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Jimmi



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29 Dec 2015, 1:09 am #501
Will the new Volvo B11R/Caetano Levante 2's for National Express work be allocated to specific services/runs, or will they just show up on any National Express route?

Hoping that I don't get Plaxton Panther 7093 again with its seats that aren't so comfortable for over two hours when I head to Manchester next month.
Jimmi
29 Dec 2015, 1:09 am #501

Will the new Volvo B11R/Caetano Levante 2's for National Express work be allocated to specific services/runs, or will they just show up on any National Express route?

Hoping that I don't get Plaxton Panther 7093 again with its seats that aren't so comfortable for over two hours when I head to Manchester next month.

DanPicken

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2,177
29 Dec 2015, 8:19 am #502
Is 5160 out today?
DanPicken
29 Dec 2015, 8:19 am #502

Is 5160 out today?

Dan

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18,128
29 Dec 2015, 9:07 am #503
(29 Dec 2015, 1:09 am)Jimmi Will the new Volvo B11R/Caetano Levante 2's for National Express work be allocated to specific services/runs, or will they just show up on any National Express route?

Hoping that I don't get Plaxton Panther 7093 again with its seats that aren't so comfortable for over two hours when I head to Manchester next month.

Should be 425/426, 435/436 and 461 as preference, but can also appear on services usually operated by tri-axle Scania coaches. Guessing it will coincide with maintenance cycles etc, as Go North East stated in their press release that they submitted additional quality standards in their bid for this contract, on top of those specified by National Express, one of which included more frequent engineering inspections.

I got quite lucky with 7120 on service 580 to Liverpool last week:
[Image: 23929979735_f9f2fc0190.jpg]Go North East: 7120 / BX65WDA by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

Believe a tri-axle Scania covered for it on 425/426..?

(29 Dec 2015, 8:19 am)DanPicken Is 5160 out today?

Yes - 16/16A.
Dan
29 Dec 2015, 9:07 am #503

(29 Dec 2015, 1:09 am)Jimmi Will the new Volvo B11R/Caetano Levante 2's for National Express work be allocated to specific services/runs, or will they just show up on any National Express route?

Hoping that I don't get Plaxton Panther 7093 again with its seats that aren't so comfortable for over two hours when I head to Manchester next month.

Should be 425/426, 435/436 and 461 as preference, but can also appear on services usually operated by tri-axle Scania coaches. Guessing it will coincide with maintenance cycles etc, as Go North East stated in their press release that they submitted additional quality standards in their bid for this contract, on top of those specified by National Express, one of which included more frequent engineering inspections.

I got quite lucky with 7120 on service 580 to Liverpool last week:
[Image: 23929979735_f9f2fc0190.jpg]Go North East: 7120 / BX65WDA by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

Believe a tri-axle Scania covered for it on 425/426..?

(29 Dec 2015, 8:19 am)DanPicken Is 5160 out today?

Yes - 16/16A.

Dan

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18,128
29 Dec 2015, 9:44 am #504
(28 Dec 2015, 10:58 pm)Michael Tongue, i don't.

News updated for you!  Tongue

(28 Dec 2015, 11:28 pm)S813 FVK Ah right, thanks. It said it was based at Deptford but there was no mini article to suggest that it had gone back so i wasn't sure.

Returned to Deptford on 08/12/15 (the day after it was sent to Crook for the second time) - the news article bit has now been added:
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/gnefle...leetno=565
Dan
29 Dec 2015, 9:44 am #504

(28 Dec 2015, 10:58 pm)Michael Tongue, i don't.

News updated for you!  Tongue

(28 Dec 2015, 11:28 pm)S813 FVK Ah right, thanks. It said it was based at Deptford but there was no mini article to suggest that it had gone back so i wasn't sure.

Returned to Deptford on 08/12/15 (the day after it was sent to Crook for the second time) - the news article bit has now been added:
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/gnefle...leetno=565

DanPicken

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29 Dec 2015, 9:59 am #505
(29 Dec 2015, 9:07 am)Dan Should be 425/426, 435/436 and 461 as preference, but can also appear on services usually operated by tri-axle Scania coaches. Guessing it will coincide with maintenance cycles etc, as Go North East stated in their press release that they submitted additional quality standards in their bid for this contract, on top of those specified by National Express, one of which included more frequent engineering inspections.



I got quite lucky with 7120 on service 580 to Liverpool last week:

[Image: 23929979735_f9f2fc0190.jpg]Go North East: 7120 / BX65WDA by Daniel Graham, on Flickr



Believe a tri-axle Scania covered for it on 425/426..?





Yes - 16/16A.

Thanks Dan, do you know when its due at Durham?
DanPicken
29 Dec 2015, 9:59 am #505

(29 Dec 2015, 9:07 am)Dan Should be 425/426, 435/436 and 461 as preference, but can also appear on services usually operated by tri-axle Scania coaches. Guessing it will coincide with maintenance cycles etc, as Go North East stated in their press release that they submitted additional quality standards in their bid for this contract, on top of those specified by National Express, one of which included more frequent engineering inspections.



I got quite lucky with 7120 on service 580 to Liverpool last week:

[Image: 23929979735_f9f2fc0190.jpg]Go North East: 7120 / BX65WDA by Daniel Graham, on Flickr



Believe a tri-axle Scania covered for it on 425/426..?





Yes - 16/16A.

Thanks Dan, do you know when its due at Durham?

29 Dec 2015, 10:14 am #506
(29 Dec 2015, 9:59 am)DanPicken Thanks Dan, do you know when its due at Durham?

Read a timetable...
omnicity4659
29 Dec 2015, 10:14 am #506

(29 Dec 2015, 9:59 am)DanPicken Thanks Dan, do you know when its due at Durham?

Read a timetable...

DanPicken

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2,177
29 Dec 2015, 10:16 am #507
(29 Dec 2015, 10:14 am)GX03 SVC Read a timetable...

That's too confusing for me.
4931's front blind not working.
DanPicken
29 Dec 2015, 10:16 am #507

(29 Dec 2015, 10:14 am)GX03 SVC Read a timetable...

That's too confusing for me.
4931's front blind not working.

Diamond One

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1,793
29 Dec 2015, 12:18 pm #508
(29 Dec 2015, 9:59 am)DanPicken Thanks Dan, do you know when its due at Durham?

I already got snaps of this bus looks rather nice
Diamond One
29 Dec 2015, 12:18 pm #508

(29 Dec 2015, 9:59 am)DanPicken Thanks Dan, do you know when its due at Durham?

I already got snaps of this bus looks rather nice

grandad



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29 Dec 2015, 1:47 pm #509
As a point of interest, are the new Levantes auto or manual?
grandad
29 Dec 2015, 1:47 pm #509

As a point of interest, are the new Levantes auto or manual?

29 Dec 2015, 2:03 pm #510
(29 Dec 2015, 1:09 am)Jimmi Will the new Volvo B11R/Caetano Levante 2's for National Express work be allocated to specific services/runs, or will they just show up on any National Express route?

Hoping that I don't get Plaxton Panther 7093 again with its seats that aren't so comfortable for over two hours when I head to Manchester next month.

7093 seems to be highly thought-of by the members of the Northern Enthusiasts Group.
R852 PRG
29 Dec 2015, 2:03 pm #510

(29 Dec 2015, 1:09 am)Jimmi Will the new Volvo B11R/Caetano Levante 2's for National Express work be allocated to specific services/runs, or will they just show up on any National Express route?

Hoping that I don't get Plaxton Panther 7093 again with its seats that aren't so comfortable for over two hours when I head to Manchester next month.

7093 seems to be highly thought-of by the members of the Northern Enthusiasts Group.

29 Dec 2015, 2:08 pm #511
(29 Dec 2015, 1:47 pm)grandad As a point of interest, are the new Levantes auto or manual?


They use the Volvo I-Shift system which is a Automated Semi-Auto box with I think 12 gears.
South Tyne Lad
29 Dec 2015, 2:08 pm #511

(29 Dec 2015, 1:47 pm)grandad As a point of interest, are the new Levantes auto or manual?


They use the Volvo I-Shift system which is a Automated Semi-Auto box with I think 12 gears.

Jimmi



10,977
29 Dec 2015, 2:13 pm #512
(29 Dec 2015, 2:03 pm)R852 PRG 7093 seems to be highly thought-of by the members of the Northern Enthusiasts Group.
Don't get me wrong, the bus is a good performer, the only reason I'm not so fond of it is simply because of the seats, when you're spending the best part of three hours on there, you want the seats to be extremely comfortable, which the seats in 7093 aren't so much, especially compared to the newer stuff used on National Express work.
Jimmi
29 Dec 2015, 2:13 pm #512

(29 Dec 2015, 2:03 pm)R852 PRG 7093 seems to be highly thought-of by the members of the Northern Enthusiasts Group.
Don't get me wrong, the bus is a good performer, the only reason I'm not so fond of it is simply because of the seats, when you're spending the best part of three hours on there, you want the seats to be extremely comfortable, which the seats in 7093 aren't so much, especially compared to the newer stuff used on National Express work.

Adrian



9,593
29 Dec 2015, 2:19 pm #513
(29 Dec 2015, 2:13 pm)Jimmi Don't get me wrong, the bus is a good performer, the only reason I'm not so fond of it is simply because of the seats, when you're spending the best part of three hours on there, you want the seats to be extremely comfortable, which the seats in 7093 aren't so much, especially compared to the newer stuff used on National Express work.
Aye, I agree with you there Jimmi. Spec should be relatively the same no matter what NX service you use, and 7093 should be confined to the past.

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Adrian
29 Dec 2015, 2:19 pm #513

(29 Dec 2015, 2:13 pm)Jimmi Don't get me wrong, the bus is a good performer, the only reason I'm not so fond of it is simply because of the seats, when you're spending the best part of three hours on there, you want the seats to be extremely comfortable, which the seats in 7093 aren't so much, especially compared to the newer stuff used on National Express work.
Aye, I agree with you there Jimmi. Spec should be relatively the same no matter what NX service you use, and 7093 should be confined to the past.


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29 Dec 2015, 2:39 pm #514
(29 Dec 2015, 2:19 pm)Adrian Aye, I agree with you there Jimmi. Spec should be relatively the same no matter what NX service you use, and 7093 should be confined to the past.

I imagine it will be due to be withdrawn in the next couple of years at least, given that it is getting old now and I think the lifespan of coaches on frontline National Express duties is 10 years (although 7093 is the dedicated spare now I understand, but I've been told it sees a lot of use on the 663 to Skegness when it runs). Will be interesting to see what the Northern Enthusiasts Group use after 7093 goes.
R852 PRG
29 Dec 2015, 2:39 pm #514

(29 Dec 2015, 2:19 pm)Adrian Aye, I agree with you there Jimmi. Spec should be relatively the same no matter what NX service you use, and 7093 should be confined to the past.

I imagine it will be due to be withdrawn in the next couple of years at least, given that it is getting old now and I think the lifespan of coaches on frontline National Express duties is 10 years (although 7093 is the dedicated spare now I understand, but I've been told it sees a lot of use on the 663 to Skegness when it runs). Will be interesting to see what the Northern Enthusiasts Group use after 7093 goes.

Dan

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29 Dec 2015, 2:42 pm #515
(29 Dec 2015, 2:03 pm)R852 PRG 7093 seems to be highly thought-of by the members of the Northern Enthusiasts Group.

Enthusiasts tend to like older buses/coaches - that's no secret. I'd guess that most 'normal' customers, like Jimmi, would much prefer the newer coaches, as they're a lot more comfortable.

7093 has been in a reserve capacity since the withdrawal of the seasonal Skegness 663 service. I'd imagine that it will be transferred to the Driver Training school or Hexham (for scholars contracts) when the remainder of the new coaches arrive in 2016, as one of these could presumably take 7093's place in the reserve fleet.

The last time it was used on National Express work was 22/12/15 (Newcastle - Bradford). It's spent most of its time this month in use with the Driver Training school and/or at internal National Express recruitment events.
Dan
29 Dec 2015, 2:42 pm #515

(29 Dec 2015, 2:03 pm)R852 PRG 7093 seems to be highly thought-of by the members of the Northern Enthusiasts Group.

Enthusiasts tend to like older buses/coaches - that's no secret. I'd guess that most 'normal' customers, like Jimmi, would much prefer the newer coaches, as they're a lot more comfortable.

7093 has been in a reserve capacity since the withdrawal of the seasonal Skegness 663 service. I'd imagine that it will be transferred to the Driver Training school or Hexham (for scholars contracts) when the remainder of the new coaches arrive in 2016, as one of these could presumably take 7093's place in the reserve fleet.

The last time it was used on National Express work was 22/12/15 (Newcastle - Bradford). It's spent most of its time this month in use with the Driver Training school and/or at internal National Express recruitment events.

Jimmi



10,977
29 Dec 2015, 3:04 pm #516
(29 Dec 2015, 2:19 pm)Adrian Aye, I agree with you there Jimmi. Spec should be relatively the same no matter what NX service you use, and 7093 should be confined to the past.
I seem to be really unlucky with the Go North East National Express allocations, the first time I went to Manchester on the 580 I got 7092, comical thing about that journey was they put a illustration of what a National Express coach looks like and I don't think 7092/7093 have toilets in them like it was suggesting (may be wrong on that though).

(29 Dec 2015, 2:42 pm)Dan Enthusiasts tend to like older buses/coaches - that's no secret. I'd guess that customers, like Jimmi, would much prefer the newer coaches, as they're a lot more comfortable.

7093 has been in a reserve capacity since the withdrawal of the seasonal Skegness 663 service. I'd imagine that it will be transferred to the Driver Training school or Hexham (for scholars contracts) when the remainder of the new coaches arrive in 2016, as one of these could presumably take 7093's place in the reserve fleet.

I certainly fall into the category of being an enthusiast liking older stuff, however when I am travelling to places to Manchester where I am making journeys that are been between two and three hours long and paying for the privilege, I want the coaches with the dense leather (or e-leather, whatever) seats that I can sink into and be comfortable for the whole journey, not a ten year old coach with thin and let's be honest now worn down fabric seats where your backside can feel the metal that's holding the seat in place, when I had 7093 on my last trip to Manchester, it was the morning 580 that additionally calls at Bradford, so I was on it for just shy of three hours and didn't want to sit down for a while afterwards when I got off.
Jimmi
29 Dec 2015, 3:04 pm #516

(29 Dec 2015, 2:19 pm)Adrian Aye, I agree with you there Jimmi. Spec should be relatively the same no matter what NX service you use, and 7093 should be confined to the past.
I seem to be really unlucky with the Go North East National Express allocations, the first time I went to Manchester on the 580 I got 7092, comical thing about that journey was they put a illustration of what a National Express coach looks like and I don't think 7092/7093 have toilets in them like it was suggesting (may be wrong on that though).

(29 Dec 2015, 2:42 pm)Dan Enthusiasts tend to like older buses/coaches - that's no secret. I'd guess that customers, like Jimmi, would much prefer the newer coaches, as they're a lot more comfortable.

7093 has been in a reserve capacity since the withdrawal of the seasonal Skegness 663 service. I'd imagine that it will be transferred to the Driver Training school or Hexham (for scholars contracts) when the remainder of the new coaches arrive in 2016, as one of these could presumably take 7093's place in the reserve fleet.

I certainly fall into the category of being an enthusiast liking older stuff, however when I am travelling to places to Manchester where I am making journeys that are been between two and three hours long and paying for the privilege, I want the coaches with the dense leather (or e-leather, whatever) seats that I can sink into and be comfortable for the whole journey, not a ten year old coach with thin and let's be honest now worn down fabric seats where your backside can feel the metal that's holding the seat in place, when I had 7093 on my last trip to Manchester, it was the morning 580 that additionally calls at Bradford, so I was on it for just shy of three hours and didn't want to sit down for a while afterwards when I got off.

a718abb



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29 Dec 2015, 3:06 pm #517
(29 Dec 2015, 2:42 pm)Dan Enthusiasts tend to like older buses/coaches - that's no secret. I'd guess that most 'normal' customers, like Jimmi, would much prefer the newer coaches, as they're a lot more comfortable.

7093 has been in a reserve capacity since the withdrawal of the seasonal Skegness 663 service. I'd imagine that it will be transferred to the Driver Training school or Hexham (for scholars contracts) when the remainder of the new coaches arrive in 2016, as one of these could presumably take 7093's place in the reserve fleet.

Its been 7 years since I drove in the Coaching Unit, but i remember dearly 7092/3 being delivered 10 years ago. With their 12 litre engines coupled to the Volvo i-shift, these vehicles produced 420 b.h.p. Speaking from a purely personal point of view, but i am certain that other drivers will agree, that these vehicles were far superior to anything that had come before. In Devon, the A38 Haldon Hill and A380 Telegraph Hill, both notoriously long, steep hills were climbed effortlessly, as was Saddleworth Moor on the M62 betweenYorkshire and Greater Manchester. Even the best B10M could not touch them.
But as has been mentioned this was in the past and i suppose smoke emission control and fuel economy has took over. And after 10 yrs, the seats will be probably worn out and due an interior refurb.
a718abb
29 Dec 2015, 3:06 pm #517

(29 Dec 2015, 2:42 pm)Dan Enthusiasts tend to like older buses/coaches - that's no secret. I'd guess that most 'normal' customers, like Jimmi, would much prefer the newer coaches, as they're a lot more comfortable.

7093 has been in a reserve capacity since the withdrawal of the seasonal Skegness 663 service. I'd imagine that it will be transferred to the Driver Training school or Hexham (for scholars contracts) when the remainder of the new coaches arrive in 2016, as one of these could presumably take 7093's place in the reserve fleet.

Its been 7 years since I drove in the Coaching Unit, but i remember dearly 7092/3 being delivered 10 years ago. With their 12 litre engines coupled to the Volvo i-shift, these vehicles produced 420 b.h.p. Speaking from a purely personal point of view, but i am certain that other drivers will agree, that these vehicles were far superior to anything that had come before. In Devon, the A38 Haldon Hill and A380 Telegraph Hill, both notoriously long, steep hills were climbed effortlessly, as was Saddleworth Moor on the M62 betweenYorkshire and Greater Manchester. Even the best B10M could not touch them.
But as has been mentioned this was in the past and i suppose smoke emission control and fuel economy has took over. And after 10 yrs, the seats will be probably worn out and due an interior refurb.

29 Dec 2015, 3:41 pm #518
Fleet News: 29/12/15

There have been no changes to the fleet this week.
Edited 29 Dec 2015, 3:41 pm by Go North East.
Go North East
29 Dec 2015, 3:41 pm #518

Fleet News: 29/12/15

There have been no changes to the fleet this week.

LeeCalder



1,928
29 Dec 2015, 6:18 pm #519
Sorry if it's been reported, but, 6028's rear blind isn't working.

Seen in Birtley on the 82 half a 0 showing.
LeeCalder
29 Dec 2015, 6:18 pm #519

Sorry if it's been reported, but, 6028's rear blind isn't working.

Seen in Birtley on the 82 half a 0 showing.

S813 FVK



6,030
30 Dec 2015, 10:12 am #520
Well i wasn't aware that the NX services had their numbers updated to Arial too! - https://www.flickr.com/photos/128789124@...datetaken/

Looks like a bit has been cut off though.
S813 FVK
30 Dec 2015, 10:12 am #520

Well i wasn't aware that the NX services had their numbers updated to Arial too! - https://www.flickr.com/photos/128789124@...datetaken/

Looks like a bit has been cut off though.

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