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JP6004



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09 Jul 2016, 8:56 am #121
(09 Jul 2016, 8:03 am)Adrian Forgive my ignorance, but what's to not understand? Two services that share a common section of route, with almost a grouped brand? Makes perfect sense to me, and the colour will clearly help to differentiate the two to a customer.

Same concept applies to the Citylink 57 and 58.

I understand the grouping etc, but I don't understand the brand itself. What significance does the Blue/ Green Arrow hold?

The other brands have at least some connection/ significance like the Angel, Hexham Links, Red Kite etc
JP6004
09 Jul 2016, 8:56 am #121

(09 Jul 2016, 8:03 am)Adrian Forgive my ignorance, but what's to not understand? Two services that share a common section of route, with almost a grouped brand? Makes perfect sense to me, and the colour will clearly help to differentiate the two to a customer.

Same concept applies to the Citylink 57 and 58.

I understand the grouping etc, but I don't understand the brand itself. What significance does the Blue/ Green Arrow hold?

The other brands have at least some connection/ significance like the Angel, Hexham Links, Red Kite etc

S813 FVK



6,030
09 Jul 2016, 9:25 am #122
(09 Jul 2016, 8:56 am)JP6004 I understand the grouping etc, but I don't understand the brand itself. What significance does the Blue/ Green Arrow hold?

The other brands have at least some connection/ significance like the Angel, Hexham Links, Red Kite etc

Who says all brands need to be significant (or relate) to the routes they operate on? While it may be a common thing, i wouldn't say that it is a 'must' when designing brands. I would say the main purpose of branding is to help identify the route the bus is operating which i would say the brands do quite well at.
S813 FVK
09 Jul 2016, 9:25 am #122

(09 Jul 2016, 8:56 am)JP6004 I understand the grouping etc, but I don't understand the brand itself. What significance does the Blue/ Green Arrow hold?

The other brands have at least some connection/ significance like the Angel, Hexham Links, Red Kite etc

Who says all brands need to be significant (or relate) to the routes they operate on? While it may be a common thing, i wouldn't say that it is a 'must' when designing brands. I would say the main purpose of branding is to help identify the route the bus is operating which i would say the brands do quite well at.

Andreos1



14,242
09 Jul 2016, 9:27 am #123
(09 Jul 2016, 8:56 am)JP6004 I understand the grouping etc, but I don't understand the brand itself. What significance does the Blue/ Green Arrow hold?

The other brands have at least some connection/ significance like the Angel, Hexham Links, Red Kite etc


The original Red Arrows (whether here or in Notts), was obviously a link to the fast jets we know so we'll.

The Silver version we saw on the 2's, was in my opinion, a watered down version of this.
As far as I can see, sticking 12year old + vehicles in an even thinner version, is (echoing back to the many comments in the branding thread) branding for brandings sake.
Edited 09 Jul 2016, 9:28 am by Andreos1.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
09 Jul 2016, 9:27 am #123

(09 Jul 2016, 8:56 am)JP6004 I understand the grouping etc, but I don't understand the brand itself. What significance does the Blue/ Green Arrow hold?

The other brands have at least some connection/ significance like the Angel, Hexham Links, Red Kite etc


The original Red Arrows (whether here or in Notts), was obviously a link to the fast jets we know so we'll.

The Silver version we saw on the 2's, was in my opinion, a watered down version of this.
As far as I can see, sticking 12year old + vehicles in an even thinner version, is (echoing back to the many comments in the branding thread) branding for brandings sake.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

3785



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09 Jul 2016, 10:36 am #124
I wonder if the silver arrows was linked in to the Mercedes operating the service.
3785
09 Jul 2016, 10:36 am #124

I wonder if the silver arrows was linked in to the Mercedes operating the service.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,126
09 Jul 2016, 10:44 am #125
(09 Jul 2016, 8:30 am)Michael Well really, the 39 should be simplicity to, as that services mostly shares its route with the 2/2A but its going to be a brand on red base.

I know i criticized the brand name but the brand does look like quite good on a blue base but could they not of come up with something else?

As Adrian said - two services which share a common route have been grouped together by having a similar brand name, albeit on a different base coat. This gives Go North East some clear messages to sell to people in Gateshead and Newcastle, and allows the company to present things such as combined frequencies etc to key points along the route (ie Metrocentre).

This concept is not new, but it's something which appears to becoming more of a common trend now so perhaps we'll see more of it in the future in other areas. One of the first times this was used was of course with the Fab56 and Fab57, but in its current form, service 57 was actually linked more to service 58 than to service 56, which is why these services are now grouped together under the "Citylink" brand.

I'm sure Go North East could have come up with something else if they so wished, but it's clear to me that marketing the links to the more successful 97 service is of greater importance to the company than coming up with a random brand name to encompass the new 11 service. Regardless of what the service is actually branded as, it's a huge step up for the current 96 service. Having route branding on this service allows potential for growth, and it brings it on the hierarchy of receiving newer vehicles in future.
Dan
09 Jul 2016, 10:44 am #125

(09 Jul 2016, 8:30 am)Michael Well really, the 39 should be simplicity to, as that services mostly shares its route with the 2/2A but its going to be a brand on red base.

I know i criticized the brand name but the brand does look like quite good on a blue base but could they not of come up with something else?

As Adrian said - two services which share a common route have been grouped together by having a similar brand name, albeit on a different base coat. This gives Go North East some clear messages to sell to people in Gateshead and Newcastle, and allows the company to present things such as combined frequencies etc to key points along the route (ie Metrocentre).

This concept is not new, but it's something which appears to becoming more of a common trend now so perhaps we'll see more of it in the future in other areas. One of the first times this was used was of course with the Fab56 and Fab57, but in its current form, service 57 was actually linked more to service 58 than to service 56, which is why these services are now grouped together under the "Citylink" brand.

I'm sure Go North East could have come up with something else if they so wished, but it's clear to me that marketing the links to the more successful 97 service is of greater importance to the company than coming up with a random brand name to encompass the new 11 service. Regardless of what the service is actually branded as, it's a huge step up for the current 96 service. Having route branding on this service allows potential for growth, and it brings it on the hierarchy of receiving newer vehicles in future.

Michael



19,175
09 Jul 2016, 10:51 am #126
(09 Jul 2016, 10:44 am)Dan As Adrian said - two services which share a common route have been grouped together by having a similar brand name, albeit on a different base coat. This gives Go North East some clear messages to sell to people in Gateshead and Newcastle, and allows the company to present things such as combined frequencies etc to key points along the route (ie Metrocentre).

This concept is not new, but it's something which appears to becoming more of a common trend now so perhaps we'll see more of it in the future in other areas. One of the first times this was used was of course with the Fab56 and Fab57, but in its current form, service 57 was actually linked more to service 58 than to service 56, which is why these services are now grouped together under the "Citylink" brand.

I'm sure Go North East could have come up with something else if they so wished, but it's clear to me that marketing the links to the more successful 97 service is of greater importance to the company than coming up with a random brand name to encompass the new 11 service. Regardless of what the service is actually branded as, it's a huge step up for the current 96 service. Having route branding on this service allows potential for growth, and it brings it on the hierarchy of receiving newer vehicles in future.

Both the passengers of the 17/17A and 96 are getting better buses, which is good, will they be launching new ticketing for the route?, such as: Blue Arrow day/week tickets.

If its successful, wouldn't be surprised to see new buses on the 11/11A in the next few years, hopefully we see new buses on the 2/2A and 61 this year.
Edited 09 Jul 2016, 10:53 am by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
09 Jul 2016, 10:51 am #126

(09 Jul 2016, 10:44 am)Dan As Adrian said - two services which share a common route have been grouped together by having a similar brand name, albeit on a different base coat. This gives Go North East some clear messages to sell to people in Gateshead and Newcastle, and allows the company to present things such as combined frequencies etc to key points along the route (ie Metrocentre).

This concept is not new, but it's something which appears to becoming more of a common trend now so perhaps we'll see more of it in the future in other areas. One of the first times this was used was of course with the Fab56 and Fab57, but in its current form, service 57 was actually linked more to service 58 than to service 56, which is why these services are now grouped together under the "Citylink" brand.

I'm sure Go North East could have come up with something else if they so wished, but it's clear to me that marketing the links to the more successful 97 service is of greater importance to the company than coming up with a random brand name to encompass the new 11 service. Regardless of what the service is actually branded as, it's a huge step up for the current 96 service. Having route branding on this service allows potential for growth, and it brings it on the hierarchy of receiving newer vehicles in future.

Both the passengers of the 17/17A and 96 are getting better buses, which is good, will they be launching new ticketing for the route?, such as: Blue Arrow day/week tickets.

If its successful, wouldn't be surprised to see new buses on the 11/11A in the next few years, hopefully we see new buses on the 2/2A and 61 this year.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,126
09 Jul 2016, 10:56 am #127
(09 Jul 2016, 10:51 am)Michael Both the passengers of the 17/17A and 96 are getting better buses, which is good, will they be launching new ticketing for the route?, such as: Blue Arrow day/week tickets.

If its successful, wouldn't be surprised to see new buses on the 11/11A in the next few years, hopefully we see new buses on the 2/2A and 61 this year.

Yes - younger buses being allocated to these services should, in theory, improve reliability too. Improved reliability (both in terms of timekeeping and fewer breakdowns) should improve customer confidence in this service which could also result in increased passenger numbers.

I'm not sure what the plans are for ticketing options on the new 11 service, but when service 57 joined the "Citylink" brand, the existing "Citylink" route saver for service 58 was extended to cover the 57 service too.
Dan
09 Jul 2016, 10:56 am #127

(09 Jul 2016, 10:51 am)Michael Both the passengers of the 17/17A and 96 are getting better buses, which is good, will they be launching new ticketing for the route?, such as: Blue Arrow day/week tickets.

If its successful, wouldn't be surprised to see new buses on the 11/11A in the next few years, hopefully we see new buses on the 2/2A and 61 this year.

Yes - younger buses being allocated to these services should, in theory, improve reliability too. Improved reliability (both in terms of timekeeping and fewer breakdowns) should improve customer confidence in this service which could also result in increased passenger numbers.

I'm not sure what the plans are for ticketing options on the new 11 service, but when service 57 joined the "Citylink" brand, the existing "Citylink" route saver for service 58 was extended to cover the 57 service too.

09 Jul 2016, 11:00 am #128
Im probably going off topic here, but 5214 has 2 of the left windows smashed, after a collision with 5293, which has lost its mirror and a little bit of the front window. Police, ambulances and engineers are currently at the scene. 5219 has stopped infront of 5214, but I dont know if that has been damaged. All buses using stand C and D are using stand A and B.
EL1TE
09 Jul 2016, 11:00 am #128

Im probably going off topic here, but 5214 has 2 of the left windows smashed, after a collision with 5293, which has lost its mirror and a little bit of the front window. Police, ambulances and engineers are currently at the scene. 5219 has stopped infront of 5214, but I dont know if that has been damaged. All buses using stand C and D are using stand A and B.

Michael



19,175
09 Jul 2016, 11:03 am #129
(09 Jul 2016, 11:00 am)EL1TE Im probably going off topic here, but 5214 has 2 of the left windows smashed, after a collision with 5293, which has lost its mirror and a little bit of the front window. Police, ambulances and engineers are currently at the scene. 5219 has stopped infront of 5214, but I dont know if that has been damaged. All buses using stand C and D are using stand A and B.

At Park Lane?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
09 Jul 2016, 11:03 am #129

(09 Jul 2016, 11:00 am)EL1TE Im probably going off topic here, but 5214 has 2 of the left windows smashed, after a collision with 5293, which has lost its mirror and a little bit of the front window. Police, ambulances and engineers are currently at the scene. 5219 has stopped infront of 5214, but I dont know if that has been damaged. All buses using stand C and D are using stand A and B.

At Park Lane?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

09 Jul 2016, 11:04 am #130
(09 Jul 2016, 11:03 am)Michael At Park Lane?

Gateshead probably.
Edited 09 Jul 2016, 11:07 am by R852 PRG.
R852 PRG
09 Jul 2016, 11:04 am #130

(09 Jul 2016, 11:03 am)Michael At Park Lane?

Gateshead probably.

09 Jul 2016, 11:05 am #131
(09 Jul 2016, 11:03 am)Michael At Park Lane?

No, it's at Heworth. Forgot to say!
EL1TE
09 Jul 2016, 11:05 am #131

(09 Jul 2016, 11:03 am)Michael At Park Lane?

No, it's at Heworth. Forgot to say!

Michael



19,175
09 Jul 2016, 11:08 am #132
(09 Jul 2016, 11:05 am)EL1TE No, it's at Heworth. Forgot to say!

No worries, =)

Also remembered after my post that 5293 is a Riverside bus Tongue

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
09 Jul 2016, 11:08 am #132

(09 Jul 2016, 11:05 am)EL1TE No, it's at Heworth. Forgot to say!

No worries, =)

Also remembered after my post that 5293 is a Riverside bus Tongue


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

09 Jul 2016, 11:24 am #133
(09 Jul 2016, 11:00 am)EL1TE Im probably going off topic here, but 5214 has 2 of the left windows smashed, after a collision with 5293, which has lost its mirror and a little bit of the front window. Police, ambulances and engineers are currently at the scene. 5219 has stopped infront of 5214, but I dont know if that has been damaged. All buses using stand C and D are using stand A and B.
5219 is ok, it's now at Gateshead Interchange
EL1TE
09 Jul 2016, 11:24 am #133

(09 Jul 2016, 11:00 am)EL1TE Im probably going off topic here, but 5214 has 2 of the left windows smashed, after a collision with 5293, which has lost its mirror and a little bit of the front window. Police, ambulances and engineers are currently at the scene. 5219 has stopped infront of 5214, but I dont know if that has been damaged. All buses using stand C and D are using stand A and B.
5219 is ok, it's now at Gateshead Interchange

Dan

Site Administrator

18,126
09 Jul 2016, 11:31 am #134
Once again, Go North East was awarded with the contract to operate the Park & Ride service for the Mouth of the Tyne Festival this year. In previous years, the service operated with "North Tyne Links" branded MPDs, with this year being the first year of operation for the new "indiGo" branded Optare Solo SRs.

[Image: 28157099966_fa641bc25d.jpg]Go North East: 0677 / NK16BXV by Daniel Graham, on Flickr


A full-size photo of recently repainted 627 can also be viewed on the link below:

[Image: 28157099056_e3847e0f31.jpg]Go North East: 0627 / NK61DBY by Daniel Graham, on Flickr
Dan
09 Jul 2016, 11:31 am #134

Once again, Go North East was awarded with the contract to operate the Park & Ride service for the Mouth of the Tyne Festival this year. In previous years, the service operated with "North Tyne Links" branded MPDs, with this year being the first year of operation for the new "indiGo" branded Optare Solo SRs.

[Image: 28157099966_fa641bc25d.jpg]Go North East: 0677 / NK16BXV by Daniel Graham, on Flickr


A full-size photo of recently repainted 627 can also be viewed on the link below:

[Image: 28157099056_e3847e0f31.jpg]Go North East: 0627 / NK61DBY by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

09 Jul 2016, 5:30 pm #135
[Image: ca620fc8779c654bb6a23d040c5ed274.jpg]

Was going back to the car today and spotted 8297 parked up in MetroCentre coach park near the entrance, wonder why it was there


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09 Jul 2016, 5:30 pm #135

[Image: ca620fc8779c654bb6a23d040c5ed274.jpg]

Was going back to the car today and spotted 8297 parked up in MetroCentre coach park near the entrance, wonder why it was there


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citaro5284



3,234
09 Jul 2016, 5:40 pm #136
Chances are that it was getting used as Staff Transport from Riverside to Metrocentre.
citaro5284
09 Jul 2016, 5:40 pm #136

Chances are that it was getting used as Staff Transport from Riverside to Metrocentre.

BusLoverMum



5,285
09 Jul 2016, 6:45 pm #137
3963 and 3964 have been popping up a bit in the treasures section. Is 3964 perhaps the most repainted 10 year old bus in any fleet in the Northeast?
BusLoverMum
09 Jul 2016, 6:45 pm #137

3963 and 3964 have been popping up a bit in the treasures section. Is 3964 perhaps the most repainted 10 year old bus in any fleet in the Northeast?

09 Jul 2016, 8:19 pm #138
(09 Jul 2016, 6:45 pm)BusLoverMum 3963 and 3964 have been popping up a bit in the treasures section. Is 3964 perhaps the most repainted 10 year old bus in any fleet in the Northeast?

Must be!
EL1TE
09 Jul 2016, 8:19 pm #138

(09 Jul 2016, 6:45 pm)BusLoverMum 3963 and 3964 have been popping up a bit in the treasures section. Is 3964 perhaps the most repainted 10 year old bus in any fleet in the Northeast?

Must be!

Josh



56
09 Jul 2016, 9:30 pm #139
(09 Jul 2016, 11:00 am)EL1TE Im probably going off topic here, but 5214 has 2 of the left windows smashed, after a collision with 5293, which has lost its mirror and a little bit of the front window. Police, ambulances and engineers are currently at the scene. 5219 has stopped infront of 5214, but I dont know if that has been damaged. All buses using stand C and D are using stand A and B.
Here is 5214 with the windows smashed. I was only meeting my friend until i noticed BLUE LIGHTS
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Josh
09 Jul 2016, 9:30 pm #139

(09 Jul 2016, 11:00 am)EL1TE Im probably going off topic here, but 5214 has 2 of the left windows smashed, after a collision with 5293, which has lost its mirror and a little bit of the front window. Police, ambulances and engineers are currently at the scene. 5219 has stopped infront of 5214, but I dont know if that has been damaged. All buses using stand C and D are using stand A and B.
Here is 5214 with the windows smashed. I was only meeting my friend until i noticed BLUE LIGHTS

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ne14ne1



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09 Jul 2016, 9:59 pm #140
Talking of service changes & vehicle features, I think its a bit of a shame that any blind or visually impaired residents of Hadrian Park, that currently benefit from Next Stop Announcements on Citylink58 services will lose this aid when the route is cut short, and replaced with the non-NSA equipped Citylink57 service.
Edited 09 Jul 2016, 10:00 pm by ne14ne1.
ne14ne1
09 Jul 2016, 9:59 pm #140

Talking of service changes & vehicle features, I think its a bit of a shame that any blind or visually impaired residents of Hadrian Park, that currently benefit from Next Stop Announcements on Citylink58 services will lose this aid when the route is cut short, and replaced with the non-NSA equipped Citylink57 service.

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