(18 Jun 2019, 7:07 pm)Michael Its literally all she goes on about, she needs to change the record like.
All based on her constituents feedback though.
If they're moaning about x, she has to be seen to be doing something about it.
(18 Jun 2019, 7:08 pm)Andreos1
All based on her constituents feedback though.
If they're moaning about x, she has to be seen to be doing something about it.
(18 Jun 2019, 7:08 pm)Andreos1
All based on her constituents feedback though.
If they're moaning about x, she has to be seen to be doing something about it.
(18 Jun 2019, 7:33 pm)cbma06 She only vocal and in the press about campaigning getting the leamside line open when it’s an election year and then after elections been done then it goes all quiet again
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I'm as suspicious as the next man about politicians motives, but the thought of it being an election promise or something she would say in an election year seems a bit far fetched.
I've no idea when the next one is likely to be and on checking, the next scheduled one is in 2022. As much as I want one tomorrow, the tories aren't going to let that happen unfortunately.
(18 Jun 2019, 7:33 pm)cbma06 She only vocal and in the press about campaigning getting the leamside line open when it’s an election year and then after elections been done then it goes all quiet again
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I'm as suspicious as the next man about politicians motives, but the thought of it being an election promise or something she would say in an election year seems a bit far fetched.
I've no idea when the next one is likely to be and on checking, the next scheduled one is in 2022. As much as I want one tomorrow, the tories aren't going to let that happen unfortunately.
(20 Jun 2019, 1:12 pm)JP6004 Toon Tour timetable on nexus website. Every 30mins with duration of 55mins. Only running round newcastle/gateshead quaysideHave the tickets been announced yet? I assume it's going to operate similar to the AD122 where you have to buy a special ticket
(20 Jun 2019, 1:12 pm)JP6004 Toon Tour timetable on nexus website. Every 30mins with duration of 55mins. Only running round newcastle/gateshead quaysideHave the tickets been announced yet? I assume it's going to operate similar to the AD122 where you have to buy a special ticket
(20 Jun 2019, 1:12 pm)JP6004 Toon Tour timetable on nexus website. Every 30mins with duration of 55mins. Only running round newcastle/gateshead quayside
Shadowing or following closely to the Q1/2 and 3? Potential to dilute those services in some areas.
Depending on the prices, I've a choice between the Q3 and this open topper to get to/from the Ouseburn now.
(20 Jun 2019, 3:16 pm)streetdeckfan Have the tickets been announced yet? I assume it's going to operate similar to the AD122 where you have to buy a special ticket
An integrated ticket valid on the Q services might boost its popularity.
Id hope it wasn't stand-alone, as the extra charges and lack of integrated ticketing are amongst the reasons I've never bothered with the AD122.
(20 Jun 2019, 1:12 pm)JP6004 Toon Tour timetable on nexus website. Every 30mins with duration of 55mins. Only running round newcastle/gateshead quayside
Shadowing or following closely to the Q1/2 and 3? Potential to dilute those services in some areas.
Depending on the prices, I've a choice between the Q3 and this open topper to get to/from the Ouseburn now.
(20 Jun 2019, 3:16 pm)streetdeckfan Have the tickets been announced yet? I assume it's going to operate similar to the AD122 where you have to buy a special ticket
An integrated ticket valid on the Q services might boost its popularity.
Id hope it wasn't stand-alone, as the extra charges and lack of integrated ticketing are amongst the reasons I've never bothered with the AD122.
(20 Jun 2019, 3:56 pm)Andreos1I get not letting day or week tickets using the AD122 as then people would just but them tickets instead for less, but they could let us monthly ticket users on. It's not as if they'd lose much revenue because it's not exactly a normal route
Shadowing or following closely to the Q1/2 and 3? Potential to dilute those services in some areas.
Depending on the prices, I've a choice between the Q3 and this open topper to get to/from the Ouseburn now.
An integrated ticket valid on the Q services might boost its popularity.
Id hope it wasn't stand-alone, as the extra charges and lack of integrated ticketing are amongst the reasons I've never bothered with the AD122.
(20 Jun 2019, 3:56 pm)Andreos1I get not letting day or week tickets using the AD122 as then people would just but them tickets instead for less, but they could let us monthly ticket users on. It's not as if they'd lose much revenue because it's not exactly a normal route
Shadowing or following closely to the Q1/2 and 3? Potential to dilute those services in some areas.
Depending on the prices, I've a choice between the Q3 and this open topper to get to/from the Ouseburn now.
An integrated ticket valid on the Q services might boost its popularity.
Id hope it wasn't stand-alone, as the extra charges and lack of integrated ticketing are amongst the reasons I've never bothered with the AD122.
(20 Jun 2019, 3:56 pm)Andreos1
Shadowing or following closely to the Q1/2 and 3? Potential to dilute those services in some areas.
Depending on the prices, I've a choice between the Q3 and this open topper to get to/from the Ouseburn now.
An integrated ticket valid on the Q services might boost its popularity.
Id hope it wasn't stand-alone, as the extra charges and lack of integrated ticketing are amongst the reasons I've never bothered with the AD122.
I don't think that would be a good idea as it would dilute current Q services. Plus with the commentary recorded specifically for the tour.....I don't think passengers would appreciate the 55min trip to get round town
(20 Jun 2019, 3:56 pm)Andreos1
Shadowing or following closely to the Q1/2 and 3? Potential to dilute those services in some areas.
Depending on the prices, I've a choice between the Q3 and this open topper to get to/from the Ouseburn now.
An integrated ticket valid on the Q services might boost its popularity.
Id hope it wasn't stand-alone, as the extra charges and lack of integrated ticketing are amongst the reasons I've never bothered with the AD122.
I don't think that would be a good idea as it would dilute current Q services. Plus with the commentary recorded specifically for the tour.....I don't think passengers would appreciate the 55min trip to get round town
(20 Jun 2019, 4:06 pm)streetdeckfan I get not letting day or week tickets using the AD122 as then people would just but them tickets instead for less, but they could let us monthly ticket users on. It's not as if they'd lose much revenue because it's not exactly a normal route
I think it's finding the right balance. Priced right enough, so that existing pass holders use the service OR pricing it in such a way, that it becomes viable for families to use the service.
Families not living in the Tyne Valley are looking at driving all the way to Hexham (which defeats the point in getting the AD122 - might as well drive the rest of the way) or buying a family ticket of some sort, on top of the AD122 ticket.
Add any other costs on top and the service just isn't an option for many.
(20 Jun 2019, 4:11 pm)JP6004
I don't think that would be a good idea as it would dilute current Q services. Plus with the commentary recorded specifically for the tour.....I don't think passengers would appreciate the 55min trip to get round town
I suppose it depends where and when you're boarding or getting off.
If a Q3 isn't due, but this open topper is and you're trying to get to the Quayside from The Ouseburn, then the open topper could be an option.
Whereas if there's little integration, then the driver will be passing stops, with potential passengers waiting for his/her mate from the same depot (hopefully!) following on a few minutes behind.
I suppose it's like the AD122 example above. Price it too high or not allow any integration with existing products and you're not going to allow it to reach its potential. Especially a new product like this.
I do agree that it could dilute the existing services, but do think with the right marketing, the potential to dilute could be diminished.
(20 Jun 2019, 4:06 pm)streetdeckfan I get not letting day or week tickets using the AD122 as then people would just but them tickets instead for less, but they could let us monthly ticket users on. It's not as if they'd lose much revenue because it's not exactly a normal route
I think it's finding the right balance. Priced right enough, so that existing pass holders use the service OR pricing it in such a way, that it becomes viable for families to use the service.
Families not living in the Tyne Valley are looking at driving all the way to Hexham (which defeats the point in getting the AD122 - might as well drive the rest of the way) or buying a family ticket of some sort, on top of the AD122 ticket.
Add any other costs on top and the service just isn't an option for many.
(20 Jun 2019, 4:11 pm)JP6004
I don't think that would be a good idea as it would dilute current Q services. Plus with the commentary recorded specifically for the tour.....I don't think passengers would appreciate the 55min trip to get round town
I suppose it depends where and when you're boarding or getting off.
If a Q3 isn't due, but this open topper is and you're trying to get to the Quayside from The Ouseburn, then the open topper could be an option.
Whereas if there's little integration, then the driver will be passing stops, with potential passengers waiting for his/her mate from the same depot (hopefully!) following on a few minutes behind.
I suppose it's like the AD122 example above. Price it too high or not allow any integration with existing products and you're not going to allow it to reach its potential. Especially a new product like this.
I do agree that it could dilute the existing services, but do think with the right marketing, the potential to dilute could be diminished.
(16 Jun 2019, 6:09 am)Dan Indeed, lots of elderly and East Yorkshire B7s to get rid of before Go North East are in a position to get rid of buses.
The ex-London B9s are still fairly new to the fleet themselves, and have just been awarded funding from Gateshead Council to have an SCRT fitted to upgrade them to Euro 6. I wouldn't expect these to leave the fleet any time soon...
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(16 Jun 2019, 6:09 am)Dan Indeed, lots of elderly and East Yorkshire B7s to get rid of before Go North East are in a position to get rid of buses.
The ex-London B9s are still fairly new to the fleet themselves, and have just been awarded funding from Gateshead Council to have an SCRT fitted to upgrade them to Euro 6. I wouldn't expect these to leave the fleet any time soon...
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(16 Jun 2019, 6:09 am)Dan Indeed, lots of elderly and East Yorkshire B7s to get rid of before Go North East are in a position to get rid of buses.
The ex-London B9s are still fairly new to the fleet themselves, and have just been awarded funding from Gateshead Council to have an SCRT fitted to upgrade them to Euro 6. I wouldn't expect these to leave the fleet any time soon...
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Hopefully we see the following departing over the coming months.
Volvo B7TL East Lancs Vykings: 3967/68/70/71/73/74/75/76/77/83
Volvo B7TL Plaxton Presidents: 6010/17/33/6935/36/37/38/39/40/41
East Lancs Scania Omnidekkas: 3995/96 and 6122 to 6148
Just to note for others that the dual door 54reg Presidents 6920 to 6934 are Euro 5 which better than what is listed above which ranges from Euro 3 to Euro 4.
(16 Jun 2019, 6:09 am)Dan Indeed, lots of elderly and East Yorkshire B7s to get rid of before Go North East are in a position to get rid of buses.
The ex-London B9s are still fairly new to the fleet themselves, and have just been awarded funding from Gateshead Council to have an SCRT fitted to upgrade them to Euro 6. I wouldn't expect these to leave the fleet any time soon...
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Hopefully we see the following departing over the coming months.
Volvo B7TL East Lancs Vykings: 3967/68/70/71/73/74/75/76/77/83
Volvo B7TL Plaxton Presidents: 6010/17/33/6935/36/37/38/39/40/41
East Lancs Scania Omnidekkas: 3995/96 and 6122 to 6148
Just to note for others that the dual door 54reg Presidents 6920 to 6934 are Euro 5 which better than what is listed above which ranges from Euro 3 to Euro 4.
(21 Jun 2019, 3:45 pm)Malarkey
Hopefully we see the following departing over the coming months.
Volvo B7TL East Lancs Vykings: 3967/68/70/71/73/74/75/76/77/83
Volvo B7TL Plaxton Presidents: 6010/17/33/6935/36/37/38/39/40/41
East Lancs Scania Omnidekkas: 3995/96 and 6122 to 6148
Just to note for others that the dual door 54reg Presidents 6920 to 6934 are Euro 5 which better than what is listed above which ranges from Euro 3 to Euro 4.
So with most of the OmniDekkas going, will 6118-21 go on the 327 or will they go to EYMS / GNW?
(21 Jun 2019, 3:45 pm)Malarkey
Hopefully we see the following departing over the coming months.
Volvo B7TL East Lancs Vykings: 3967/68/70/71/73/74/75/76/77/83
Volvo B7TL Plaxton Presidents: 6010/17/33/6935/36/37/38/39/40/41
East Lancs Scania Omnidekkas: 3995/96 and 6122 to 6148
Just to note for others that the dual door 54reg Presidents 6920 to 6934 are Euro 5 which better than what is listed above which ranges from Euro 3 to Euro 4.
So with most of the OmniDekkas going, will 6118-21 go on the 327 or will they go to EYMS / GNW?
(21 Jun 2019, 3:45 pm)Malarkey
Hopefully we see the following departing over the coming months.
Volvo B7TL East Lancs Vykings: 3967/68/70/71/73/74/75/76/77/83
Volvo B7TL Plaxton Presidents: 6010/17/33/6935/36/37/38/39/40/41
East Lancs Scania Omnidekkas: 3995/96 and 6122 to 6148
Just to note for others that the dual door 54reg Presidents 6920 to 6934 are Euro 5 which better than what is listed above which ranges from Euro 3 to Euro 4.
Cant see omnidekkas going anywhere. Don't forget they have the EY livered presidents that will no doubt go first along with V reg presidents and vykings. Also this new order will be mainly withdrawing L94s
(21 Jun 2019, 3:45 pm)Malarkey
Hopefully we see the following departing over the coming months.
Volvo B7TL East Lancs Vykings: 3967/68/70/71/73/74/75/76/77/83
Volvo B7TL Plaxton Presidents: 6010/17/33/6935/36/37/38/39/40/41
East Lancs Scania Omnidekkas: 3995/96 and 6122 to 6148
Just to note for others that the dual door 54reg Presidents 6920 to 6934 are Euro 5 which better than what is listed above which ranges from Euro 3 to Euro 4.
Cant see omnidekkas going anywhere. Don't forget they have the EY livered presidents that will no doubt go first along with V reg presidents and vykings. Also this new order will be mainly withdrawing L94s
Or.......unbeknown to us, if Go Ahead have put a bid in for the Ashington operations (if Arriva sells in parts), they could lock 6118-21 away or just keep them on special work then when the time comes, refurbish and allocate them either on the X14 or X20. They'd be perfect due to their low mileage.
Probably not going to happen but would be a sensible option given their low mileage.
Or.......unbeknown to us, if Go Ahead have put a bid in for the Ashington operations (if Arriva sells in parts), they could lock 6118-21 away or just keep them on special work then when the time comes, refurbish and allocate them either on the X14 or X20. They'd be perfect due to their low mileage.
Probably not going to happen but would be a sensible option given their low mileage.
(21 Jun 2019, 4:38 pm)L469 YVKOr.......unbeknown to us, if Go Ahead have put a bid in for the Ashington operations (if Arriva sells in parts), they could lock 6118-21 away or just keep them on special work then when the time comes, refurbish and allocate them either on the X14 or X20. They'd be perfect due to their low mileage.
Probably not going to happen but would be a sensible option given their low mileage.
More than likely making up PVR of the 1 along with spares for 1 and 309/310
If operations are sold I'd imagine they would include the vehicles as well
(21 Jun 2019, 4:38 pm)L469 YVKOr.......unbeknown to us, if Go Ahead have put a bid in for the Ashington operations (if Arriva sells in parts), they could lock 6118-21 away or just keep them on special work then when the time comes, refurbish and allocate them either on the X14 or X20. They'd be perfect due to their low mileage.
Probably not going to happen but would be a sensible option given their low mileage.
More than likely making up PVR of the 1 along with spares for 1 and 309/310
If operations are sold I'd imagine they would include the vehicles as well
(20 Jun 2019, 1:12 pm)JP6004 Toon Tour timetable on nexus website. Every 30mins with duration of 55mins. Only running round newcastle/gateshead quayside
It travels around Central Newcastle & Ouseburn Valley as well as Newcastle Quayside and Gateshead Quays to be fair.
<meta charset="utf-8">Looks to be operating from Neville Street/Central Station, then probably past Centre for Life & up St James Boulevard so you'll see the Discovery Museum & the new part of the city, i.e. Newcastle Helix to the left and Hadrian's Tower to the right, onto Strawberry Place for St James' Park Stadium, past the Royal Victoria Infirmary & Newcastle University's nice buildings, down Claremont Road for the Great North Museum, you'll then see Newcastle Civic Centre, St Marys Place & the top of the Northumberland St/Haymarket, onto John Dobson Street for a glimpse of City Hall/City Pool, onto New Bridge Street past Northumbria University's School of Design, down Stepney Bank onto Lime Street for Ouseburn Valley/Seven Stories etc, onto City Road, past the Law Courts, along Quayside, around Sandhill & over the Swing Bridge past By The River Brew Co., along Hillgate Quay & South Shore Road for Baltic & Gateshead Millennium Bridge, up Hawks Road, into St Marys Square for Sage Gateshead, down Bridge Street (so presumably back over the Swing Bridge), Pilgrim Street, Market Street for a glimpse of Grey's Monument, turn down Grey Street for Theatre Royal & one of the UK's finest streets, along to St Nicholas Street for Newcastle Castle & more fine buildings opposite, and back to Neville Street.
I don't think they've really missed anything off really.
And here's the link for those interested: https://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/files/documents/bus/toont-gne-290619.pdf
(20 Jun 2019, 1:12 pm)JP6004 Toon Tour timetable on nexus website. Every 30mins with duration of 55mins. Only running round newcastle/gateshead quayside
It travels around Central Newcastle & Ouseburn Valley as well as Newcastle Quayside and Gateshead Quays to be fair.
<meta charset="utf-8">Looks to be operating from Neville Street/Central Station, then probably past Centre for Life & up St James Boulevard so you'll see the Discovery Museum & the new part of the city, i.e. Newcastle Helix to the left and Hadrian's Tower to the right, onto Strawberry Place for St James' Park Stadium, past the Royal Victoria Infirmary & Newcastle University's nice buildings, down Claremont Road for the Great North Museum, you'll then see Newcastle Civic Centre, St Marys Place & the top of the Northumberland St/Haymarket, onto John Dobson Street for a glimpse of City Hall/City Pool, onto New Bridge Street past Northumbria University's School of Design, down Stepney Bank onto Lime Street for Ouseburn Valley/Seven Stories etc, onto City Road, past the Law Courts, along Quayside, around Sandhill & over the Swing Bridge past By The River Brew Co., along Hillgate Quay & South Shore Road for Baltic & Gateshead Millennium Bridge, up Hawks Road, into St Marys Square for Sage Gateshead, down Bridge Street (so presumably back over the Swing Bridge), Pilgrim Street, Market Street for a glimpse of Grey's Monument, turn down Grey Street for Theatre Royal & one of the UK's finest streets, along to St Nicholas Street for Newcastle Castle & more fine buildings opposite, and back to Neville Street.
I don't think they've really missed anything off really.
And here's the link for those interested: https://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/files/documents/bus/toont-gne-290619.pdf
(21 Jun 2019, 4:55 pm)S813 FVK What is the obsession of getting rid of 6118-21? They're still going to be of some value to GNE for a long time yet.
We don't want rid of them haha. But with them being dealer stock vehicles, they'd most likely be a best fit within the EYMS fleet. But I think GNE will find a good use for them.
(21 Jun 2019, 4:55 pm)S813 FVK What is the obsession of getting rid of 6118-21? They're still going to be of some value to GNE for a long time yet.
We don't want rid of them haha. But with them being dealer stock vehicles, they'd most likely be a best fit within the EYMS fleet. But I think GNE will find a good use for them.
