(

The quote below from Rob..

(31 Dec 2013, 7:51 pm)Rob Just to add. The vehicles currently branded Fast Cats are not changing.

..could just relate to the main branding rather than the branding at the top of the vehicle for the destinations. I'd imagine it would be quite easy to replace one set of destinations on the side of a bus.
Dan
01 Jan 2014, 6:02 pm #60

(01 Jan 2014, 5:58 pm)Michael Looks good =D
Just a shame the X35 one won't be changing =(

The quote below from Rob..

(31 Dec 2013, 7:51 pm)Rob Just to add. The vehicles currently branded Fast Cats are not changing.

..could just relate to the main branding rather than the branding at the top of the vehicle for the destinations. I'd imagine it would be quite easy to replace one set of destinations on the side of a bus.

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