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conzog

13 Apr 2015, 8:09 am #61

(13 Apr 2015, 7:37 am)Martin Rogers The New E400 MMC's for Oxford are due for delivery in mid-late July 2015.

Cheers

conzog

13 Apr 2015, 8:09 am #61

(13 Apr 2015, 7:37 am)Martin Rogers The New E400 MMC's for Oxford are due for delivery in mid-late July 2015.

Cheers

Martin Rogers

13 Apr 2015, 11:34 am #62

(12 Apr 2015, 6:22 pm)Southernsofty Does anyone know what happened to the final Enviro 200s of the 2014/2015 order - 37280-37290?
Originally listed as due for the Isle of Arran (Strathclyde purchased & owned Streetlites presumably put paid to that) then a possible hint that they might be going to Worthing.
Presumably they have been cancelled?

Fleet numbers 37280 - 37290, don't appear in the 2015 Stagecoach Handbook, so they have obviously been cancelled.

Martin Rogers

13 Apr 2015, 11:34 am #62

(12 Apr 2015, 6:22 pm)Southernsofty Does anyone know what happened to the final Enviro 200s of the 2014/2015 order - 37280-37290?
Originally listed as due for the Isle of Arran (Strathclyde purchased & owned Streetlites presumably put paid to that) then a possible hint that they might be going to Worthing.
Presumably they have been cancelled?

Fleet numbers 37280 - 37290, don't appear in the 2015 Stagecoach Handbook, so they have obviously been cancelled.

Martin Rogers

13 Apr 2015, 11:47 am #63

(11 Apr 2015, 11:41 pm)Kuyoyo And as someone has now blabbed elsewhere:

Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
10431-10442: Oxford
10443-10451: Wigan
10452-10456:
10457-10487: Manchester Hyde Road

Scania N230UD Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Euro5
15211-15220: Fenstanton (Guideway)
15221-15225: Lillyhall (GOLD Spec)
15226-15249: Chorley (GOLD Spec)
15250: Torquay (GOLD Spec)
15251-15260: Exeter (GOLD Spec)

Scania N230UD Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
15261-15290:

Volvo B8RLE/Wrightbus Eclipse Urban 3
21301-21310: Fenstanton (Guideway)

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC 11.8M Euro6
26001-26019: Cowdenbeath
26020-26023: Barnsley
26024-26033: Rawmarsh

Alexander Dennis Enviro300 Euro5
27211-27228: Glasgow (Note: Presently two versions - the list I have lists the entire batch for Glasgow, the one so far revealled online has 27226 as for the South West)
27229-27237: Wigan
27238-27254: Stockton
27255-27272: Birkenhead Rock Ferry (GOLD Spec)
27273-27286: (GOLD Spec)
27287-27299:

Scania K230UB Alexander Dennis Enviro300
28721-28741: Cwnbran (replacing 27188-27205)
28742-28746: Banbury (GOLD Spec)
28747-28748: Lillyhall (GOLD Spec)

Alexander Dennis Enviro200 Euro5
37301-37319: South Shields
37320-37326: Gloucester
37327: Hastings

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6
37401-37405: Oxford
37406-37423:

Optare Solo SR Euro5
47941-47966: Carlisle
47967-47980: Leamington (GOLD Spec)

Optare Solo SLR Euro6
48001-48002: Carlisle (Honister spec)
48003-48020: Exeter
48021-48025: Kings Lynn

Volvo B8R/Plaxton Elite Euro6
53801-53812: Aberhill

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite I Euro6
54241-54257: Buchan
54258-54262: Glasgow
54263-54276: Rugby Megabus

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite I Euro6
55021-55028: Rugby (Left Hand Drive)

Van Hool Astromega TDX27 Euro6
56028-56050: Rugby Megabus (Left Hand Drive)

Edited 13 Apr 2015, 11:56 am by Martin Rogers.

Martin Rogers

13 Apr 2015, 11:47 am #63

(11 Apr 2015, 11:41 pm)Kuyoyo And as someone has now blabbed elsewhere:

Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
10431-10442: Oxford
10443-10451: Wigan
10452-10456:
10457-10487: Manchester Hyde Road

Scania N230UD Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Euro5
15211-15220: Fenstanton (Guideway)
15221-15225: Lillyhall (GOLD Spec)
15226-15249: Chorley (GOLD Spec)
15250: Torquay (GOLD Spec)
15251-15260: Exeter (GOLD Spec)

Scania N230UD Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
15261-15290:

Volvo B8RLE/Wrightbus Eclipse Urban 3
21301-21310: Fenstanton (Guideway)

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC 11.8M Euro6
26001-26019: Cowdenbeath
26020-26023: Barnsley
26024-26033: Rawmarsh

Alexander Dennis Enviro300 Euro5
27211-27228: Glasgow (Note: Presently two versions - the list I have lists the entire batch for Glasgow, the one so far revealled online has 27226 as for the South West)
27229-27237: Wigan
27238-27254: Stockton
27255-27272: Birkenhead Rock Ferry (GOLD Spec)
27273-27286: (GOLD Spec)
27287-27299:

Scania K230UB Alexander Dennis Enviro300
28721-28741: Cwnbran (replacing 27188-27205)
28742-28746: Banbury (GOLD Spec)
28747-28748: Lillyhall (GOLD Spec)

Alexander Dennis Enviro200 Euro5
37301-37319: South Shields
37320-37326: Gloucester
37327: Hastings

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6
37401-37405: Oxford
37406-37423:

Optare Solo SR Euro5
47941-47966: Carlisle
47967-47980: Leamington (GOLD Spec)

Optare Solo SLR Euro6
48001-48002: Carlisle (Honister spec)
48003-48020: Exeter
48021-48025: Kings Lynn

Volvo B8R/Plaxton Elite Euro6
53801-53812: Aberhill

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite I Euro6
54241-54257: Buchan
54258-54262: Glasgow
54263-54276: Rugby Megabus

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite I Euro6
55021-55028: Rugby (Left Hand Drive)

Van Hool Astromega TDX27 Euro6
56028-56050: Rugby Megabus (Left Hand Drive)

Kuyoyo

6,853

15 Apr 2015, 8:56 pm #64

As people seem to be leaking left right and centre, I might as well post the full list

Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
10431-10442: Oxford
10443-10451: Wigan
10452-10456: Exeter
10457-10487: Manchester Hyde Road

Scania N230UD Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Euro5
15211-15220: Fenstanton (Guideway)
15221-15225: Lillyhall (GOLD Spec)
15226-15249: Chorley (GOLD Spec)
15250: Torquay (GOLD Spec)
15251-15260: Exeter (GOLD Spec)

Scania N230UD Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
15261-15290: Canterbury

Volvo B8RLE/Wrightbus Eclipse Urban 3
21301-21310: Fenstanton (Guideway)

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC 11.8M Euro6
26001-26019: Cowdenbeath
26020-26023: Barnsley
26024-26033: Rawmarsh

Alexander Dennis Enviro300 Euro5
27211-27228: Glasgow
27229-27237: Wigan
27238-27254: Stockton
27255-27272: Birkenhead Rock Ferry (GOLD Spec)
27273-27286: Cwmbran (GOLD Spec)
27287-27299: Liverpool Gillmoss

Scania K230UB Alexander Dennis Enviro300
28721-28741: Cwnbran (replacing 27188-27205)
28742-28746: Banbury (GOLD Spec)
28747-28748: Lillyhall (GOLD Spec)

Alexander Dennis Enviro200 Euro5
37301-37319: South Shields
37320-37326: Gloucester
37327: Hastings

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6
37401-37405: Oxford
37406-37423: Winchester

Optare Solo SR Euro5
47941-47966: Carlisle
47967-47980: Leamington (GOLD Spec)

Optare Solo SLR Euro6
48001-48002: Carlisle (Honister spec)
48003-48020: Exeter
48021-48025: Kings Lynn

Volvo B8R/Plaxton Elite Euro6
53801-53812: Aberhill

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite I Euro6
54241-54257: Buchan
54258-54262: Glasgow
54263-54276: Rugby Megabus
55021-55028: Rugby Megabus (Left Hand Drive)

Van Hool Astromega TDX27 Euro6
56028-56050: Rugby Megabus (Left Hand Drive)

Kuyoyo

15 Apr 2015, 8:56 pm #64

Malarkey

6,062

15 Apr 2015, 9:00 pm #65

Out of curiosity what is "Honister Spec" for the Solo SRs heading to Carlisle.

Malarkey

15 Apr 2015, 9:00 pm #65

Out of curiosity what is "Honister Spec" for the Solo SRs heading to Carlisle.

Kuyoyo

6,853

15 Apr 2015, 9:09 pm #66

(15 Apr 2015, 9:00 pm)Malarkey Out of curiosity what is "Honister Spec" for the Solo SRs heading to Carlisle.

Modifed to operate over the Honister Pass on the 77/77A as per Solos 47721/2.

Kuyoyo

15 Apr 2015, 9:09 pm #66

(15 Apr 2015, 9:00 pm)Malarkey Out of curiosity what is "Honister Spec" for the Solo SRs heading to Carlisle.

Modifed to operate over the Honister Pass on the 77/77A as per Solos 47721/2.

citaro5284

3,232

15 Apr 2015, 10:06 pm #67

(15 Apr 2015, 9:09 pm)Kuyoyo Modifed to operate over the Honister Pass on the 77/77A as per Solos 47721/2.

Which means what - what has been modified on the vehicle....is it a gerbox ratio change, different diff put in or something else?

citaro5284

15 Apr 2015, 10:06 pm #67

(15 Apr 2015, 9:09 pm)Kuyoyo Modifed to operate over the Honister Pass on the 77/77A as per Solos 47721/2.

Which means what - what has been modified on the vehicle....is it a gerbox ratio change, different diff put in or something else?

Southernsofty

16 Apr 2015, 5:47 am #68

"15261-15290: Canterbury"

As Canterbury is an outstation of Herne Bay (current PVR of @ 17) - so maybe this should read Herne Bay?
(In addition, Canterbury P&R vehicles are separately based at Dover).

Southernsofty

16 Apr 2015, 5:47 am #68

Dan

Site Administrator

18,114

16 Apr 2015, 5:55 am #69

(15 Apr 2015, 10:06 pm)citaro5284 Which means what - what has been modified on the vehicle....is it a gerbox ratio change, different diff put in or something else?

It was speculated originally (prior to the Stagecoach UK order being confirmed last year) that Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancs were to order two Solo SRs for the 77/77A routes, but only one was delivered. The Optare Solo SR M880SL based at Carlisle which was delivered was intended to be a reserve vehicle for when 47721/22 were VOR, but Stagecoach realised upon arrival of the bus that it was too big for the route and couldn't be used.

If my memory serves me correctly, Stagecoach made some modifications to the suspension of Solo SR 47921 and it now can be used as a last resort spare when the preferred reserve Solo is unavailable. Up to now, it has spent much of its time on the short 685 Carlisle - Brampton service, though I suspect upon the arrival of newer Solo SRs which are replacing the ADL Enviro200s, that this will just become a reserve vehicle and will be allocated to various town services as well as the 685.

Kuyoyo may be able to confirm if the Honister specification entails more than the above.

Dan

16 Apr 2015, 5:55 am #69

(15 Apr 2015, 10:06 pm)citaro5284 Which means what - what has been modified on the vehicle....is it a gerbox ratio change, different diff put in or something else?

Alfie31511

17 Apr 2015, 12:07 pm #70

Does anyone know when the winchester ones are due?

Alfie31511

17 Apr 2015, 12:07 pm #70

Does anyone know when the winchester ones are due?

Martin Rogers

17 Apr 2015, 12:12 pm #71

(17 Apr 2015, 12:07 pm)Alfie31511 Does anyone know when the winchester ones are due?

November/December 2015

Martin Rogers

17 Apr 2015, 12:12 pm #71

(17 Apr 2015, 12:07 pm)Alfie31511 Does anyone know when the winchester ones are due?

November/December 2015

Alfie31511

17 Apr 2015, 12:52 pm #72

(17 Apr 2015, 12:12 pm)Martin Rogers November/December 2015

Ok thanks for letting me know

Alfie31511

17 Apr 2015, 12:52 pm #72

(17 Apr 2015, 12:12 pm)Martin Rogers November/December 2015

Ok thanks for letting me know

AIG20

378

18 Apr 2015, 8:08 pm #73

Does anyone know why there is a gap between ADL E300s 27208 & 27211; and ADL E200s 37292 & 37301?

AIG20

18 Apr 2015, 8:08 pm #73

Does anyone know why there is a gap between ADL E300s 27208 & 27211; and ADL E200s 37292 & 37301?

Martin Rogers

19 Apr 2015, 7:17 am #74

(16 Apr 2015, 5:47 am)Southernsofty "15261-15290: Canterbury"

As Canterbury is an outstation of Herne Bay (current PVR of @ 17) - so maybe this should read Herne Bay?
(In addition, Canterbury P&R vehicles are separately based at Dover).

Not being funny but the Canterbury specified allocation is precisely what is recorded on the Delivery Schedule as produced by Stagecoach UK Bus. It doesn't show as Herne Bay, it literally says/shows Canterbury as the allocation.

Martin Rogers

19 Apr 2015, 7:17 am #74

(16 Apr 2015, 5:47 am)Southernsofty "15261-15290: Canterbury"

As Canterbury is an outstation of Herne Bay (current PVR of @ 17) - so maybe this should read Herne Bay?
(In addition, Canterbury P&R vehicles are separately based at Dover).

Martin Rogers

19 Apr 2015, 7:25 am #75

(18 Apr 2015, 8:08 pm)AIG20 Does anyone know why there is a gap between ADL E300s 27208 & 27211; and ADL E200s 37292 & 37301?

Odd gaps in Fleet Blocks are often left, just in case Stagecoach purchases other Operators, as in the case of Norfolk Green & is then able to slot vehicles in. Also I would suspect if an "Odd" extra vehicle (s) is required the spare numbers can be used to accommodate these Odd vehicles.

The same could also be said for the likes of Arriva North East, where I believe there is a gap between 1523 & 1550 ?

Martin Rogers

19 Apr 2015, 7:25 am #75

(18 Apr 2015, 8:08 pm)AIG20 Does anyone know why there is a gap between ADL E300s 27208 & 27211; and ADL E200s 37292 & 37301?

Southernsofty

20 Apr 2015, 7:41 am #76

(19 Apr 2015, 7:17 am)Martin Rogers Not being funny but the Canterbury specified allocation is precisely what is recorded on the Delivery Schedule as produced by Stagecoach UK Bus. It doesn't show as Herne Bay, it literally says/shows Canterbury as the allocation.

Happy to accept that it states 'Canterbury' on the delivery schedule.
Would just point out that Canterbury outstation has a PVR of 17 (With the vehicles maintained at Herne bay), The Canterbury Park & Ride buses (4 - Enviro 400, 6 Enviro 300) are based at Dover depot.
The VOSA site shows Canterbury as an operating centre of 17 vehicles.
I would suggest that perhaps the intention is to use 17 of the new vehicles at Canterbury on a daily basis (with the whole batch being allocated to Herne Bay).

Southernsofty

20 Apr 2015, 7:41 am #76

(19 Apr 2015, 7:17 am)Martin Rogers Not being funny but the Canterbury specified allocation is precisely what is recorded on the Delivery Schedule as produced by Stagecoach UK Bus. It doesn't show as Herne Bay, it literally says/shows Canterbury as the allocation.

AIG20

378

20 Apr 2015, 8:09 pm #77

The First New Vehicles of the 2015/2016 order are currently undergoing delivery. I assume these are E300 bodied Scania's.

YN15 KFZ
YN15 KFP
YN15 KFX
YN15 KFV
YN15 KFT

Image owned by Flickr user "MOD571P".

Edited 20 Apr 2015, 8:10 pm by AIG20.