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Malarkey



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08 Jul 2017, 8:11 pm #61
(08 Jul 2017, 7:25 pm)Michael Should be a spare Scania somewhere in the fleet, one of Deptford's could replace it until the X84/X85 get Citaro's (if that's still happening).

Might not bother fixing it again and send it straight for scrap, even if its an 06 reg Scania.

Could use parts from 4926/31/34 & 36 to repair it depending on how bad the damage is.
Malarkey
08 Jul 2017, 8:11 pm #61

(08 Jul 2017, 7:25 pm)Michael Should be a spare Scania somewhere in the fleet, one of Deptford's could replace it until the X84/X85 get Citaro's (if that's still happening).

Might not bother fixing it again and send it straight for scrap, even if its an 06 reg Scania.

Could use parts from 4926/31/34 & 36 to repair it depending on how bad the damage is.

Michael



19,175
08 Jul 2017, 8:12 pm #62
(08 Jul 2017, 8:09 pm)R852 PRG 55-reg.

Oops got mixed up!
Edited 09 Jul 2017, 9:21 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
08 Jul 2017, 8:12 pm #62

(08 Jul 2017, 8:09 pm)R852 PRG 55-reg.

Oops got mixed up!


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Adrian



9,589
08 Jul 2017, 8:28 pm #63
(08 Jul 2017, 7:05 pm)S813 FVK Surely on what would be a more chaotic day than usual, people would appreciate why buses were running together, even on the 15 minute frequency between Chester-le-Street and Durham?

I am not going to hold back from speculating that the Merc refurbs (which they did not need to go to the expense of doing) have something to do with the fare increases. I'm probably going to be wrong, but they will have increased the amount of money spent by sending them to Blackburn - they are going to want to get that money back so they can reinvest it in improving the service for the customers of other routes. The main way that they can do this is by raising fares.

The spares out is a daily occurrence. I was at Chester-le-Street before 7am the other morning, and there was an OmniDekka and President straight out of the depot in succession. Appreciate that spares need to be used from time to time to ensure service continuity, but it should be a last resort - not a regular resort. 

The 20s coming in were delayed slightly because of loadings. In hindsight, perhaps Deptford could have utilised some deckers? 21s going out seemed to be fine, but again, quite heavy loadings. 

I find that the delay in Durham on Gala day, isn't so much down to the road closures and increased traffic, but more so because Durham Bus Station organisation is piss poor. The two set down stands at the top are shut because of traffic running in both directions, but then you have buses being dumped on stands and causing chaos. The buses have no where to go, because there is an empty bus stood on the wrong stand. Its more of a problem to nip in the bud on one day a year, because it is let to slide on every other day of the year.

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Adrian
08 Jul 2017, 8:28 pm #63

(08 Jul 2017, 7:05 pm)S813 FVK Surely on what would be a more chaotic day than usual, people would appreciate why buses were running together, even on the 15 minute frequency between Chester-le-Street and Durham?

I am not going to hold back from speculating that the Merc refurbs (which they did not need to go to the expense of doing) have something to do with the fare increases. I'm probably going to be wrong, but they will have increased the amount of money spent by sending them to Blackburn - they are going to want to get that money back so they can reinvest it in improving the service for the customers of other routes. The main way that they can do this is by raising fares.

The spares out is a daily occurrence. I was at Chester-le-Street before 7am the other morning, and there was an OmniDekka and President straight out of the depot in succession. Appreciate that spares need to be used from time to time to ensure service continuity, but it should be a last resort - not a regular resort. 

The 20s coming in were delayed slightly because of loadings. In hindsight, perhaps Deptford could have utilised some deckers? 21s going out seemed to be fine, but again, quite heavy loadings. 

I find that the delay in Durham on Gala day, isn't so much down to the road closures and increased traffic, but more so because Durham Bus Station organisation is piss poor. The two set down stands at the top are shut because of traffic running in both directions, but then you have buses being dumped on stands and causing chaos. The buses have no where to go, because there is an empty bus stood on the wrong stand. Its more of a problem to nip in the bud on one day a year, because it is let to slide on every other day of the year.


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08 Jul 2017, 11:03 pm #64
5233 seen here when it was brand new - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...5764671156

Please feel free to visit my Flickr page - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/
Who needs heroes anyway? Villians have more fun.
Rapidsnap
08 Jul 2017, 11:03 pm #64

5233 seen here when it was brand new - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...5764671156


Please feel free to visit my Flickr page - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/
Who needs heroes anyway? Villians have more fun.

BusLoverMum



5,285
08 Jul 2017, 11:23 pm #65
(08 Jul 2017, 7:08 pm)northern156 Bear in mind the engine, and earlier mentioned internal structure/furniture, will have suffered more than cosmetic damage. Unless there's a spare Scania engine knocking around, I'm guessing it'll be a costly and time-consuming fix.

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Quite. If all that is left salvageable is the chassis, the it's going to be uneconomic to fix this 12 year old vehicle!

(08 Jul 2017, 8:28 pm)Adrian The spares out is a daily occurrence. I was at Chester-le-Street before 7am the other morning, and there was an OmniDekka and President straight out of the depot in succession. Appreciate that spares need to be used from time to time to ensure service continuity, but it should be a last resort - not a regular resort. 

The 20s coming in were delayed slightly because of loadings. In hindsight, perhaps Deptford could have utilised some deckers? 21s going out seemed to be fine, but again, quite heavy loadings. 

I find that the delay in Durham on Gala day, isn't so much down to the road closures and increased traffic, but more so because Durham Bus Station organisation is piss poor. The two set down stands at the top are shut because of traffic running in both directions, but then you have buses being dumped on stands and causing chaos. The buses have no where to go, because there is an empty bus stood on the wrong stand. Its more of a problem to nip in the bud on one day a year, because it is let to slide on every other day of the year.

Thats ot helped at all by North road being completely closed. The situation would probably be helped if services terminating t the station didn't even enter it eg som eof 6, 20, 22, 24 20- drop off at milburngate bridge, loop the roundabout then pick up at the elazes bowl stops. Some of 15, 16, 21, 50 drop off at wharton park, loop the roundabout then pick up again. That owuld free up the station for through and southbound services which use narrower streets.

That would all require communication, of course.
Edited 08 Jul 2017, 11:30 pm by BusLoverMum.
BusLoverMum
08 Jul 2017, 11:23 pm #65

(08 Jul 2017, 7:08 pm)northern156 Bear in mind the engine, and earlier mentioned internal structure/furniture, will have suffered more than cosmetic damage. Unless there's a spare Scania engine knocking around, I'm guessing it'll be a costly and time-consuming fix.

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Quite. If all that is left salvageable is the chassis, the it's going to be uneconomic to fix this 12 year old vehicle!

(08 Jul 2017, 8:28 pm)Adrian The spares out is a daily occurrence. I was at Chester-le-Street before 7am the other morning, and there was an OmniDekka and President straight out of the depot in succession. Appreciate that spares need to be used from time to time to ensure service continuity, but it should be a last resort - not a regular resort. 

The 20s coming in were delayed slightly because of loadings. In hindsight, perhaps Deptford could have utilised some deckers? 21s going out seemed to be fine, but again, quite heavy loadings. 

I find that the delay in Durham on Gala day, isn't so much down to the road closures and increased traffic, but more so because Durham Bus Station organisation is piss poor. The two set down stands at the top are shut because of traffic running in both directions, but then you have buses being dumped on stands and causing chaos. The buses have no where to go, because there is an empty bus stood on the wrong stand. Its more of a problem to nip in the bud on one day a year, because it is let to slide on every other day of the year.

Thats ot helped at all by North road being completely closed. The situation would probably be helped if services terminating t the station didn't even enter it eg som eof 6, 20, 22, 24 20- drop off at milburngate bridge, loop the roundabout then pick up at the elazes bowl stops. Some of 15, 16, 21, 50 drop off at wharton park, loop the roundabout then pick up again. That owuld free up the station for through and southbound services which use narrower streets.

That would all require communication, of course.

Adrian



9,589
08 Jul 2017, 11:40 pm #66
(08 Jul 2017, 11:23 pm)BusLoverMum Quite. If all that is left salvageable is the chassis, the it's going to be uneconomic to fix this 12 year old vehicle!


Thats ot helped at all by North road being completely closed. The situation would probably be helped if services terminating t the station didn't even enter it eg som eof 6, 20, 22, 24 20- drop off at milburngate bridge, loop the roundabout then pick up at the elazes bowl stops. Some of 15, 16, 21, 50 drop off at wharton park, loop the roundabout then pick up again. That owuld free up the station for through and southbound services which use narrower streets.

That would all require communication, of course.

The ideal would be to work with the DMA, and ensure any marches starting at Redhills or Sutton Street, are out of the way before 8am. Then anything North of Durham could arrive and depart on Sutton Street instead. 

That small section of could massively help to keep things moving.

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Adrian
08 Jul 2017, 11:40 pm #66

(08 Jul 2017, 11:23 pm)BusLoverMum Quite. If all that is left salvageable is the chassis, the it's going to be uneconomic to fix this 12 year old vehicle!


Thats ot helped at all by North road being completely closed. The situation would probably be helped if services terminating t the station didn't even enter it eg som eof 6, 20, 22, 24 20- drop off at milburngate bridge, loop the roundabout then pick up at the elazes bowl stops. Some of 15, 16, 21, 50 drop off at wharton park, loop the roundabout then pick up again. That owuld free up the station for through and southbound services which use narrower streets.

That would all require communication, of course.

The ideal would be to work with the DMA, and ensure any marches starting at Redhills or Sutton Street, are out of the way before 8am. Then anything North of Durham could arrive and depart on Sutton Street instead. 

That small section of could massively help to keep things moving.


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Michael



19,175
09 Jul 2017, 9:04 am #67
Heard from a friend that 5229-5233 are off to Chester for the 28/28A.... of course now 1 down due to 5233 going up in flames.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
09 Jul 2017, 9:04 am #67

Heard from a friend that 5229-5233 are off to Chester for the 28/28A.... of course now 1 down due to 5233 going up in flames.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

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18,126
09 Jul 2017, 1:56 pm #68
(08 Jul 2017, 5:08 pm)Michael Thanks, I've been away so haven't noticed anything myself, the fleet list hasn't been updated too but of course Dan will be busy.

5476 has been delivered - will be branded on Monday, and likely to be out in service on Tuesday. The final Streetlite for Deptford, 5477, should be delivered next week. It is currently undergoing PDI, prior to shipping.

With 16 of 18 Streetlites now having entered service, the operation of service 61 is starting to be allocated the Black Cats branded Scania L94s. This has enabled the temporary withdrawal of 5298 and 5304, so far.
Dan
09 Jul 2017, 1:56 pm #68

(08 Jul 2017, 5:08 pm)Michael Thanks, I've been away so haven't noticed anything myself, the fleet list hasn't been updated too but of course Dan will be busy.

5476 has been delivered - will be branded on Monday, and likely to be out in service on Tuesday. The final Streetlite for Deptford, 5477, should be delivered next week. It is currently undergoing PDI, prior to shipping.

With 16 of 18 Streetlites now having entered service, the operation of service 61 is starting to be allocated the Black Cats branded Scania L94s. This has enabled the temporary withdrawal of 5298 and 5304, so far.

Michael



19,175
09 Jul 2017, 2:01 pm #69
(09 Jul 2017, 1:56 pm)Dan 5476 has been delivered - will be branded on Monday, and likely to be out in service on Tuesday. The final Streetlite for Deptford, 5477, should be delivered next week. It is currently undergoing PDI, prior to shipping.

With 16 of 18 Streetlites now having entered service, the operation of service 61 is starting to be allocated the Black Cats branded Scania L94s. This has enabled the temporary withdrawal of 5298 and 5304, so far.

Will those Citaro's be refurbished like the ones on the X5, 27 etc?, just its got "internal refurbishment and repaint" on the news and doesn't include, USB ports etc, i take it that, 5299-5303 will follow later on?


Was hoping the 9 would finally have a full allocation of Citaro's.........


6071 will be the first of the TEN B9's to be repainted Green next week ahead of re branding it to "Tyne Valley Ten".
Edited 09 Jul 2017, 2:27 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
09 Jul 2017, 2:01 pm #69

(09 Jul 2017, 1:56 pm)Dan 5476 has been delivered - will be branded on Monday, and likely to be out in service on Tuesday. The final Streetlite for Deptford, 5477, should be delivered next week. It is currently undergoing PDI, prior to shipping.

With 16 of 18 Streetlites now having entered service, the operation of service 61 is starting to be allocated the Black Cats branded Scania L94s. This has enabled the temporary withdrawal of 5298 and 5304, so far.

Will those Citaro's be refurbished like the ones on the X5, 27 etc?, just its got "internal refurbishment and repaint" on the news and doesn't include, USB ports etc, i take it that, 5299-5303 will follow later on?


Was hoping the 9 would finally have a full allocation of Citaro's.........


6071 will be the first of the TEN B9's to be repainted Green next week ahead of re branding it to "Tyne Valley Ten".


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

G-CPTN



961
09 Jul 2017, 4:49 pm #70
(09 Jul 2017, 2:01 pm)Michael 6071 will be the first of the TEN B9's to be repainted Green next week ahead of re branding it to "Tyne Valley Ten".

Shame - I think the current TEN livery is well-suited for a respected service.
G-CPTN
09 Jul 2017, 4:49 pm #70

(09 Jul 2017, 2:01 pm)Michael 6071 will be the first of the TEN B9's to be repainted Green next week ahead of re branding it to "Tyne Valley Ten".

Shame - I think the current TEN livery is well-suited for a respected service.

09 Jul 2017, 5:12 pm #71
(08 Jul 2017, 8:12 pm)Michael Oops got mixed up!





Edit:


Who included the video on my post?, as i didn't post it! haha

Dear me! Yet another bus fire! I hope the driver and the passengers are ok and that no one was hurt. Just wondering is that the engine I can hear running in the video or is it the flames?
Washingtonian
09 Jul 2017, 5:12 pm #71

(08 Jul 2017, 8:12 pm)Michael Oops got mixed up!





Edit:


Who included the video on my post?, as i didn't post it! haha

Dear me! Yet another bus fire! I hope the driver and the passengers are ok and that no one was hurt. Just wondering is that the engine I can hear running in the video or is it the flames?

10 Jul 2017, 1:48 pm #72
Just seen 672 getting a tow
heading west along the coast road presumably heading for salt meadows
Coppercap40
10 Jul 2017, 1:48 pm #72

Just seen 672 getting a tow
heading west along the coast road presumably heading for salt meadows

Ambassador



1,862
11 Jul 2017, 10:16 am #73
Has 3965 had an internal deep clean?

Smells and looks fresh. That long since I've been on a green angel it's hard to tell!

Tho the bell doesn't work and it's leaking like a sieve inside
Edited 11 Jul 2017, 10:26 am by Ambassador.

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
11 Jul 2017, 10:16 am #73

Has 3965 had an internal deep clean?

Smells and looks fresh. That long since I've been on a green angel it's hard to tell!

Tho the bell doesn't work and it's leaking like a sieve inside


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

11 Jul 2017, 2:09 pm #74
4900 towed away from Riverside today by Trevor Wigley around 10am.
R852 PRG
11 Jul 2017, 2:09 pm #74

4900 towed away from Riverside today by Trevor Wigley around 10am.

11 Jul 2017, 4:09 pm #75
6071 has the same shade of green as the green arrow Solars....

Also there's an angel gemini 1 along with a cobalt clipper in the pits. I think the angel was 3962.
EL1TE
11 Jul 2017, 4:09 pm #75

6071 has the same shade of green as the green arrow Solars....

Also there's an angel gemini 1 along with a cobalt clipper in the pits. I think the angel was 3962.

S813 FVK



6,030
11 Jul 2017, 4:29 pm #76
(09 Jul 2017, 2:01 pm)Michael 6071 will be the first of the TEN B9's to be repainted Green next week ahead of re branding it to "Tyne Valley Ten".

Could this brand refresh also allow the Cobalt Clipper to gain a full branded allocation?

With only 3 of the TTX B9s required to make up the PVR, 1 of the spares could release 6084 (due to having USB Sockets) to Percy Main allowing 6116 (to keep the fleet numbers consecutive) to be repainted and branded for the Cobalt Clipper.
S813 FVK
11 Jul 2017, 4:29 pm #76

(09 Jul 2017, 2:01 pm)Michael 6071 will be the first of the TEN B9's to be repainted Green next week ahead of re branding it to "Tyne Valley Ten".

Could this brand refresh also allow the Cobalt Clipper to gain a full branded allocation?

With only 3 of the TTX B9s required to make up the PVR, 1 of the spares could release 6084 (due to having USB Sockets) to Percy Main allowing 6116 (to keep the fleet numbers consecutive) to be repainted and branded for the Cobalt Clipper.

park5354



406
11 Jul 2017, 5:36 pm #77
(11 Jul 2017, 4:29 pm)S813 FVK Could this brand refresh also allow the Cobalt Clipper to gain a full branded allocation?

With only 3 of the TTX B9s required to make up the PVR, 1 of the spares could release 6084 (due to having USB Sockets) to Percy Main allowing 6116 (to keep the fleet numbers consecutive) to be repainted and branded for the Cobalt Clipper.

probably be better to send 6084 back to Deptford, and give Percy Main 6100, from Deptford.
Edited 11 Jul 2017, 5:38 pm by park5354.
park5354
11 Jul 2017, 5:36 pm #77

(11 Jul 2017, 4:29 pm)S813 FVK Could this brand refresh also allow the Cobalt Clipper to gain a full branded allocation?

With only 3 of the TTX B9s required to make up the PVR, 1 of the spares could release 6084 (due to having USB Sockets) to Percy Main allowing 6116 (to keep the fleet numbers consecutive) to be repainted and branded for the Cobalt Clipper.

probably be better to send 6084 back to Deptford, and give Percy Main 6100, from Deptford.

jack



21
11 Jul 2017, 5:42 pm #78
heres a picture of 6071 in green 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/133942712@...ed-public/
jack
11 Jul 2017, 5:42 pm #78

heres a picture of 6071 in green 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/133942712@...ed-public/

S813 FVK



6,030
11 Jul 2017, 5:56 pm #79
(11 Jul 2017, 5:36 pm)park5354 probably be better to send 6084 back to Deptford, and give Percy Main 6100, from Deptford.

Yes, that would be even better. It isn't as if 6084's tachograph is going to provide any benefit to Percy Main.

Also, the Venture PVR will drop by 1 when the 689 transfers to Hexham/Riverside, would it perhaps be a good idea to repaint 647 into the corporate livery displacing 649 to Percy Main to allow 639 to return to Riverside to replace 559? That is just in the event of wishing to keep consecutive fleet numbers though, shortcuts could be taken.
Edited 11 Jul 2017, 6:04 pm by S813 FVK.
S813 FVK
11 Jul 2017, 5:56 pm #79

(11 Jul 2017, 5:36 pm)park5354 probably be better to send 6084 back to Deptford, and give Percy Main 6100, from Deptford.

Yes, that would be even better. It isn't as if 6084's tachograph is going to provide any benefit to Percy Main.

Also, the Venture PVR will drop by 1 when the 689 transfers to Hexham/Riverside, would it perhaps be a good idea to repaint 647 into the corporate livery displacing 649 to Percy Main to allow 639 to return to Riverside to replace 559? That is just in the event of wishing to keep consecutive fleet numbers though, shortcuts could be taken.

Tom



6,138
11 Jul 2017, 5:58 pm #80
(11 Jul 2017, 4:29 pm)S813 FVK Could this brand refresh also allow the Cobalt Clipper to gain a full branded allocation?

With only 3 of the TTX B9s required to make up the PVR, 1 of the spares could release 6084 (due to having USB Sockets) to Percy Main allowing 6116 (to keep the fleet numbers consecutive) to be repainted and branded for the Cobalt Clipper.

Even more likely considering the long term roadworks that are happening increasing the PVR - have seen a lot of Presidents on there recently
Edited 11 Jul 2017, 5:58 pm by Tom.
Tom
11 Jul 2017, 5:58 pm #80

(11 Jul 2017, 4:29 pm)S813 FVK Could this brand refresh also allow the Cobalt Clipper to gain a full branded allocation?

With only 3 of the TTX B9s required to make up the PVR, 1 of the spares could release 6084 (due to having USB Sockets) to Percy Main allowing 6116 (to keep the fleet numbers consecutive) to be repainted and branded for the Cobalt Clipper.

Even more likely considering the long term roadworks that are happening increasing the PVR - have seen a lot of Presidents on there recently

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