(25 Aug 2015, 3:37 pm)Dan I'm still not convinced by Arriva showing how late vehicles are running on their app..?
Surely more customers would like to know when their bus is due, rather than how late it is, or have I missed the point? I mean, when family and friends ask me when the bus is due, I usually respond by saying "In 5 minutes" rather than by saying, "Due at 16:45 - it's 13 minutes late."
(25 Aug 2015, 3:37 pm)Dan I'm still not convinced by Arriva showing how late vehicles are running on their app..?
Surely more customers would like to know when their bus is due, rather than how late it is, or have I missed the point? I mean, when family and friends ask me when the bus is due, I usually respond by saying "In 5 minutes" rather than by saying, "Due at 16:45 - it's 13 minutes late."
Enthusiasts want to know how late a bus is running, whereas Joe Public just wants to know when it's going to turn up.
Arriva's app allows you to do both. In the journey planner mode, it'll say your bus is due at 16:45 (+2) for example. Although I'd have personally designed it to just state 17:47. Giving details that it's running 2 minutes late only when you expand that particular trip. There's actually no indication what the +0, +2, etc refers to, unless you start digging through the FAQs.
Then livemap of course allows you to see exactly where the bus is, and then get the same details for that trip, as you would via the journey planner mode. The map is nothing more than a bit of a novelty really, and it takes some knowledge of the bus network to actually scout down where the bus is on route.
(25 Aug 2015, 3:52 pm)Andreos1 Aye, it is on the NPower shuttles
(25 Aug 2015, 3:52 pm)Andreos1 Aye, it is on the NPower shuttles
(25 Aug 2015, 3:37 pm)Dan I'm still not convinced by Arriva showing how late vehicles are running on their app..?
Surely more customers would like to know when their bus is due, rather than how late it is, or have I missed the point? I mean, when family and friends ask me when the bus is due, I usually respond by saying "In 5 minutes" rather than by saying, "Due at 16:45 - it's 13 minutes late."
(25 Aug 2015, 3:37 pm)Dan I'm still not convinced by Arriva showing how late vehicles are running on their app..?
Surely more customers would like to know when their bus is due, rather than how late it is, or have I missed the point? I mean, when family and friends ask me when the bus is due, I usually respond by saying "In 5 minutes" rather than by saying, "Due at 16:45 - it's 13 minutes late."
I don't use the Arriva live map no more as its not a real time if the bus turns up at the bus stop where I get on and the live map still showing the bus 20 to 30 minutes down the route, on the arriva app I just use the timetable with the green line commencing down on the left hand side as its usually within a couple of minutes before the bus stop.
(25 Aug 2015, 5:03 pm)cbma06 I don't use the Arriva live map no more as its not a real time if the bus turns up at the bus stop where I get on and the live map still showing the bus 20 to 30 minutes down the route, on the arriva app I just use the timetable with the green line commencing down on the left hand side as its usually within a couple of minutes before the bus stop.
(25 Aug 2015, 5:03 pm)cbma06 I don't use the Arriva live map no more as its not a real time if the bus turns up at the bus stop where I get on and the live map still showing the bus 20 to 30 minutes down the route, on the arriva app I just use the timetable with the green line commencing down on the left hand side as its usually within a couple of minutes before the bus stop.
Our new 'Bus Refurbishments & Repairs' thread (which can be found here) reminded me that I haven't provided an update on our current status with things at Thornton's for a while...
The three away at present are Riverside's Volvo B10BLE/Wright Renown 4900 (V990 ETN), 4910 (W491 SCU) and 4919 (X919 WGR) - 4910 is the most recent one to have gone to Thorntons.
Formerly based within the Driver Training School, Volvo B10M/Plaxton Paragons 7080 (Y808 MFT) and 7082 (Y782 MFT) returned to Riverside from Thornton's this afternoon, following seating configuration modifications ahead of the new academic school year next week.
Also worth noting is that Volvo B10BLE/Wright Renown 4896 (V986 ETN) and 4897 (V987 ETN) have both transferred from Deptford to Riverside - one of these is just an extra vehicle in the fleet which will help Riverside out while their own Volvo B10BLEs are away for DDA conversion, and one is to allow 4843 (R843 PRG) to be withdrawn (released by one of the entry into service of one of the MPDs from Peterlee).
(25 Aug 2015, 3:37 pm)Dan I'm still not convinced by Arriva showing how late vehicles are running on their app..?
Surely more customers would like to know when their bus is due, rather than how late it is, or have I missed the point? I mean, when family and friends ask me when the bus is due, I usually respond by saying "In 5 minutes" rather than by saying, "Due at 16:45 - it's 13 minutes late."
(25 Aug 2015, 3:37 pm)Dan I'm still not convinced by Arriva showing how late vehicles are running on their app..?
Surely more customers would like to know when their bus is due, rather than how late it is, or have I missed the point? I mean, when family and friends ask me when the bus is due, I usually respond by saying "In 5 minutes" rather than by saying, "Due at 16:45 - it's 13 minutes late."
(25 Aug 2015, 5:11 pm)aureolin I have to say that that's the opposite of my own experience. I find the liveapp to be dead on. It's a lifesaver on a morning if it's chucking down, and I don't want to be standing for a bus that's running late.
(25 Aug 2015, 5:11 pm)aureolin I have to say that that's the opposite of my own experience. I find the liveapp to be dead on. It's a lifesaver on a morning if it's chucking down, and I don't want to be standing for a bus that's running late.
Folks, I'm not wondering this from a perspective of whether you agree with buggys on buses or not. How comes you can travel with a child in a pushchair on Arriva's express routes particularly the X15 which serves mainly the A1 and all of these vehicles (well bar the MPD's) can easily get to 62mph yet, passengers can't do this on the X9/X10?
(25 Aug 2015, 9:45 pm)DaveyBowyer Folks, I'm not wondering this from a perspective of whether you agree with buggys on buses or not. How comes you can travel with a child in a pushchair on Arriva's express routes particularly the X15 which serves mainly the A1 and all of these vehicles (well bar the MPD's) can easily get to 62mph yet, passengers can't do this on the X9/X10?
(25 Aug 2015, 9:45 pm)DaveyBowyer Folks, I'm not wondering this from a perspective of whether you agree with buggys on buses or not. How comes you can travel with a child in a pushchair on Arriva's express routes particularly the X15 which serves mainly the A1 and all of these vehicles (well bar the MPD's) can easily get to 62mph yet, passengers can't do this on the X9/X10?
(25 Aug 2015, 9:45 pm)DaveyBowyer Folks, I'm not wondering this from a perspective of whether you agree with buggys on buses or not. How comes you can travel with a child in a pushchair on Arriva's express routes particularly the X15 which serves mainly the A1 and all of these vehicles (well bar the MPD's) can easily get to 62mph yet, passengers can't do this on the X9/X10?
(25 Aug 2015, 9:45 pm)DaveyBowyer Folks, I'm not wondering this from a perspective of whether you agree with buggys on buses or not. How comes you can travel with a child in a pushchair on Arriva's express routes particularly the X15 which serves mainly the A1 and all of these vehicles (well bar the MPD's) can easily get to 62mph yet, passengers can't do this on the X9/X10?
There is a big difference between the X15 and X9/X10.
The X15 is on and off the A1 and, for most of the route, it is a standard single carriage way like most roads (minus the Dual Carriageways and Motorways). I am aware that some of the X15 route is on a dual carriage way (like when it first joins the A1 heading north at Gosforth). However, all of the A19 covered by the X9 and X10 is dual carriage way and doesn't keep exiting at every single possible point (not saying the X15 does that because i know for a fact it doesnt). That could be something to do with it.
(25 Aug 2015, 6:07 pm)Dan Our new 'Bus Refurbishments & Repairs' thread (which can be found here) reminded me that I haven't provided an update on our current status with things at Thornton's for a while...
The three away at present are Riverside's Volvo B10BLE/Wright Renown 4900 (V990 ETN), 4910 (W491 SCU) and 4919 (X919 WGR) - 4910 is the most recent one to have gone to Thorntons.
Formerly based within the Driver Training School, Volvo B10M/Plaxton Paragons 7080 (Y808 MFT) and 7082 (Y782 MFT) returned to Riverside from Thornton's this afternoon, following seating configuration modifications ahead of the new academic school year next week.
Also worth noting is that Volvo B10BLE/Wright Renown 4896 (V986 ETN) and 4897 (V987 ETN) have both transferred from Deptford to Riverside - one of these is just an extra vehicle in the fleet which will help Riverside out while their own Volvo B10BLEs are away for DDA conversion, and one is to allow 4843 (R843 PRG) to be withdrawn (released by one of the entry into service of one of the MPDs from Peterlee).
(25 Aug 2015, 6:07 pm)Dan Our new 'Bus Refurbishments & Repairs' thread (which can be found here) reminded me that I haven't provided an update on our current status with things at Thornton's for a while...
The three away at present are Riverside's Volvo B10BLE/Wright Renown 4900 (V990 ETN), 4910 (W491 SCU) and 4919 (X919 WGR) - 4910 is the most recent one to have gone to Thorntons.
Formerly based within the Driver Training School, Volvo B10M/Plaxton Paragons 7080 (Y808 MFT) and 7082 (Y782 MFT) returned to Riverside from Thornton's this afternoon, following seating configuration modifications ahead of the new academic school year next week.
Also worth noting is that Volvo B10BLE/Wright Renown 4896 (V986 ETN) and 4897 (V987 ETN) have both transferred from Deptford to Riverside - one of these is just an extra vehicle in the fleet which will help Riverside out while their own Volvo B10BLEs are away for DDA conversion, and one is to allow 4843 (R843 PRG) to be withdrawn (released by one of the entry into service of one of the MPDs from Peterlee).
(25 Aug 2015, 10:25 pm)Michael Any idea when the last Toonlink B10 will get withdrawn?
(25 Aug 2015, 10:25 pm)Michael Any idea when the last Toonlink B10 will get withdrawn?
5291 in blue on the 43/44 in Durham yesterday.
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