(10 Jul 2016, 5:42 pm)Adrian It's rare I get anything other than a Hybrid on the 21.
(10 Jul 2016, 5:42 pm)Adrian It's rare I get anything other than a Hybrid on the 21.
(10 Jul 2016, 6:16 pm)Ambassador Really? I use it every day. I'd say 1 in 3 is non hybrid. They don't even bother in the rare workings thread anymore
(10 Jul 2016, 6:16 pm)Ambassador Really? I use it every day. I'd say 1 in 3 is non hybrid. They don't even bother in the rare workings thread anymore
There's nowt on the GNE website (it will also affect the Scarlet Band service), but Pelaw Bank will be shut 17th July for the week, between the hours of 0930 and 1530.
Diversions galore and (I hope), some sort of shuttle bus.
One to keep an eye on.
(10 Jul 2016, 6:16 pm)Ambassador Really? I use it every day. I'd say 1 in 3 is non hybrid. They don't even bother in the rare workings thread anymore
(10 Jul 2016, 6:16 pm)Ambassador Really? I use it every day. I'd say 1 in 3 is non hybrid. They don't even bother in the rare workings thread anymore
I don't know if it has been mentioned here in the past, apologies if it has, but, the NSA's on the 21....
Shipcote. On the NSA's it is at first pronounced 'Ship-Cot' and then Shipcote.
Which on pretty much every bus leads to someone saying 'It's Shipcote, not Ship-Cot'
(11 Jul 2016, 6:05 am)LeeCalder I don't know if it has been mentioned here in the past, apologies if it has, but, the NSA's on the 21....
Shipcote. On the NSA's it is at first pronounced 'Ship-Cot' and then Shipcote.
Which on pretty much every bus leads to someone saying 'It's Shipcote, not Ship-Cot'
(11 Jul 2016, 6:05 am)LeeCalder I don't know if it has been mentioned here in the past, apologies if it has, but, the NSA's on the 21....
Shipcote. On the NSA's it is at first pronounced 'Ship-Cot' and then Shipcote.
Which on pretty much every bus leads to someone saying 'It's Shipcote, not Ship-Cot'
(09 Jul 2016, 8:03 am)Adrian Forgive my ignorance, but what's to not understand? Two services that share a common section of route, with almost a grouped brand? Makes perfect sense to me, and the colour will clearly help to differentiate the two to a customer.
Same concept applies to the Citylink 57 and 58.
(09 Jul 2016, 8:03 am)Adrian Forgive my ignorance, but what's to not understand? Two services that share a common section of route, with almost a grouped brand? Makes perfect sense to me, and the colour will clearly help to differentiate the two to a customer.
Same concept applies to the Citylink 57 and 58.
(09 Jul 2016, 10:44 am)Dan As Adrian said - two services which share a common route have been grouped together by having a similar brand name, albeit on a different base coat. This gives Go North East some clear messages to sell to people in Gateshead and Newcastle, and allows the company to present things such as combined frequencies etc to key points along the route (ie Metrocentre).
This concept is not new, but it's something which appears to becoming more of a common trend now so perhaps we'll see more of it in the future in other areas. One of the first times this was used was of course with the Fab56 and Fab57, but in its current form, service 57 was actually linked more to service 58 than to service 56, which is why these services are now grouped together under the "Citylink" brand.
I'm sure Go North East could have come up with something else if they so wished, but it's clear to me that marketing the links to the more successful 97 service is of greater importance to the company than coming up with a random brand name to encompass the new 11 service. Regardless of what the service is actually branded as, it's a huge step up for the current 96 service. Having route branding on this service allows potential for growth, and it brings it on the hierarchy of receiving newer vehicles in future.
(09 Jul 2016, 10:44 am)Dan As Adrian said - two services which share a common route have been grouped together by having a similar brand name, albeit on a different base coat. This gives Go North East some clear messages to sell to people in Gateshead and Newcastle, and allows the company to present things such as combined frequencies etc to key points along the route (ie Metrocentre).
This concept is not new, but it's something which appears to becoming more of a common trend now so perhaps we'll see more of it in the future in other areas. One of the first times this was used was of course with the Fab56 and Fab57, but in its current form, service 57 was actually linked more to service 58 than to service 56, which is why these services are now grouped together under the "Citylink" brand.
I'm sure Go North East could have come up with something else if they so wished, but it's clear to me that marketing the links to the more successful 97 service is of greater importance to the company than coming up with a random brand name to encompass the new 11 service. Regardless of what the service is actually branded as, it's a huge step up for the current 96 service. Having route branding on this service allows potential for growth, and it brings it on the hierarchy of receiving newer vehicles in future.
(10 Jul 2016, 6:46 am)citaro5284 The 58 is going to operate every 12 minutes according to the new timetable online, so you could not have every other one like now going to Hadrian Park and the service must not warrant everyone going to Hadrian Park, so replace that section of route with the 57 that operates on a 20 minute frequency as the Hadrian Park extension does now so the service is maintained, quite simple really
(10 Jul 2016, 6:46 am)citaro5284 The 58 is going to operate every 12 minutes according to the new timetable online, so you could not have every other one like now going to Hadrian Park and the service must not warrant everyone going to Hadrian Park, so replace that section of route with the 57 that operates on a 20 minute frequency as the Hadrian Park extension does now so the service is maintained, quite simple really
(11 Jul 2016, 9:50 am)palatine3833 Forgive my ignorance, but the common section of route is only Gateshead Interchange to Team Valley North. The routes deviate at every other point. If the new 11/11A operate the same way as the Green Arrow from Newcastle to Gateshead, it's a bit better.
(11 Jul 2016, 9:50 am)palatine3833 Forgive my ignorance, but the common section of route is only Gateshead Interchange to Team Valley North. The routes deviate at every other point. If the new 11/11A operate the same way as the Green Arrow from Newcastle to Gateshead, it's a bit better.
(11 Jul 2016, 9:58 am)S813 FVK Nobody said that the routes needed to be identical to eachother. The changes state that the new 11/11A will exit Newcastle via the High Level Bridge, which is the same way as the Green Arrow services.
(11 Jul 2016, 9:58 am)S813 FVK Nobody said that the routes needed to be identical to eachother. The changes state that the new 11/11A will exit Newcastle via the High Level Bridge, which is the same way as the Green Arrow services.
(11 Jul 2016, 10:05 am)palatine3833 I'm not saying that they have to be identical. What I'm saying is, they don't have anything in common bar the Newcastle to Lobley Hill section. That was the reason we were given for the Highwayman being withdrawn, because it was 'too complicated'.
(11 Jul 2016, 10:05 am)palatine3833 I'm not saying that they have to be identical. What I'm saying is, they don't have anything in common bar the Newcastle to Lobley Hill section. That was the reason we were given for the Highwayman being withdrawn, because it was 'too complicated'.
(11 Jul 2016, 10:16 am)S813 FVK Both services operate between Newcastle, Gateshead, Lobley Hill and Metrocentre. Yes they do split off from eachother after Lobley Hill, as you have pointed out already, but the link between the routes is still present.309/310 is another one in my opinion,people could argue that the 310 doesnt really touch the cobalt in compariaon to the 309 but it still falls under cobalt clipper,and both services split twice
On a similar note, the 8 and 78 both fall under the 'Coast & Country' brand but after Chester-le-Street, the routes don't come together again until Sunderland. I suppose its different as it is grouping the Stanley to Sunderland services together but they certainly don't follow eachother anywhere near as much as the old Diamond routes, for example. I'm sure other brands will be similar.
(11 Jul 2016, 10:16 am)S813 FVK Both services operate between Newcastle, Gateshead, Lobley Hill and Metrocentre. Yes they do split off from eachother after Lobley Hill, as you have pointed out already, but the link between the routes is still present.309/310 is another one in my opinion,people could argue that the 310 doesnt really touch the cobalt in compariaon to the 309 but it still falls under cobalt clipper,and both services split twice
On a similar note, the 8 and 78 both fall under the 'Coast & Country' brand but after Chester-le-Street, the routes don't come together again until Sunderland. I suppose its different as it is grouping the Stanley to Sunderland services together but they certainly don't follow eachother anywhere near as much as the old Diamond routes, for example. I'm sure other brands will be similar.
(11 Jul 2016, 10:37 am)V514DFT 309/310 is another one in my opinion,people could argue that the 310 doesnt really touch the cobalt in compariaon to the 309 but it still falls under cobalt clipper,and both services split twice
(11 Jul 2016, 10:37 am)V514DFT 309/310 is another one in my opinion,people could argue that the 310 doesnt really touch the cobalt in compariaon to the 309 but it still falls under cobalt clipper,and both services split twice
(11 Jul 2016, 2:28 pm)Michael 4974 will be going Blue for the "Blue Arrows"
6049/6053 will probables be getting a refresh
Not sure why 5293 and 8266 is at SM
(11 Jul 2016, 2:28 pm)Michael 4974 will be going Blue for the "Blue Arrows"
6049/6053 will probables be getting a refresh
Not sure why 5293 and 8266 is at SM
