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Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2017
#81
New cheaper return fares for areas of Sunderland

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and...d70f99be49
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#82
(Yesterday, 11:38)citaro5284 Wrote: New cheaper return fares for areas of Sunderland

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and...d70f99be49

Not bad prices, least you can use it on the 3 and 4 in the same area's.


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Stagecoach also have a offer on for the new X24:


To celebrate the launch of the X24 we are offering an introductory 1 week fare exclusive to service X24!

Between 30 January-4 February 2017, 1 week tickets will be £5.00.

Between 6 February-11 February 2017, 1 week tickets will be £10.00.

From 13 February onward the best 7 day ticket is the £13.35 Tyne and Wear Megarider, valid on Stagecoach throughout Tyne and Wear. 


https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and...h-east/x24
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#83
(Yesterday, 11:55)Michael Wrote: Not bad prices, least you can use it on the 3 and 4 in the same area's.


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Stagecoach also have a offer on for the new X24:


To celebrate the launch of the X24 we are offering an introductory 1 week fare exclusive to service X24!

Between 30 January-4 February 2017, 1 week tickets will be £5.00.

Between 6 February-11 February 2017, 1 week tickets will be £10.00.

From 13 February onward the best 7 day ticket is the £13.35 Tyne and Wear Megarider, valid on Stagecoach throughout Tyne and Wear. 


https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and...h-east/x24


Looks like you can only buy the cheap return fares from service 12 and 13 only, but can use the return ticket on service 3,4,12 and 13


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#84
(Yesterday, 11:55)Michael Wrote: Not bad prices, least you can use it on the 3 and 4 in the same area's.

Tremendous prices, really, but it'll be interesting to see how it pans out in the long term.

I've always thought that Stagecoach's day ticket represents very good value for money, but at the same time, wondered how much money they must make from that ticket. Now they're introducing even cheaper return tickets which represent even better value for money, for infrequent travellers.

Crusader made an interesting point recently elsewhere on the forum here. Competition is all well and good - only time will tell what sort of impact this will have on both Stagecoach and Go North East's services operating between the City Centre and Silksworth. If neither operator is making money on these services, we could well see further cutbacks (from either operator).
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#85
(Yesterday, 12:22)Dan Wrote: Tremendous prices, really, but it'll be interesting to see how it pans out in the long term.

I've always thought that Stagecoach's day ticket represents very good value for money, but at the same time, wondered how much money they must make from that ticket. Now they're introducing even cheaper return tickets which represent even better value for money, for infrequent travellers.

Crusader made an interesting point recently elsewhere on the forum here. Competition is all well and good - only time will tell what sort of impact this will have on both Stagecoach and Go North East's services operating between the City Centre and Silksworth. If neither operator is making money on these services, we could well see further cutbacks (from either operator).

12 and 13 haven't had any cuts in this upcoming changes, so they must be doing ok on a 20 minute frequency (10 combined) but doesn't mean they won't in the future.

I'm expecting the 18 to go by end of the year, they cut it last year and now later in the month it's cut again so expecting more later in the year.
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#86
(Yesterday, 12:26)Michael Wrote: 12 and 13 haven't had any cuts in this upcoming changes, so they must be doing ok on a 20 minute frequency (10 combined)

Yes; but if passengers currently buying a dayrider for £3.95 opt to purchase a return of £2.60 instead (£1.35 difference), and the reduction in price doesn't attract enough passengers to cover this, further cutbacks could come in the future.

In order to make £395.00, Stagecoach need to sell 100 dayriders. If all 100 of these passengers opt for a £2.60 return instead, they'd only make £260.00 (a loss of £135.00). They'd have to attract an additional 52 passengers buying return tickets to cover the loss, in this example. If Stagecoach only manage to attract an additional 30 passengers from Go North East, they won't have covered their losses, and Go North East's profits will be dented too, potentially resulting in cutbacks on both Stagecoach and Go North East's services in this area.

Obviously it's not quite as simple as that, but just to throw a few simple numbers into the equation. Competition can be great for passengers (and I think the X24 is a great example of this), but competition in areas where there is already dense competition, has the chance to backfire and at the detriment of passengers.
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#87
(Yesterday, 12:22)Dan Wrote: Tremendous prices, really, but it'll be interesting to see how it pans out in the long term.

I've always thought that Stagecoach's day ticket represents very good value for money, but at the same time, wondered how much money they must make from that ticket. Now they're introducing even cheaper return tickets which represent even better value for money, for infrequent travellers.

Crusader made an interesting point recently elsewhere on the forum here. Competition is all well and good - only time will tell what sort of impact this will have on both Stagecoach and Go North East's services operating between the City Centre and Silksworth. If neither operator is making money on these services, we could well see further cutbacks (from either operator).

GNE are £2.70 for a return Silksworth to Sunderland so not a massive difference to be fair.
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#88
(Yesterday, 12:35)Dan Wrote: Yes; but if passengers currently buying a dayrider for £3.95 opt to purchase a return of £2.60 instead (£1.35 difference), and the reduction in price doesn't attract enough passengers to cover this, further cutbacks could come in the future.

In order to make £395.00, Stagecoach need to sell 100 dayriders. If all 100 of these passengers opt for a £2.60 return instead, they'd only make £260.00 (a loss of £135.00). They'd have to attract an additional 52 passengers buying return tickets to cover the loss, in this example. If Stagecoach only manage to attract an additional 30 passengers from Go North East, they won't have covered their losses, and Go North East's profits will be dented too, potentially resulting in cutbacks on both Stagecoach and Go North East's services in this area.

Obviously it's not quite as simple as that, but just to throw a few simple numbers into the equation. Competition can be great for passengers (and I think the X24 is a great example of this), but competition in areas where there is already dense competition, has the chance to backfire and at the detriment of passengers.

Ye, it'll have an impact on both companies in the area.

The X24 is great competition for GNE, i think i can see a few people jumping to the X24 between Sunderland and Hastings Hill because of the price of the day ticket and the Tyne and Wear day ticket prices and it only takes 43 minutes, it also offers WIFI, and the possibility of plugs (if they can get them working!) something which the 2/2A doesn't have at the minute (going by the the route so not including the 56).

From Sunderland to Washington to Galleries takes 42 minutes and then 35 minutes on the X1 taking a total of 77 minutes (not including waiting times between 2/2A and X1)

I know which service i would go for!

Unless GNE will sort out that problem and launch their own service via the X24 route!
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#89
(Yesterday, 11:38)citaro5284 Wrote: New cheaper return fares for areas of Sunderland

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and...d70f99be49

It's that corridor again...
There's obviously a market and a demand (just look at previous price offers and the number of routes operating in those areas). Is there a market to sustain the competition and two operators?
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#90
(Yesterday, 19:42)Andreos1 Wrote: It's that corridor again...
There's obviously a market and a demand (just look at previous price offers and the number of routes operating in those areas). Is there a market to sustain the competition and two operators?

Probables not but it's going to be interesting to see how it pans out.
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