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Cock Robin



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21 Oct 2017, 1:14 pm #61
(20 Oct 2017, 4:01 pm)2bagstew Arriva are short of Drivers at Both Durham & Darlington. They a doing a recruiting drive.
But it takes a while to do the driver training.



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Especially when they 'lose' applications.
Cock Robin
21 Oct 2017, 1:14 pm #61

(20 Oct 2017, 4:01 pm)2bagstew Arriva are short of Drivers at Both Durham & Darlington. They a doing a recruiting drive.
But it takes a while to do the driver training.



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Especially when they 'lose' applications.

2bagstew



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21 Oct 2017, 4:05 pm #62
(21 Oct 2017, 1:14 pm)Cock Robin Especially when they 'lose' applications.

I heard that too. Not good


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21 Oct 2017, 4:05 pm #62

(21 Oct 2017, 1:14 pm)Cock Robin Especially when they 'lose' applications.

I heard that too. Not good


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RM2186



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22 Oct 2017, 5:24 pm #63
(20 Oct 2017, 4:01 pm)2bagstew Arriva are short of Drivers at Both Durham & Darlington. They a doing a recruiting drive.
But it takes a while to do the driver training.



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Hmmmm......... wonder what the rate of pay is for experienced PCV Drivers?
Edited 22 Oct 2017, 5:24 pm by RM2186.
RM2186
22 Oct 2017, 5:24 pm #63

(20 Oct 2017, 4:01 pm)2bagstew Arriva are short of Drivers at Both Durham & Darlington. They a doing a recruiting drive.
But it takes a while to do the driver training.



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Hmmmm......... wonder what the rate of pay is for experienced PCV Drivers?

Driver9***



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23 Oct 2017, 12:01 pm #64
(22 Oct 2017, 5:24 pm)RM2186 Hmmmm......... wonder what the rate of pay is for experienced PCV Drivers?

The starting rate is £8.25/hr. No wonder they struggle to recruit and keep drivers.
Driver9***
23 Oct 2017, 12:01 pm #64

(22 Oct 2017, 5:24 pm)RM2186 Hmmmm......... wonder what the rate of pay is for experienced PCV Drivers?

The starting rate is £8.25/hr. No wonder they struggle to recruit and keep drivers.

2bagstew



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23 Oct 2017, 3:07 pm #65
(23 Oct 2017, 12:01 pm)Driver9*** The starting rate is £8.25/hr. No wonder they struggle to recruit and keep drivers.


In reality it’s seems like a pay cut.


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2bagstew
23 Oct 2017, 3:07 pm #65

(23 Oct 2017, 12:01 pm)Driver9*** The starting rate is £8.25/hr. No wonder they struggle to recruit and keep drivers.


In reality it’s seems like a pay cut.


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Cock Robin



2,778
23 Oct 2017, 4:22 pm #66
Compare to train drivers, who don't have to steer or take fares! Madness!
Cock Robin
23 Oct 2017, 4:22 pm #66

Compare to train drivers, who don't have to steer or take fares! Madness!

mb134



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23 Oct 2017, 4:26 pm #67
(23 Oct 2017, 12:01 pm)Driver9*** The starting rate is £8.25/hr. No wonder they struggle to recruit and keep drivers.

That's ridiculously low. My wage as a 19 year old in a fast food restaurant, between midnight and 6:00, is £7.50. Even during "regular hours" its £6.50. As soon as I turn 21, I believe my premium hour pay will be more than £8.25.
mb134
23 Oct 2017, 4:26 pm #67

(23 Oct 2017, 12:01 pm)Driver9*** The starting rate is £8.25/hr. No wonder they struggle to recruit and keep drivers.

That's ridiculously low. My wage as a 19 year old in a fast food restaurant, between midnight and 6:00, is £7.50. Even during "regular hours" its £6.50. As soon as I turn 21, I believe my premium hour pay will be more than £8.25.

cbma06



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23 Oct 2017, 4:50 pm #68
(23 Oct 2017, 12:01 pm)Driver9*** The starting rate is £8.25/hr. No wonder they struggle to recruit and keep drivers.


Is that the NMW?


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cbma06
23 Oct 2017, 4:50 pm #68

(23 Oct 2017, 12:01 pm)Driver9*** The starting rate is £8.25/hr. No wonder they struggle to recruit and keep drivers.


Is that the NMW?


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Andreos1



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23 Oct 2017, 4:58 pm #69
(23 Oct 2017, 4:50 pm)cbma06 Is that the NMW?


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Not far off
https://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
23 Oct 2017, 4:58 pm #69

(23 Oct 2017, 4:50 pm)cbma06 Is that the NMW?


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Not far off
https://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

BusLoverMum



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23 Oct 2017, 9:16 pm #70
(23 Oct 2017, 12:01 pm)Driver9*** The starting rate is £8.25/hr. No wonder they struggle to recruit and keep drivers.

That's pretty poor. How long to get off that baseline, I wonder?
BusLoverMum
23 Oct 2017, 9:16 pm #70

(23 Oct 2017, 12:01 pm)Driver9*** The starting rate is £8.25/hr. No wonder they struggle to recruit and keep drivers.

That's pretty poor. How long to get off that baseline, I wonder?

tyresmoke



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23 Oct 2017, 9:21 pm #71
(23 Oct 2017, 12:01 pm)Driver9*** The starting rate is £8.25/hr. No wonder they struggle to recruit and keep drivers.

Blimey, there are independents that pay more in the same area!  Wink

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tyresmoke
23 Oct 2017, 9:21 pm #71

(23 Oct 2017, 12:01 pm)Driver9*** The starting rate is £8.25/hr. No wonder they struggle to recruit and keep drivers.

Blimey, there are independents that pay more in the same area!  Wink

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23 Oct 2017, 10:46 pm #72
(23 Oct 2017, 9:16 pm)BusLoverMum That's pretty poor. How long to get off that baseline, I wonder?

I won't go into details but will say that thanks to the corrupt Unite union officials, Arriva were able to bring in a revised pay structure for all new starters from June 1st that totally shafted them if they drive a big bus, basically a 20% pay cut.
Driver9***
23 Oct 2017, 10:46 pm #72

(23 Oct 2017, 9:16 pm)BusLoverMum That's pretty poor. How long to get off that baseline, I wonder?

I won't go into details but will say that thanks to the corrupt Unite union officials, Arriva were able to bring in a revised pay structure for all new starters from June 1st that totally shafted them if they drive a big bus, basically a 20% pay cut.

Ambassador



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23 Oct 2017, 10:53 pm #73
And we wonder why sometimes the customer service is so bad from drivers...they’d be paid more behind a counter in Greggs
Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
23 Oct 2017, 10:53 pm #73

And we wonder why sometimes the customer service is so bad from drivers...they’d be paid more behind a counter in Greggs

Wistfully stuck in the 90s

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24 Oct 2017, 3:31 pm #74
(24 Oct 2017, 3:21 pm)Cock Robin 1573 is now officially 'Under Repair'. 1570 was also in bits at the start of the month.

30th October Allocation Amendments

Blyth
In - 2810 (swap for 1791)
Out - 1791 to Durham (Durham County Council contracts)

Durham
In - 1791 (swap for 2810), 7425 and 7426
Out - 2810 to Blyth (swap for 1791), 1476 and 1477 (to Stockton)

Stockton
In - 1476 and 1477 (ex-Durham, ops spare for Christmas punctuality)

Redcar
Out - 7425 and 7426 to Durham (PVR reduction), 7489 to Reserve Fleet (to be converted to Driver Trainer, following PVR reduction), 2828 to Reserve Fleet (following PVR reduction, vinyls to be removed) and 1573 for repair (long term VOR).

Vehicles Sold
7440 and 7442 - to Alpha Recovery.
Dan
24 Oct 2017, 3:31 pm #74

(24 Oct 2017, 3:21 pm)Cock Robin 1573 is now officially 'Under Repair'. 1570 was also in bits at the start of the month.

30th October Allocation Amendments

Blyth
In - 2810 (swap for 1791)
Out - 1791 to Durham (Durham County Council contracts)

Durham
In - 1791 (swap for 2810), 7425 and 7426
Out - 2810 to Blyth (swap for 1791), 1476 and 1477 (to Stockton)

Stockton
In - 1476 and 1477 (ex-Durham, ops spare for Christmas punctuality)

Redcar
Out - 7425 and 7426 to Durham (PVR reduction), 7489 to Reserve Fleet (to be converted to Driver Trainer, following PVR reduction), 2828 to Reserve Fleet (following PVR reduction, vinyls to be removed) and 1573 for repair (long term VOR).

Vehicles Sold
7440 and 7442 - to Alpha Recovery.

Rockstar666



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24 Oct 2017, 9:31 pm #75
(24 Oct 2017, 3:31 pm)Dan 30th October Allocation Amendments

Blyth
In - 2810 (swap for 1791)
Out - 1791 to Durham (Durham County Council contracts)

Durham
In - 1791 (swap for 2810), 7425 and 7426
Out - 2810 to Blyth (swap for 1791), 1476 and 1477 (to Stockton)

Stockton
In - 1476 and 1477 (ex-Durham, ops spare for Christmas punctuality)

Redcar
Out - 7425 and 7426 to Durham (PVR reduction), 7489 to Reserve Fleet (to be converted to Driver Trainer, following PVR reduction), 2828 to Reserve Fleet (following PVR reduction, vinyls to be removed) and 1573 for repair (long term VOR).

Vehicles Sold
7440 and 7442 - to Alpha Recovery.



Nothing mentioned about 1759 and 1766?
Rockstar666
24 Oct 2017, 9:31 pm #75

(24 Oct 2017, 3:31 pm)Dan 30th October Allocation Amendments

Blyth
In - 2810 (swap for 1791)
Out - 1791 to Durham (Durham County Council contracts)

Durham
In - 1791 (swap for 2810), 7425 and 7426
Out - 2810 to Blyth (swap for 1791), 1476 and 1477 (to Stockton)

Stockton
In - 1476 and 1477 (ex-Durham, ops spare for Christmas punctuality)

Redcar
Out - 7425 and 7426 to Durham (PVR reduction), 7489 to Reserve Fleet (to be converted to Driver Trainer, following PVR reduction), 2828 to Reserve Fleet (following PVR reduction, vinyls to be removed) and 1573 for repair (long term VOR).

Vehicles Sold
7440 and 7442 - to Alpha Recovery.



Nothing mentioned about 1759 and 1766?

Cock Robin



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25 Oct 2017, 9:08 am #76
Redcar/Whitby have lost 5 workings and 5 buses so presumably 1759/66 will come off when 1573 and 2828 are back on the road, although something else will probably be off the road by then!

Wonder if 'vinyls to be removed' rather than 'repaint' suggests its going to be running round in plain silver?!
Edited 25 Oct 2017, 9:10 am by Cock Robin.
Cock Robin
25 Oct 2017, 9:08 am #76

Redcar/Whitby have lost 5 workings and 5 buses so presumably 1759/66 will come off when 1573 and 2828 are back on the road, although something else will probably be off the road by then!

Wonder if 'vinyls to be removed' rather than 'repaint' suggests its going to be running round in plain silver?!

cbma06



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26 Oct 2017, 1:17 pm #77
There's 2 24's in peterlee to Hartlepool , pulsar ahead of the E400.


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cbma06
26 Oct 2017, 1:17 pm #77

There's 2 24's in peterlee to Hartlepool , pulsar ahead of the E400.


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BusLoverMum



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26 Oct 2017, 2:58 pm #78
(26 Oct 2017, 1:17 pm)cbma06 There's 2 24's in peterlee to Hartlepool , pulsar ahead of the E400.


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Just left Peterlee on the 22 after the one we expected. That ran half an hour late Sunderland bound and must have been taken off. We knew not to expect it at 3:15, but some people had already been waiting half an hour when we arrived.
So we're on a full 1595 and my eyes are watering because someone is wearing overpowering perfume.

Noticed a 24 coming from Durham 41 minutes late when I checked the app.
BusLoverMum
26 Oct 2017, 2:58 pm #78

(26 Oct 2017, 1:17 pm)cbma06 There's 2 24's in peterlee to Hartlepool , pulsar ahead of the E400.


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Just left Peterlee on the 22 after the one we expected. That ran half an hour late Sunderland bound and must have been taken off. We knew not to expect it at 3:15, but some people had already been waiting half an hour when we arrived.
So we're on a full 1595 and my eyes are watering because someone is wearing overpowering perfume.

Noticed a 24 coming from Durham 41 minutes late when I checked the app.

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28 Oct 2017, 10:25 am #79
1515 has had its 3-pin power sockets removed, and USB charging points installed in their place.
omnicity4659
28 Oct 2017, 10:25 am #79

1515 has had its 3-pin power sockets removed, and USB charging points installed in their place.

tyresmoke



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28 Oct 2017, 10:25 am #80
The first bus in the plain new livery 2834 is out on the 55 today I believe.
1923 has been painted at Thorntons and should return to Stockton soon

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tyresmoke
28 Oct 2017, 10:25 am #80

The first bus in the plain new livery 2834 is out on the 55 today I believe.
1923 has been painted at Thorntons and should return to Stockton soon

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