Bus specification, interior and on-board features
Bus specification, interior and on-board features
(04 Apr 2016, 5:24 pm)mb134 Oooh no!
I remember when I was younger, I was used to bench and coach seated Olympians on the X31. One day a, to me, 'new' Lowlander turned up, with those awful plastic Urban 90s, I remember people complaining, and wondering where the 'old' buses had gone to!
I always found bench seats more than good enough.
(04 Apr 2016, 5:24 pm)mb134 Oooh no!
I remember when I was younger, I was used to bench and coach seated Olympians on the X31. One day a, to me, 'new' Lowlander turned up, with those awful plastic Urban 90s, I remember people complaining, and wondering where the 'old' buses had gone to!
I always found bench seats more than good enough.
(04 Apr 2016, 5:35 pm)S813 FVK I like the bench seats - I noticed a couple of MPDs in Scarborough running around with them. I assumed that this meant that they are breaking the DDA regulations (unless permission has been given)?
The Volvo Olympian's I had on that bus trip on Saturday all had bench seats and they were extremely comfortable, excluding the Northern Counties Palatine I rode were they were rather worn and made my back ache. So if they aren't worn I think they are brilliant and miss them on buses today.
(04 Apr 2016, 5:51 pm)S813 FVK Indeed they are. KXJ and KXK are the ones I spotted. Noticed Y485 VRH had bench seating, too.
(04 Apr 2016, 5:51 pm)S813 FVK Indeed they are. KXJ and KXK are the ones I spotted. Noticed Y485 VRH had bench seating, too.
(04 Apr 2016, 5:51 pm)S813 FVK Indeed they are. KXJ and KXK are the ones I spotted. Noticed Y485 VRH had bench seating, too.
(04 Apr 2016, 5:51 pm)S813 FVK Indeed they are. KXJ and KXK are the ones I spotted. Noticed Y485 VRH had bench seating, too.
(06 Apr 2016, 9:35 am)NK53 TKT I have been wondering recently why the NSA screens on GNE have been substituted with smaller screens, just I prefer the bigger screens?
(06 Apr 2016, 9:35 am)NK53 TKT I have been wondering recently why the NSA screens on GNE have been substituted with smaller screens, just I prefer the bigger screens?
(06 Apr 2016, 11:39 am)Dan The LED displays look more professional than the TFT monitors previously used. There's certainly more of a corporate feel to the announcements now, with the voice of London's buses being used as opposed to a local DJ presenter.
Not a bad little read.
I noted the comments on rattly buses too...
http://www.passengertransport.co.uk/2016...nnovation/
(27 May 2016, 3:12 pm)Andreos1 Not a bad little read.
I noted the comments on rattly buses too...
http://www.passengertransport.co.uk/2016...nnovation/
(27 May 2016, 3:12 pm)Andreos1 Not a bad little read.
I noted the comments on rattly buses too...
http://www.passengertransport.co.uk/2016...nnovation/
(27 May 2016, 3:32 pm)BusLoverMum It doesn't matter how big a litter bin is if some twit is going to leave their empty bottle on the seat, regardless.
And stuff projected onto the pavement is just something I'd feel like I was going to trip over. Stop the rattles, great, but dispense with silly gimmicks.
(27 May 2016, 3:32 pm)BusLoverMum It doesn't matter how big a litter bin is if some twit is going to leave their empty bottle on the seat, regardless.
And stuff projected onto the pavement is just something I'd feel like I was going to trip over. Stop the rattles, great, but dispense with silly gimmicks.
(27 May 2016, 3:40 pm)Jimmi Doesn't make much difference having a bin on the bus, some of Darlington's Pulsars have some and you still get people chucking bottles and throwing litter to leave them rolling down the bus.
(27 May 2016, 3:40 pm)Jimmi Doesn't make much difference having a bin on the bus, some of Darlington's Pulsars have some and you still get people chucking bottles and throwing litter to leave them rolling down the bus.
(27 May 2016, 3:32 pm)BusLoverMum It doesn't matter how big a litter bin is if some twit is going to leave their empty bottle on the seat, regardless.
And stuff projected onto the pavement is just something I'd feel like I was going to trip over. Stop the rattles, great, but dispense with silly gimmicks.
(27 May 2016, 3:32 pm)BusLoverMum It doesn't matter how big a litter bin is if some twit is going to leave their empty bottle on the seat, regardless.
And stuff projected onto the pavement is just something I'd feel like I was going to trip over. Stop the rattles, great, but dispense with silly gimmicks.
(28 May 2016, 7:57 pm)Andreos1 Decent luggage racks (can't think of owt decent in recent years apart from the Solars) and rattle reduction technology would do me.
(28 May 2016, 7:57 pm)Andreos1 Decent luggage racks (can't think of owt decent in recent years apart from the Solars) and rattle reduction technology would do me.
I don't think buses need to have bins. People just need to be civilised, and take their litter with them. It's rare that you're going somewhere that doesn't have a bin.
New buses don't have any luggage space at all. It's as simple as that. The one tiny place for them on a Streetlite has the fire extinguisher and Metro newspaper rack there, so I'd argue you couldn't put anything there for fear of obstructing the fire extinguisher. Geminis are no better mind, with a tiny bit of storage space at the front. It's as if we were spoilt with buses like Nationals and the Olympians... you could literally store suitcase upon suitcase in them.
It's an issue that hasn't gone away, so I'm not sure why manufacturers no longer include luggage space? Passengers get frustrated (and I saw quite a bit of this in Brighton), that other passengers have bags with them, and on the seat next to them. How can you channel behaviour if you're removing the solutions?
(29 May 2016, 10:34 am)Adrian New buses don't have any luggage space at all. It's as simple as that. The one tiny place for them on a Streetlite has the fire extinguisher and Metro newspaper rack there, so I'd argue you couldn't put anything there for fear of obstructing the fire extinguisher. Geminis are no better mind, with a tiny bit of storage space at the front. It's as if we were spoilt with buses like Nationals and the Olympians... you could literally store suitcase upon suitcase in them.
It's an issue that hasn't gone away, so I'm not sure why manufacturers no longer include luggage space? Passengers get frustrated (and I saw quite a bit of this in Brighton), that other passengers have bags with them, and on the seat next to them. How can you channel behaviour if you're removing the solutions?
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Lothian Buses: 437 / SA15VTT by Daniel Graham, on Flickr(29 May 2016, 10:34 am)Adrian New buses don't have any luggage space at all. It's as simple as that. The one tiny place for them on a Streetlite has the fire extinguisher and Metro newspaper rack there, so I'd argue you couldn't put anything there for fear of obstructing the fire extinguisher. Geminis are no better mind, with a tiny bit of storage space at the front. It's as if we were spoilt with buses like Nationals and the Olympians... you could literally store suitcase upon suitcase in them.
It's an issue that hasn't gone away, so I'm not sure why manufacturers no longer include luggage space? Passengers get frustrated (and I saw quite a bit of this in Brighton), that other passengers have bags with them, and on the seat next to them. How can you channel behaviour if you're removing the solutions?
Lothian Buses: 437 / SA15VTT by Daniel Graham, on Flickr
(29 May 2016, 10:34 am)Adrian I don't think buses need to have bins. People just need to be civilised, and take their litter with them. It's rare that you're going somewhere that doesn't have a bin.
New buses don't have any luggage space at all. It's as simple as that. The one tiny place for them on a Streetlite has the fire extinguisher and Metro newspaper rack there, so I'd argue you couldn't put anything there for fear of obstructing the fire extinguisher. Geminis are no better mind, with a tiny bit of storage space at the front. It's as if we were spoilt with buses like Nationals and the Olympians... you could literally store suitcase upon suitcase in them.
It's an issue that hasn't gone away, so I'm not sure why manufacturers no longer include luggage space? Passengers get frustrated (and I saw quite a bit of this in Brighton), that other passengers have bags with them, and on the seat next to them. How can you channel behaviour if you're removing the solutions?
(29 May 2016, 10:34 am)Adrian I don't think buses need to have bins. People just need to be civilised, and take their litter with them. It's rare that you're going somewhere that doesn't have a bin.
New buses don't have any luggage space at all. It's as simple as that. The one tiny place for them on a Streetlite has the fire extinguisher and Metro newspaper rack there, so I'd argue you couldn't put anything there for fear of obstructing the fire extinguisher. Geminis are no better mind, with a tiny bit of storage space at the front. It's as if we were spoilt with buses like Nationals and the Olympians... you could literally store suitcase upon suitcase in them.
It's an issue that hasn't gone away, so I'm not sure why manufacturers no longer include luggage space? Passengers get frustrated (and I saw quite a bit of this in Brighton), that other passengers have bags with them, and on the seat next to them. How can you channel behaviour if you're removing the solutions?
I mean more luggage space is going to equal to less seats, but if seats are being used as luggage space, then you've got that problem anyway.
The other alternative is to have what Lothian have on their deckers - https://www.flickr.com/photos/lothian_bu...251428/in/
(29 May 2016, 10:55 am)Adrian I mean more luggage space is going to equal to less seats, but if seats are being used as luggage space, then you've got that problem anyway.
The other alternative is to have what Lothian have on their deckers - https://www.flickr.com/photos/lothian_bu...251428/in/
(29 May 2016, 10:55 am)Adrian I mean more luggage space is going to equal to less seats, but if seats are being used as luggage space, then you've got that problem anyway.
The other alternative is to have what Lothian have on their deckers - https://www.flickr.com/photos/lothian_bu...251428/in/
(29 May 2016, 11:01 am)Tom Wasn't that an Airlink originally though and thats why it has them?
(29 May 2016, 11:01 am)Tom Wasn't that an Airlink originally though and thats why it has them?
