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27 Jan 2017, 2:56 pm #441
(27 Jan 2017, 2:39 pm)Greg in Weardale This 49 livery is unoriginal and boring. Another step in the wrong direction .... and is proper branding on the way out? Why not keep Blaydon Racers? Or couldn't they think of a different name or colour, as happened with IndiGo.

Regardless of how uninspiring it is, you've got to think why bother slapping a 49 vinyl on it. If they wanted to bin off a strong service route identity they should have left them unbranded.
Edited 27 Jan 2017, 2:57 pm by RBZ 5459.


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27 Jan 2017, 2:56 pm #441

(27 Jan 2017, 2:39 pm)Greg in Weardale This 49 livery is unoriginal and boring. Another step in the wrong direction .... and is proper branding on the way out? Why not keep Blaydon Racers? Or couldn't they think of a different name or colour, as happened with IndiGo.

Regardless of how uninspiring it is, you've got to think why bother slapping a 49 vinyl on it. If they wanted to bin off a strong service route identity they should have left them unbranded.



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27 Jan 2017, 3:02 pm #442
(27 Jan 2017, 2:56 pm)RBZ 5459 Regardless of how uninspiring it is, you've got to think why bother slapping a 49 vinyl on it. If they wanted to bin off a strong service route identity they should have left them unbranded.

Just have to get used to it......  Angel Angel Angel

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Michael
27 Jan 2017, 3:02 pm #442

(27 Jan 2017, 2:56 pm)RBZ 5459 Regardless of how uninspiring it is, you've got to think why bother slapping a 49 vinyl on it. If they wanted to bin off a strong service route identity they should have left them unbranded.

Just have to get used to it......  Angel Angel Angel


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27 Jan 2017, 3:07 pm #443
(27 Jan 2017, 3:02 pm)Michael Just have to get used to it......  Angel Angel Angel

If it is to be rolled out across other services, I'd suspect it'll just be for the moderately performing routes, and not mainstream core money-makers.


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27 Jan 2017, 3:07 pm #443

(27 Jan 2017, 3:02 pm)Michael Just have to get used to it......  Angel Angel Angel

If it is to be rolled out across other services, I'd suspect it'll just be for the moderately performing routes, and not mainstream core money-makers.



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27 Jan 2017, 3:13 pm #444
(27 Jan 2017, 3:07 pm)RBZ 5459 If it is to be rolled out across other services, I'd suspect it'll just be for the moderately performing routes, and not mainstream core money-makers.

I would imagine so, it seems a good idea to do that, as it means routes will have their own identity and buses but i don't expect to see it on buses which are close to getting withdrawn (older Scania's and Presidents from London) or for routes which are fully funded by NEXUS to receive it.

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Michael
27 Jan 2017, 3:13 pm #444

(27 Jan 2017, 3:07 pm)RBZ 5459 If it is to be rolled out across other services, I'd suspect it'll just be for the moderately performing routes, and not mainstream core money-makers.

I would imagine so, it seems a good idea to do that, as it means routes will have their own identity and buses but i don't expect to see it on buses which are close to getting withdrawn (older Scania's and Presidents from London) or for routes which are fully funded by NEXUS to receive it.


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27 Jan 2017, 3:23 pm #445
The branding looks bland, just like the vehicle it's plastered on.

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27 Jan 2017, 3:23 pm #445

The branding looks bland, just like the vehicle it's plastered on.


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27 Jan 2017, 3:54 pm #446
I Hope the Blaydon Racers brand wont be lost as I thought it was quite effective. Hopefully its put on the 12 as thats an ideal route for it compared to the 49.

Just looking at this 49 brand though I think it looks quite good. Using the corporate livery well but also with noticeable route info. Not the most exciting brand but better than just the plain red and blue.

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27 Jan 2017, 3:54 pm #446

I Hope the Blaydon Racers brand wont be lost as I thought it was quite effective. Hopefully its put on the 12 as thats an ideal route for it compared to the 49.

Just looking at this 49 brand though I think it looks quite good. Using the corporate livery well but also with noticeable route info. Not the most exciting brand but better than just the plain red and blue.


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27 Jan 2017, 4:04 pm #447
(27 Jan 2017, 2:39 pm)Greg in Weardale This 49 livery is unoriginal and boring. Another step in the wrong direction .... and is proper branding on the way out? Why not keep Blaydon Racers? Or couldn't they think of a different name or colour, as happened with IndiGo.

Because it has very little relation to the 49/49A maybe? Neither service goes along Scotswood Road and only 1 service goes via Blaydon. I'd have expected a critical person like you to have presented that argument pretty quickly!
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27 Jan 2017, 4:04 pm #447

(27 Jan 2017, 2:39 pm)Greg in Weardale This 49 livery is unoriginal and boring. Another step in the wrong direction .... and is proper branding on the way out? Why not keep Blaydon Racers? Or couldn't they think of a different name or colour, as happened with IndiGo.

Because it has very little relation to the 49/49A maybe? Neither service goes along Scotswood Road and only 1 service goes via Blaydon. I'd have expected a critical person like you to have presented that argument pretty quickly!

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27 Jan 2017, 4:26 pm #448
(27 Jan 2017, 4:04 pm)S813 FVK Because it has very little relation to the 49/49A maybe? Neither service goes along Scotswood Road and only 1 service goes via Blaydon. I'd have expected a critical person like you to have presented that argument pretty quickly!

This is one of the reasons I'm glad the Blaydon Racers brand is being binned as this case used to crop up very regularly.
Jimmi
27 Jan 2017, 4:26 pm #448

(27 Jan 2017, 4:04 pm)S813 FVK Because it has very little relation to the 49/49A maybe? Neither service goes along Scotswood Road and only 1 service goes via Blaydon. I'd have expected a critical person like you to have presented that argument pretty quickly!

This is one of the reasons I'm glad the Blaydon Racers brand is being binned as this case used to crop up very regularly.

27 Jan 2017, 4:43 pm #449
I would like to see 5 of 5275-83/5331 retain their Blaydon Racers branding and allocated to the 12s, allowing 5234-38 to go onto the 28s, as it was hinted before that the 28 was to be upgraded soon.
Dans_bus_photos
27 Jan 2017, 4:43 pm #449

I would like to see 5 of 5275-83/5331 retain their Blaydon Racers branding and allocated to the 12s, allowing 5234-38 to go onto the 28s, as it was hinted before that the 28 was to be upgraded soon.

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27 Jan 2017, 4:44 pm #450
(27 Jan 2017, 11:58 am)Dan 5455:

[Image: 32171698350_79e04afaa0.jpg]Go North East: 5455 / NK66EWD by Daniel Graham, on Flickr
What about "The 49A" ???
park5354
27 Jan 2017, 4:44 pm #450

(27 Jan 2017, 11:58 am)Dan 5455:

[Image: 32171698350_79e04afaa0.jpg]Go North East: 5455 / NK66EWD by Daniel Graham, on Flickr
What about "The 49A" ???

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27 Jan 2017, 4:52 pm #451
I think it looks quite smart. Similar to what Brighton and Hove do with their route branding, which I do think works quite well.

I'd happily see this design rolled out to your so called 'secondary routes', and then keep full branding for the flagships.

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27 Jan 2017, 4:52 pm #451

I think it looks quite smart. Similar to what Brighton and Hove do with their route branding, which I do think works quite well.

I'd happily see this design rolled out to your so called 'secondary routes', and then keep full branding for the flagships.


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27 Jan 2017, 4:54 pm #452
(27 Jan 2017, 4:43 pm)Dans_bus_photos I would like to see 5 of 5275-83/5331 retain their Blaydon Racers branding and allocated to the 12s, allowing 5234-38 to go onto the 28s, as it was hinted before that the 28 was to be upgraded soon.


Hopefully, include a spare Citaro too (an extra spare to 4 routes) then the other 4 Citaro can go on a route with a PVR of 3 or 4.
Edited 27 Jan 2017, 4:55 pm by Michael.

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Michael
27 Jan 2017, 4:54 pm #452

(27 Jan 2017, 4:43 pm)Dans_bus_photos I would like to see 5 of 5275-83/5331 retain their Blaydon Racers branding and allocated to the 12s, allowing 5234-38 to go onto the 28s, as it was hinted before that the 28 was to be upgraded soon.


Hopefully, include a spare Citaro too (an extra spare to 4 routes) then the other 4 Citaro can go on a route with a PVR of 3 or 4.


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27 Jan 2017, 4:56 pm #453
(27 Jan 2017, 4:52 pm)Adrian I think it looks quite smart. Similar to what Brighton and Hove do with their route branding, which I do think works quite well.

I'd happily see this design rolled out to your so called 'secondary routes', and then keep full branding for the flagships.

So do I - it may not look flash but I think it still works. It also helps to add the feature blobs on the corporate liveried vehicles.
S813 FVK
27 Jan 2017, 4:56 pm #453

(27 Jan 2017, 4:52 pm)Adrian I think it looks quite smart. Similar to what Brighton and Hove do with their route branding, which I do think works quite well.

I'd happily see this design rolled out to your so called 'secondary routes', and then keep full branding for the flagships.

So do I - it may not look flash but I think it still works. It also helps to add the feature blobs on the corporate liveried vehicles.

Michael



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27 Jan 2017, 5:00 pm #454
(27 Jan 2017, 4:52 pm)Adrian I think it looks quite smart. Similar to what Brighton and Hove do with their route branding, which I do think works quite well.

I'd happily see this design rolled out to your so called 'secondary routes', and then keep full branding for the flagships.

Me too, hopefully that happens.

What do you class a "Flagship route" though? - Angel, Castles Express, Fab 56, Red Arrow is defiantly 4 but that's just some examples, don't think we will see it on older buses or NEXUS funded services though.
Edited 27 Jan 2017, 5:01 pm by Michael.

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Michael
27 Jan 2017, 5:00 pm #454

(27 Jan 2017, 4:52 pm)Adrian I think it looks quite smart. Similar to what Brighton and Hove do with their route branding, which I do think works quite well.

I'd happily see this design rolled out to your so called 'secondary routes', and then keep full branding for the flagships.

Me too, hopefully that happens.

What do you class a "Flagship route" though? - Angel, Castles Express, Fab 56, Red Arrow is defiantly 4 but that's just some examples, don't think we will see it on older buses or NEXUS funded services though.


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27 Jan 2017, 5:00 pm #455
(26 Jan 2017, 10:18 pm)Ambassador Are there still vehicle issues at Chester? The X12 has hopeless reliability lately so I've used the 21 all week and I've had an Omnidekka , a rammed 5401 or a rancid B7. It's doing no use at all to my data allowance or my bum cheeks!

I even let a packed 6038 leave only for bloody 5401 to turn up! Just assuming it's a combination of Hybrids getting tested/a much needed clean or some general off the roadness 

Edit to add, Quorum are in talks to allow the 554 to serve the business park following passenger complaints directly to Quorum. I can see the point. People will wait at Fourl Lane Ends or Quorum for a heavily delayed 555 sitting on Benton Park Road whilst 554 tends to sail through. Seems daft not to add capacity when it can only benefit passengers as a whole. Plus it means the 554 isn't selfishly blocking one lane of traffic at rush hour because it's so early.

3965 is being kept on scholars at the moment, so there is one accounted for.
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27 Jan 2017, 5:00 pm #455

(26 Jan 2017, 10:18 pm)Ambassador Are there still vehicle issues at Chester? The X12 has hopeless reliability lately so I've used the 21 all week and I've had an Omnidekka , a rammed 5401 or a rancid B7. It's doing no use at all to my data allowance or my bum cheeks!

I even let a packed 6038 leave only for bloody 5401 to turn up! Just assuming it's a combination of Hybrids getting tested/a much needed clean or some general off the roadness 

Edit to add, Quorum are in talks to allow the 554 to serve the business park following passenger complaints directly to Quorum. I can see the point. People will wait at Fourl Lane Ends or Quorum for a heavily delayed 555 sitting on Benton Park Road whilst 554 tends to sail through. Seems daft not to add capacity when it can only benefit passengers as a whole. Plus it means the 554 isn't selfishly blocking one lane of traffic at rush hour because it's so early.

3965 is being kept on scholars at the moment, so there is one accounted for.

27 Jan 2017, 5:13 pm #456
Its good to finally see what the 49's are. I thought it seemed like the 'Blaydon Racers' brand was being dropped from Dan's original comment that New buses had been ordered for the 49's and Not mentioned as for Blaydon Racers.

I think the new branding looks OK and smart, maybe a little bland.

I have always been of the opinion that the Blaydon Racers brand didn't suit the 49's as it didn't really resemble their route, whereas the 12's are far better suited to the brand since they "travel along the Scotswood Road" and serve Blaydon, I would like to see a come back of the Brand but hopefully on the 12's. Also I've never really liked the Toon Link brand. However I do think the Omnicity's look good in Black.

I will now be interesting to see where the Merc Citaros go from the Blaydon racers.
thetravelman
27 Jan 2017, 5:13 pm #456

Its good to finally see what the 49's are. I thought it seemed like the 'Blaydon Racers' brand was being dropped from Dan's original comment that New buses had been ordered for the 49's and Not mentioned as for Blaydon Racers.

I think the new branding looks OK and smart, maybe a little bland.

I have always been of the opinion that the Blaydon Racers brand didn't suit the 49's as it didn't really resemble their route, whereas the 12's are far better suited to the brand since they "travel along the Scotswood Road" and serve Blaydon, I would like to see a come back of the Brand but hopefully on the 12's. Also I've never really liked the Toon Link brand. However I do think the Omnicity's look good in Black.

I will now be interesting to see where the Merc Citaros go from the Blaydon racers.

Adrian



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27 Jan 2017, 5:14 pm #457
(27 Jan 2017, 5:00 pm)Michael Me too, hopefully that happens.

What do you class a "Flagship route" though? - Angel, Castles Express, Fab 56, Red Arrow is defiantly 4 but that's just some examples, don't think we will see it on older buses or NEXUS funded services though.

All depends what the business objectives are, but I'd say whatever is making a high margin and/or it can be demonstrated there is a track record of stable organic growth.

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27 Jan 2017, 5:14 pm #457

(27 Jan 2017, 5:00 pm)Michael Me too, hopefully that happens.

What do you class a "Flagship route" though? - Angel, Castles Express, Fab 56, Red Arrow is defiantly 4 but that's just some examples, don't think we will see it on older buses or NEXUS funded services though.

All depends what the business objectives are, but I'd say whatever is making a high margin and/or it can be demonstrated there is a track record of stable organic growth.


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27 Jan 2017, 5:18 pm #458
This morning around 9:30am I saw a Blue 'Durham Diamond' Merc Citaro going around Cramlington Nelson Industrial Estate 'Not In Service'. It then parked up at a bus stop on Nelson Road for about 5 mins then set off again. I wasn't close enough to ID it.

Not sure why it was there, but AVID Technology is close by on Admiral Business Park.
thetravelman
27 Jan 2017, 5:18 pm #458

This morning around 9:30am I saw a Blue 'Durham Diamond' Merc Citaro going around Cramlington Nelson Industrial Estate 'Not In Service'. It then parked up at a bus stop on Nelson Road for about 5 mins then set off again. I wasn't close enough to ID it.

Not sure why it was there, but AVID Technology is close by on Admiral Business Park.

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27 Jan 2017, 5:23 pm #459
As has been said before with depot standardisation maybe the mercs might go on to the 12s releasing the omnicities to Stanley for the 6/x70/x71 along with Deckers to make up the pvr
GX03
27 Jan 2017, 5:23 pm #459

As has been said before with depot standardisation maybe the mercs might go on to the 12s releasing the omnicities to Stanley for the 6/x70/x71 along with Deckers to make up the pvr

Michael



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27 Jan 2017, 5:34 pm #460
(27 Jan 2017, 5:23 pm)GX03 As has been said before with depot standardisation maybe the mercs might go on to the 12s releasing the omnicities to Stanley for the 6/x70/x71 along with Deckers to make up the pvr

Wouldn't be surprised, the only other depots with Omnicities are Washington, Percy Main and Stanley so really one of those should get them.

They have a few options on what to do with the Omnicities:


Percy Main for the 19? It then releases the B7RLE else where in the fleet.
Washington - i doubt they would receive anymore, they won't be able to have them out on a daily bases, as all other routes are branded. 
Stanley - as above, the 6/X70/X71 but i'm not sure if GNE will want a mixed allocation.
Riverside - nothing which could be used on.


I can see them going to Percy Main for the 19, releases the B7RLE's, hopefully to a route like the 61, which needs better buses than those horrid Versa's!


Pure speculation though.

(27 Jan 2017, 5:18 pm)thetravelman This morning around 9:30am I saw a Blue 'Durham Diamond' Merc Citaro going around Cramlington Nelson Industrial Estate 'Not In Service'. It then parked up at a bus stop on Nelson Road for about 5 mins then set off again. I wasn't close enough to ID it.

Not sure why it was there, but AVID Technology is close by on Admiral Business Park.

Could of been getting ready to go to Blackburn for it's refurbishment.
Edited 27 Jan 2017, 5:36 pm by Michael.

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Michael
27 Jan 2017, 5:34 pm #460

(27 Jan 2017, 5:23 pm)GX03 As has been said before with depot standardisation maybe the mercs might go on to the 12s releasing the omnicities to Stanley for the 6/x70/x71 along with Deckers to make up the pvr

Wouldn't be surprised, the only other depots with Omnicities are Washington, Percy Main and Stanley so really one of those should get them.

They have a few options on what to do with the Omnicities:


Percy Main for the 19? It then releases the B7RLE else where in the fleet.
Washington - i doubt they would receive anymore, they won't be able to have them out on a daily bases, as all other routes are branded. 
Stanley - as above, the 6/X70/X71 but i'm not sure if GNE will want a mixed allocation.
Riverside - nothing which could be used on.


I can see them going to Percy Main for the 19, releases the B7RLE's, hopefully to a route like the 61, which needs better buses than those horrid Versa's!


Pure speculation though.

(27 Jan 2017, 5:18 pm)thetravelman This morning around 9:30am I saw a Blue 'Durham Diamond' Merc Citaro going around Cramlington Nelson Industrial Estate 'Not In Service'. It then parked up at a bus stop on Nelson Road for about 5 mins then set off again. I wasn't close enough to ID it.

Not sure why it was there, but AVID Technology is close by on Admiral Business Park.

Could of been getting ready to go to Blackburn for it's refurbishment.


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