(08 Mar 2016, 9:54 pm)South Tyne Lad Random Question but How does everyone think of the Stretdecks since theve entered service?
(08 Mar 2016, 9:54 pm)South Tyne Lad Random Question but How does everyone think of the Stretdecks since theve entered service?
(08 Mar 2016, 10:12 pm)Jimmi Let us not open that can of worms, the people of Facebook hate them!
I think they are okay, unsure on my views of their performance as I was a bit distracted and we got stuck behind a caravan at one point on my journey. They are a nice place to be inside though, especially with the charging points, WiFi and tables although my only concern with the tables is capacity on some journeys, some of the morning runs leave Chester-le-Street bound for Newcastle with standees.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:12 pm)Jimmi Let us not open that can of worms, the people of Facebook hate them!
I think they are okay, unsure on my views of their performance as I was a bit distracted and we got stuck behind a caravan at one point on my journey. They are a nice place to be inside though, especially with the charging points, WiFi and tables although my only concern with the tables is capacity on some journeys, some of the morning runs leave Chester-le-Street bound for Newcastle with standees.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:15 pm)Dan The new StreetDecks seat 68 passengers and have extra leg room where the tables are located. I believe only four seats are lost upstairs as a result of having the tables installed.
Either way an improvement on the Volvo B7s, which could only seat 65 (and also permitted fewer standees).
(08 Mar 2016, 10:15 pm)Dan The new StreetDecks seat 68 passengers and have extra leg room where the tables are located. I believe only four seats are lost upstairs as a result of having the tables installed.
Either way an improvement on the Volvo B7s, which could only seat 65 (and also permitted fewer standees).
(08 Mar 2016, 10:12 pm)Jimmi Let us not open that can of worms, the people of Facebook hate them!It's interesting that. I've seen bits and pieces of negative feedback, but not a lot. Certainly nothing substantial, and more so people grumbling about windows being obscured, and it being marketed with WiFi and power sockets, believe it or not.
I think they are okay, unsure on my views of their performance as I was a bit distracted and we got stuck behind a caravan at one point on my journey. They are a nice place to be inside though, especially with the charging points, WiFi and tables although my only concern with the tables is capacity on some journeys, some of the morning runs leave Chester-le-Street bound for Newcastle with standees.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:12 pm)Jimmi Let us not open that can of worms, the people of Facebook hate them!It's interesting that. I've seen bits and pieces of negative feedback, but not a lot. Certainly nothing substantial, and more so people grumbling about windows being obscured, and it being marketed with WiFi and power sockets, believe it or not.
I think they are okay, unsure on my views of their performance as I was a bit distracted and we got stuck behind a caravan at one point on my journey. They are a nice place to be inside though, especially with the charging points, WiFi and tables although my only concern with the tables is capacity on some journeys, some of the morning runs leave Chester-le-Street bound for Newcastle with standees.
Outside of the enthusiast circle, I've heard nothing but good things.
Wi-Fi, power sockets and tables have gone down really well with passengers, and everyone seems pleased with the heating on the buses too. The timetable revision seems to have improved reliability too, so everyone seems to be a winner!
When I tested the Next Stop Announcement system, I was on the bus for 10 hours over the course of the day. I found it was comfortable, and all of the advertised features seemed to work well. I did find the 50mph limiter on the buses to be slightly irritating, but you had to hope for a good Volvo B7 to achieve that before, especially uphill...
Of course, enthusiasts being enthusiasts will always find fault. After all, these new buses aren't Olympians with no stickers covering the windows...
(08 Mar 2016, 10:24 pm)Davie I like them. They certainly aren't as good as I expected.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:24 pm)Davie I like them. They certainly aren't as good as I expected.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:20 pm)Adrian It's interesting that. I've seen bits and pieces of negative feedback, but not a lot. Certainly nothing substantial, and more so people grumbling about windows being obscured, and it being marketed with WiFi and power sockets, believe it or not.
Despite the addition of numerous tables, capacity per vehicle has increased from 65 seated 19 standees, to 68 seated and 31 standees. I'd suggest the tables are a worthwhile investment, as you're then attracting commuters wanting to work on the move.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:20 pm)Adrian It's interesting that. I've seen bits and pieces of negative feedback, but not a lot. Certainly nothing substantial, and more so people grumbling about windows being obscured, and it being marketed with WiFi and power sockets, believe it or not.
Despite the addition of numerous tables, capacity per vehicle has increased from 65 seated 19 standees, to 68 seated and 31 standees. I'd suggest the tables are a worthwhile investment, as you're then attracting commuters wanting to work on the move.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:15 pm)Dan The new StreetDecks seat 68 passengers and have extra leg room where the tables are located. I believe only four seats are lost upstairs as a result of having the tables installed.
Either way an improvement on the Volvo B7s, which could only seat 65 (and also permitted fewer standees).
(08 Mar 2016, 10:15 pm)Dan The new StreetDecks seat 68 passengers and have extra leg room where the tables are located. I believe only four seats are lost upstairs as a result of having the tables installed.
Either way an improvement on the Volvo B7s, which could only seat 65 (and also permitted fewer standees).
(08 Mar 2016, 10:30 pm)Davie I meant to say as bad as I expected. My apologies!
(08 Mar 2016, 10:30 pm)Davie I meant to say as bad as I expected. My apologies!
(08 Mar 2016, 10:29 pm)Jimmi Depends where you're looking really... Most of what I've seen is the typical enthusiast grumblings about them being underpowered and various other stuff like that. Don't know how they can give an opinion on them when they apparently broken!
The normal passengers that I have overheard seem to like them though. I am taking this view as it's a great improvement over the President's as I think the seats are more comfortable and then you have the added benefits of WiFi, tables, charging points etc.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:29 pm)Kuyoyo Interesting you say the tables mean the lose of 4 seats upstairs. In terms of total seating, 6301-7 are only 2 seats down on the examples with First (those are 70 seaters - 42 upstairs, 28 downstairs).
(08 Mar 2016, 10:29 pm)Jimmi Depends where you're looking really... Most of what I've seen is the typical enthusiast grumblings about them being underpowered and various other stuff like that. Don't know how they can give an opinion on them when they apparently broken!
The normal passengers that I have overheard seem to like them though. I am taking this view as it's a great improvement over the President's as I think the seats are more comfortable and then you have the added benefits of WiFi, tables, charging points etc.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:29 pm)Kuyoyo Interesting you say the tables mean the lose of 4 seats upstairs. In terms of total seating, 6301-7 are only 2 seats down on the examples with First (those are 70 seaters - 42 upstairs, 28 downstairs).
(08 Mar 2016, 10:32 pm)Dan Aye - according to various enthusiast circles, only two StreetDecks of the seven were out in service today, and three broke down??
One was off service from start of play (but was pushed back out into service later in the day) and two were temporarily removed before going back out again in the afternoon. I know one of these was for a third party supplier to attend to the vehicle, which had been arranged last week. Not too sure about the other but I'd suspect it was a similar story.
But hey, each to their own if they want to believe and regurgitate bull?
(08 Mar 2016, 10:32 pm)Dan Aye - according to various enthusiast circles, only two StreetDecks of the seven were out in service today, and three broke down??
One was off service from start of play (but was pushed back out into service later in the day) and two were temporarily removed before going back out again in the afternoon. I know one of these was for a third party supplier to attend to the vehicle, which had been arranged last week. Not too sure about the other but I'd suspect it was a similar story.
But hey, each to their own if they want to believe and regurgitate bull?
(08 Mar 2016, 10:46 pm)DaveyBowyer We've got to give them a good chance folks. Look at the batch of the B9s for the TEN which had teething issues and ended up being delayed by nearly a week and even the B10BLEs and Citaros having to be swapped back.
(08 Mar 2016, 10:46 pm)DaveyBowyer We've got to give them a good chance folks. Look at the batch of the B9s for the TEN which had teething issues and ended up being delayed by nearly a week and even the B10BLEs and Citaros having to be swapped back.
Only negative feedback we had at our sustainable travel hokey at work was the routing through Low Fell was irritating for the longer standing users.
The tables were dismissed as a gimmick but the seats were a plus and the general comments we had were around improving reliability. A lot of people at the group use the 6 and 97....they were not kind at all on those two services!
(08 Mar 2016, 11:02 pm)Ambassador Only negative feedback we had at our sustainable travel hokey at work was the routing through Low Fell was irritating for the longer standing users.
The tables were dismissed as a gimmick but the seats were a plus and the general comments we had were around improving reliability. A lot of people at the group use the 6 and 97....they were not kind at all on those two services!
(08 Mar 2016, 11:02 pm)Ambassador Only negative feedback we had at our sustainable travel hokey at work was the routing through Low Fell was irritating for the longer standing users.
The tables were dismissed as a gimmick but the seats were a plus and the general comments we had were around improving reliability. A lot of people at the group use the 6 and 97....they were not kind at all on those two services!
quite excited to try these