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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2017

Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2017

 
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L469 YVK



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26 Mar 2017, 6:24 pm #121
(26 Mar 2017, 5:20 pm)omnicity4659 Nobody uses the late night services. The 2045 Ashington-Newcastle X22 was empty when I saw it arrive in Newcastle, and only picked up a few punters heading back, then one person for the Bedlington short. I can't see Blyth, with more services running at this time (which were dead too), getting services past midnight.

Got to bear in mind that the reason why the X22 runs at xx:45 is because it's the least popular service out of the 2x services. That was the whole reason why the X21 despite putting Sunday travellers heading into Newcastle at a slight disadvantage (i.e if starting work on the hour and having to wait around), was moved around. The same goes for the 35 from Morpeth.

I know that Ashington wouldn't suit any super late services but I think a night bus version of the 308 and perhaps the X10 or X11 (serving Wideopen, Seaton Burn and Dudley too) 'could' work.

When GNE tried the N58 when it used to serve Whitley Bay, one of the factors why it probably didn't work is that barring Battle Hill; High Farm; Hadrian Park etc, GNE didn't have too much of a presence between Willington Square and Whitley Bay due to it being Arriva territory.

As long as the fares were reasonable (single fares only, no passes, reduced fares or other such tickets allowed etc), I think it could stand a chance of working:

Day Fare less than or equal to £2 = Additional £0.50 on night bus
Day Fare more then £2 = Additional £1.00 on night bus


Although a Taxi would still work out better if travelling in groups of 4, in most cases the bus could still provide good value if travelling in groups of 2x or 3x people. Plus, at the busier times or nights of the year when you're waiting 1hr+ for a Blueline or LA etc and your only option is to jump in a Black Cab (which means £££££), it would be a no brainer to use the night bus.
Edited 26 Mar 2017, 6:25 pm by L469 YVK.
L469 YVK
26 Mar 2017, 6:24 pm #121

(26 Mar 2017, 5:20 pm)omnicity4659 Nobody uses the late night services. The 2045 Ashington-Newcastle X22 was empty when I saw it arrive in Newcastle, and only picked up a few punters heading back, then one person for the Bedlington short. I can't see Blyth, with more services running at this time (which were dead too), getting services past midnight.

Got to bear in mind that the reason why the X22 runs at xx:45 is because it's the least popular service out of the 2x services. That was the whole reason why the X21 despite putting Sunday travellers heading into Newcastle at a slight disadvantage (i.e if starting work on the hour and having to wait around), was moved around. The same goes for the 35 from Morpeth.

I know that Ashington wouldn't suit any super late services but I think a night bus version of the 308 and perhaps the X10 or X11 (serving Wideopen, Seaton Burn and Dudley too) 'could' work.

When GNE tried the N58 when it used to serve Whitley Bay, one of the factors why it probably didn't work is that barring Battle Hill; High Farm; Hadrian Park etc, GNE didn't have too much of a presence between Willington Square and Whitley Bay due to it being Arriva territory.

As long as the fares were reasonable (single fares only, no passes, reduced fares or other such tickets allowed etc), I think it could stand a chance of working:

Day Fare less than or equal to £2 = Additional £0.50 on night bus
Day Fare more then £2 = Additional £1.00 on night bus


Although a Taxi would still work out better if travelling in groups of 4, in most cases the bus could still provide good value if travelling in groups of 2x or 3x people. Plus, at the busier times or nights of the year when you're waiting 1hr+ for a Blueline or LA etc and your only option is to jump in a Black Cab (which means £££££), it would be a no brainer to use the night bus.

26 Mar 2017, 10:00 pm #122
Both services are as popular as each other!
omnicity4659
26 Mar 2017, 10:00 pm #122

Both services are as popular as each other!

BusLoverMum



5,281
28 Mar 2017, 8:15 am #123
Belmont appear to be installing the contactless technology, this week. 1596 has it, today. 1598 didn't yesterday.

Annoyingly, the tickets are now longer, so don't fit in my holder.
BusLoverMum
28 Mar 2017, 8:15 am #123

Belmont appear to be installing the contactless technology, this week. 1596 has it, today. 1598 didn't yesterday.

Annoyingly, the tickets are now longer, so don't fit in my holder.

BusLoverMum



5,281
28 Mar 2017, 6:02 pm #124
Spot the difference (other than the timestamp which demonstrates only that this run is consistently late, this week!)
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BusLoverMum
28 Mar 2017, 6:02 pm #124

Spot the difference (other than the timestamp which demonstrates only that this run is consistently late, this week!)

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28 Mar 2017, 6:30 pm #125
(28 Mar 2017, 6:02 pm)BusLoverMum Spot the difference (other than the timestamp which demonstrates only that this run is consistently late, this week!)

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NK53 TKT
28 Mar 2017, 6:30 pm #125

(28 Mar 2017, 6:02 pm)BusLoverMum Spot the difference (other than the timestamp which demonstrates only that this run is consistently late, this week!)

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2bagstew



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28 Mar 2017, 6:42 pm #126
(28 Mar 2017, 6:02 pm)BusLoverMum Spot the difference (other than the timestamp which demonstrates only that this run is consistently late, this week!)


I see Arriva have increased the fares
On the APP it still says £7.80 for the all zone ticket. This need to be sorted quickly



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2bagstew
28 Mar 2017, 6:42 pm #126

(28 Mar 2017, 6:02 pm)BusLoverMum Spot the difference (other than the timestamp which demonstrates only that this run is consistently late, this week!)


I see Arriva have increased the fares
On the APP it still says £7.80 for the all zone ticket. This need to be sorted quickly



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Ambassador



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28 Mar 2017, 6:56 pm #127
Arriva are axing the 60p discount fare on the 555 Quorum shuttle.

It'll be a £1.10 single or a £1.90 return. A £5.50 Q Card Weekly Saver or £20 for a week iis being introduced (555 and 52 only between Quorum and Four Lane Ends)

Considering the roadworks coming up in July for 6 months and the traffic chaos that will follow, this can only drive numbers dow on the route.

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
28 Mar 2017, 6:56 pm #127

Arriva are axing the 60p discount fare on the 555 Quorum shuttle.

It'll be a £1.10 single or a £1.90 return. A £5.50 Q Card Weekly Saver or £20 for a week iis being introduced (555 and 52 only between Quorum and Four Lane Ends)

Considering the roadworks coming up in July for 6 months and the traffic chaos that will follow, this can only drive numbers dow on the route.


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

mb134



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28 Mar 2017, 7:35 pm #128
(28 Mar 2017, 6:42 pm)2bagstew I see Arriva have increased the fares
On the APP it still says £7.80 for the all zone ticket. This need to be sorted quickly



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That isn't an 'All Zone' ticket though, it's an Explorer.
mb134
28 Mar 2017, 7:35 pm #128

(28 Mar 2017, 6:42 pm)2bagstew I see Arriva have increased the fares
On the APP it still says £7.80 for the all zone ticket. This need to be sorted quickly



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That isn't an 'All Zone' ticket though, it's an Explorer.

Multi21



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28 Mar 2017, 9:23 pm #129
(28 Mar 2017, 6:02 pm)BusLoverMum Spot the difference (other than the timestamp which demonstrates only that this run is consistently late, this week!)

(28 Mar 2017, 6:42 pm)2bagstew I see Arriva have increased the fares
On the APP it still says £7.80 for the all zone ticket. This need to be sorted quickly



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@Bus Lovers Mum - Fold over the bottom of the ticket that's what I've seen most people do as long as the ticket type and date are both showing you shouldn't have a problem 

@2 bag stew - The ticket on the app is the Arriva All Zones Day Ticket which covers travel on any Arriva bus in the north east (excluding Whitby Park and ride I believe). The ticket you see in the screenshot is a Explorer North East which is valid on most services across the North East including the Tyne and Wear Metro and Shields ferry which for an extra 1.90 isn't bad going if you think about it.
Multi21
28 Mar 2017, 9:23 pm #129

(28 Mar 2017, 6:02 pm)BusLoverMum Spot the difference (other than the timestamp which demonstrates only that this run is consistently late, this week!)

(28 Mar 2017, 6:42 pm)2bagstew I see Arriva have increased the fares
On the APP it still says £7.80 for the all zone ticket. This need to be sorted quickly



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@Bus Lovers Mum - Fold over the bottom of the ticket that's what I've seen most people do as long as the ticket type and date are both showing you shouldn't have a problem 

@2 bag stew - The ticket on the app is the Arriva All Zones Day Ticket which covers travel on any Arriva bus in the north east (excluding Whitby Park and ride I believe). The ticket you see in the screenshot is a Explorer North East which is valid on most services across the North East including the Tyne and Wear Metro and Shields ferry which for an extra 1.90 isn't bad going if you think about it.

BusLoverMum



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28 Mar 2017, 10:06 pm #130
(28 Mar 2017, 6:42 pm)2bagstew I see Arriva have increased the fares
On the APP it still says £7.80 for the all zone ticket. This need to be sorted quickly



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That's the standard fare for an explorer, across all operators who issue them.

(28 Mar 2017, 9:23 pm)Multi21 @Bus Lovers Mum - Fold over the bottom of the ticket that's what I've seen most people do as long as the ticket type and date are both showing you shouldn't have a problem 

@2 bag stew - The ticket on the app is the Arriva All Zones Day Ticket which covers travel on any Arriva bus in the north east (excluding Whitby Park and ride I believe). The ticket you see in the screenshot is a Explorer North East which is valid on most services across the North East including the Tyne and Wear Metro and Shields ferry which for an extra 1.90 isn't bad going if you think about it.

It's fine when it's just me, but when I'm carrying a ticket for Big'un, I can no longer fit both in, together, without tearing them.

And yeah, the extra £1.90 is well worth it when I'm travelling to Newcastle - with the £7.80 ticket, I only have the option of the X12. With the explorer, you can add in the GNE services, X21, 21 and even the X30/X31 followed by the 16/16, or if I'm feeling really radical, I can get the metro or Stagecoach X24 to Sunderland and get a bus straight home from there. i could in theory get the X9 to Peterlee, but the connection is a duff one - much like the X12 when it gets back to DBS, in fact - I hopped on that at CLS, after an aborted trip to Newcastle, yesterday morning, and had time to run up to M&S on Silver Street to grab some of the shopping I couldn't get at Waitrose, after the morning's agenda was complete, before catching my 22, because I'd missed the previous one by 5 minutes.
Edited 28 Mar 2017, 10:15 pm by BusLoverMum.
BusLoverMum
28 Mar 2017, 10:06 pm #130

(28 Mar 2017, 6:42 pm)2bagstew I see Arriva have increased the fares
On the APP it still says £7.80 for the all zone ticket. This need to be sorted quickly



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That's the standard fare for an explorer, across all operators who issue them.

(28 Mar 2017, 9:23 pm)Multi21 @Bus Lovers Mum - Fold over the bottom of the ticket that's what I've seen most people do as long as the ticket type and date are both showing you shouldn't have a problem 

@2 bag stew - The ticket on the app is the Arriva All Zones Day Ticket which covers travel on any Arriva bus in the north east (excluding Whitby Park and ride I believe). The ticket you see in the screenshot is a Explorer North East which is valid on most services across the North East including the Tyne and Wear Metro and Shields ferry which for an extra 1.90 isn't bad going if you think about it.

It's fine when it's just me, but when I'm carrying a ticket for Big'un, I can no longer fit both in, together, without tearing them.

And yeah, the extra £1.90 is well worth it when I'm travelling to Newcastle - with the £7.80 ticket, I only have the option of the X12. With the explorer, you can add in the GNE services, X21, 21 and even the X30/X31 followed by the 16/16, or if I'm feeling really radical, I can get the metro or Stagecoach X24 to Sunderland and get a bus straight home from there. i could in theory get the X9 to Peterlee, but the connection is a duff one - much like the X12 when it gets back to DBS, in fact - I hopped on that at CLS, after an aborted trip to Newcastle, yesterday morning, and had time to run up to M&S on Silver Street to grab some of the shopping I couldn't get at Waitrose, after the morning's agenda was complete, before catching my 22, because I'd missed the previous one by 5 minutes.

citaro5284



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29 Mar 2017, 4:54 am #131
(28 Mar 2017, 10:06 pm)BusLoverMum And yeah, the extra £1.90 is well worth it when I'm travelling to Newcastle - with the £7.80 ticket, I only have the option of the X12. With the explorer, you can add in the GNE services, X21, 21 and even the X30/X31 followed by the 16/16, or if I'm feeling really radical, I can get the metro or Stagecoach X24 to Sunderland and get a bus straight home from there. i could in theory get the X9 to Peterlee, but the connection is a duff one - much like the X12 when it gets back to DBS, in fact - I hopped on that at CLS, after an aborted trip to Newcastle, yesterday morning, and had time to run up to M&S on Silver Street to grab some of the shopping I couldn't get at Waitrose, after the morning's agenda was complete, before catching my 22, because I'd missed the previous one by 5 minutes.

By mind BLM, you certainly know all your options  Big Grin
citaro5284
29 Mar 2017, 4:54 am #131

(28 Mar 2017, 10:06 pm)BusLoverMum And yeah, the extra £1.90 is well worth it when I'm travelling to Newcastle - with the £7.80 ticket, I only have the option of the X12. With the explorer, you can add in the GNE services, X21, 21 and even the X30/X31 followed by the 16/16, or if I'm feeling really radical, I can get the metro or Stagecoach X24 to Sunderland and get a bus straight home from there. i could in theory get the X9 to Peterlee, but the connection is a duff one - much like the X12 when it gets back to DBS, in fact - I hopped on that at CLS, after an aborted trip to Newcastle, yesterday morning, and had time to run up to M&S on Silver Street to grab some of the shopping I couldn't get at Waitrose, after the morning's agenda was complete, before catching my 22, because I'd missed the previous one by 5 minutes.

By mind BLM, you certainly know all your options  Big Grin

Cock Robin



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29 Mar 2017, 8:51 am #132
Didn't realise Ashington bus station shut last weekend til read in UEC newsletter!
Edited 29 Mar 2017, 11:11 am by Cock Robin.
Cock Robin
29 Mar 2017, 8:51 am #132

Didn't realise Ashington bus station shut last weekend til read in UEC newsletter!

BusLoverMum



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29 Mar 2017, 10:24 am #133
(29 Mar 2017, 4:54 am)citaro5284 By mind BLM, you certainly know all your options  Big Grin

Those are just all the sub 2hour ones Wink
BusLoverMum
29 Mar 2017, 10:24 am #133

(29 Mar 2017, 4:54 am)citaro5284 By mind BLM, you certainly know all your options  Big Grin

Those are just all the sub 2hour ones Wink

29 Mar 2017, 3:37 pm #134
(28 Mar 2017, 6:56 pm)Ambassador Arriva are axing the 60p discount fare on the 555 Quorum shuttle.

It'll be a £1.10 single or a £1.90 return. A £5.50 Q Card Weekly Saver or £20 for a week iis being introduced (555 and 52 only between Quorum and Four Lane Ends)

Considering the roadworks coming up in July for 6 months and the traffic chaos that will follow, this can only drive numbers dow on the route.

The upcoming roadworks in July are 6 weeks not 6 months Angel
NK53 TKT
29 Mar 2017, 3:37 pm #134

(28 Mar 2017, 6:56 pm)Ambassador Arriva are axing the 60p discount fare on the 555 Quorum shuttle.

It'll be a £1.10 single or a £1.90 return. A £5.50 Q Card Weekly Saver or £20 for a week iis being introduced (555 and 52 only between Quorum and Four Lane Ends)

Considering the roadworks coming up in July for 6 months and the traffic chaos that will follow, this can only drive numbers dow on the route.

The upcoming roadworks in July are 6 weeks not 6 months Angel

29 Mar 2017, 5:05 pm #135
When did the 52 start going to Ashington I've just seen it in Killingworth Bus Station with Ashington on the front.
neilwatson
29 Mar 2017, 5:05 pm #135

When did the 52 start going to Ashington I've just seen it in Killingworth Bus Station with Ashington on the front.

Kuyoyo



6,853
29 Mar 2017, 5:21 pm #136
(20 Mar 2017, 11:59 pm)Multi21 Stocktons 1452 is away for repaint. Could this be the start of the new livery in the north east?
(21 Mar 2017, 6:19 am)RobinHood Maybe starting on Frequenta 27. Will be interesting to see which Frequenta livery is used though.

Well, having just seen a photo of 1452 from the driver who collected it earlier, it is in the proper Frequenta base livery as per all other Frequenta vehicles.
Kuyoyo
29 Mar 2017, 5:21 pm #136

(20 Mar 2017, 11:59 pm)Multi21 Stocktons 1452 is away for repaint. Could this be the start of the new livery in the north east?
(21 Mar 2017, 6:19 am)RobinHood Maybe starting on Frequenta 27. Will be interesting to see which Frequenta livery is used though.

Well, having just seen a photo of 1452 from the driver who collected it earlier, it is in the proper Frequenta base livery as per all other Frequenta vehicles.

Ambassador



1,851
29 Mar 2017, 6:24 pm #137
(29 Mar 2017, 3:37 pm)NK53 TKT The upcoming roadworks in July are 6 weeks not 6 months Angel

Killingworth Rd is going to be shut up until December/January due to the remodelling of Haddricks Mill. The decision has been made to not reopen the road after the summer roadworks.

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
29 Mar 2017, 6:24 pm #137

(29 Mar 2017, 3:37 pm)NK53 TKT The upcoming roadworks in July are 6 weeks not 6 months Angel

Killingworth Rd is going to be shut up until December/January due to the remodelling of Haddricks Mill. The decision has been made to not reopen the road after the summer roadworks.


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

29 Mar 2017, 6:52 pm #138
(29 Mar 2017, 5:05 pm)neilwatson When did the 52 start going to Ashington  I've just seen it in Killingworth Bus Station with Ashington on the front.

Twice daily since January.
omnicity4659
29 Mar 2017, 6:52 pm #138

(29 Mar 2017, 5:05 pm)neilwatson When did the 52 start going to Ashington  I've just seen it in Killingworth Bus Station with Ashington on the front.

Twice daily since January.

29 Mar 2017, 7:14 pm #139
(29 Mar 2017, 6:24 pm)Ambassador Killingworth Rd is going to be shut up until December/January due to the remodelling of Haddricks Mill. The decision has been made to not reopen the road after the summer roadworks.

Oh God, we're doomed
NK53 TKT
29 Mar 2017, 7:14 pm #139

(29 Mar 2017, 6:24 pm)Ambassador Killingworth Rd is going to be shut up until December/January due to the remodelling of Haddricks Mill. The decision has been made to not reopen the road after the summer roadworks.

Oh God, we're doomed

G-CPTN



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30 Mar 2017, 4:29 pm #140
Double Decker on 685 through Corbridge towards Newcastle @16:50 (left Carlisle @ 15:15).

This has been discussed in the Rare and Odd thread.
G-CPTN
30 Mar 2017, 4:29 pm #140

Double Decker on 685 through Corbridge towards Newcastle @16:50 (left Carlisle @ 15:15).

This has been discussed in the Rare and Odd thread.

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