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Tom



6,138
16 Dec 2017, 10:24 am #281
(16 Dec 2017, 10:21 am)Michael Probables will be, we could see a lot of Scania's withdrawn if its true that some of the Toonlink Omnicities will be replaced by Gemini's. 


Whats the PVR of the 19?

4 for the 19, 8 for the 11, then 2 to Washington. That makes perfect sense to me!
Tom
16 Dec 2017, 10:24 am #281

(16 Dec 2017, 10:21 am)Michael Probables will be, we could see a lot of Scania's withdrawn if its true that some of the Toonlink Omnicities will be replaced by Gemini's. 


Whats the PVR of the 19?

4 for the 19, 8 for the 11, then 2 to Washington. That makes perfect sense to me!

Michael



19,177
16 Dec 2017, 10:32 am #282
(16 Dec 2017, 10:24 am)Tom 4 for the 19, 8 for the 11, then 2 to Washington. That makes perfect sense to me!

It does, and with the Toonlink supposedly dropping some of the Omnicities for the Gemini's meaning 1 of the Omnicities can replace 5248 at Stanley.

Edit:

Although i think the odd balls at Percy Main will be removed from the Depot, so they can keep 5261-74:


Percy Main:
 
5251 – Whey Aye Five-0
5252 – Whey Aye Five-0
5254 – Go North East - Washington
 
5261 – 5268 - Blue Arrow (8)
5269 - 5272 – 19 (4)
5273, 5274 – Spares at Percy Main (2)
Edited 16 Dec 2017, 10:41 am by Michael.

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Michael
16 Dec 2017, 10:32 am #282

(16 Dec 2017, 10:24 am)Tom 4 for the 19, 8 for the 11, then 2 to Washington. That makes perfect sense to me!

It does, and with the Toonlink supposedly dropping some of the Omnicities for the Gemini's meaning 1 of the Omnicities can replace 5248 at Stanley.

Edit:

Although i think the odd balls at Percy Main will be removed from the Depot, so they can keep 5261-74:


Percy Main:
 
5251 – Whey Aye Five-0
5252 – Whey Aye Five-0
5254 – Go North East - Washington
 
5261 – 5268 - Blue Arrow (8)
5269 - 5272 – 19 (4)
5273, 5274 – Spares at Percy Main (2)


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Tom



6,138
16 Dec 2017, 10:39 am #283
(16 Dec 2017, 10:32 am)Michael It does, and with the Toonlink supposedly dropping some of the Omnicities for the Gemini's meaning 1 of the Omnicities can replace 5248 at Stanley.

Yeah - will be a big upgrade for the 11 and 19 if it happens, the Solars are ok but are freezing cold most of the time. Passengers don't seem to like them.

My thoughts would be the 19 staying in corporate livery but you never know.
Tom
16 Dec 2017, 10:39 am #283

(16 Dec 2017, 10:32 am)Michael It does, and with the Toonlink supposedly dropping some of the Omnicities for the Gemini's meaning 1 of the Omnicities can replace 5248 at Stanley.

Yeah - will be a big upgrade for the 11 and 19 if it happens, the Solars are ok but are freezing cold most of the time. Passengers don't seem to like them.

My thoughts would be the 19 staying in corporate livery but you never know.

Michael



19,177
16 Dec 2017, 10:46 am #284
(16 Dec 2017, 10:43 am)S813 FVK I, personally, am still a bit sceptical on whether the B9TLs are for the Toon Link, purely because I can think of plenty of evidence to support the 'yes' and 'no' camps and can't quite decide which one is the more credible option.

Ye, defiantly, i don't think we'll see the Gemini's enter service from Blackburn until at least the start of February, due to checks and so on. 

Loads of speculation till then Tongue

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Michael
16 Dec 2017, 10:46 am #284

(16 Dec 2017, 10:43 am)S813 FVK I, personally, am still a bit sceptical on whether the B9TLs are for the Toon Link, purely because I can think of plenty of evidence to support the 'yes' and 'no' camps and can't quite decide which one is the more credible option.

Ye, defiantly, i don't think we'll see the Gemini's enter service from Blackburn until at least the start of February, due to checks and so on. 

Loads of speculation till then Tongue


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael



19,177
16 Dec 2017, 11:21 am #285
Wonder when the last 3 MPD's will get withdrawn?

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Michael
16 Dec 2017, 11:21 am #285

Wonder when the last 3 MPD's will get withdrawn?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Andreos1



14,257
16 Dec 2017, 11:43 am #286
(16 Dec 2017, 8:21 am)Dan Few photos below.

Aside from the obvious cost impact it would have had to renew all of the seats and change the seating layout, I don't think it was needed? I personally think that the seats in 5337 and 5338 are more comfortable than Go North East's standard seating in Mercedes Citaros. They're a bit wider.

Cosmetically they look a little strange with the new leather - the shape of the seats means that the fabric has to stretch over - but I don't think many passengers would notice that.

[Image: 25217919578_07409a2130.jpg]Go North East: 5338 / HF06FUB by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

[Image: 38202900195_47e6f3b4a0.jpg]Go North East: 5338 / HF06FUB by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

Granted the refurbs on the acquired Solars happened a lot sooner in to their working life; but they have the same standard seating.
Even if the costs in installing all brand new seats was prohibitive, I would have thought some sort of compromise or work-around would have been possible.

In some aspects the seats in 5338 are comfier than those in the native examples. However, I feel lack of a headrest, takes some of the positives away.

(16 Dec 2017, 11:08 am)S813 FVK It's the scholars bit that gets me. I see no reason why it can't work given that they manage fine now. Perhaps it is be down to jealousy with them having a bus with WiFi and I don't (I certainly made use of 6141's WiFi yesterday, although I was surprised that nobody else seemed to make a big thing of it).

On the topic of scholars services, complaints have apparently being coming in from passengers regarding the state of the bus that does the 16:52 10X - I can only apologise on the behalf of those cretins who can't find anything else to entertain themselves other than throwing bottles, cans and whatever else at people and don't bother clearing their mess up.

Scholars services and the cleanliness of them has alway been an issue and I think the introduction of the 'school bus' Metrobuses 17/18 years ago was partly down the issue of keeping the main fleet away from scholars work.
Obviously this continued with the Olympians, but the policy seems to have stopped.

Way back when - my school regularly had contact from local depots, with threats made about removing the scholars services completely.
They never did during the years I was there.
Maybe the money they made, compensated for any rubbish, graffiti and bus seat fires!

I think I have mentioned in the past about the numbers which squeezed on.
Having my face pushed and squashed to the front of a Mk1 National windscreen isn't up there with my favourite school memories.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
16 Dec 2017, 11:43 am #286

(16 Dec 2017, 8:21 am)Dan Few photos below.

Aside from the obvious cost impact it would have had to renew all of the seats and change the seating layout, I don't think it was needed? I personally think that the seats in 5337 and 5338 are more comfortable than Go North East's standard seating in Mercedes Citaros. They're a bit wider.

Cosmetically they look a little strange with the new leather - the shape of the seats means that the fabric has to stretch over - but I don't think many passengers would notice that.

[Image: 25217919578_07409a2130.jpg]Go North East: 5338 / HF06FUB by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

[Image: 38202900195_47e6f3b4a0.jpg]Go North East: 5338 / HF06FUB by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

Granted the refurbs on the acquired Solars happened a lot sooner in to their working life; but they have the same standard seating.
Even if the costs in installing all brand new seats was prohibitive, I would have thought some sort of compromise or work-around would have been possible.

In some aspects the seats in 5338 are comfier than those in the native examples. However, I feel lack of a headrest, takes some of the positives away.

(16 Dec 2017, 11:08 am)S813 FVK It's the scholars bit that gets me. I see no reason why it can't work given that they manage fine now. Perhaps it is be down to jealousy with them having a bus with WiFi and I don't (I certainly made use of 6141's WiFi yesterday, although I was surprised that nobody else seemed to make a big thing of it).

On the topic of scholars services, complaints have apparently being coming in from passengers regarding the state of the bus that does the 16:52 10X - I can only apologise on the behalf of those cretins who can't find anything else to entertain themselves other than throwing bottles, cans and whatever else at people and don't bother clearing their mess up.

Scholars services and the cleanliness of them has alway been an issue and I think the introduction of the 'school bus' Metrobuses 17/18 years ago was partly down the issue of keeping the main fleet away from scholars work.
Obviously this continued with the Olympians, but the policy seems to have stopped.

Way back when - my school regularly had contact from local depots, with threats made about removing the scholars services completely.
They never did during the years I was there.
Maybe the money they made, compensated for any rubbish, graffiti and bus seat fires!

I think I have mentioned in the past about the numbers which squeezed on.
Having my face pushed and squashed to the front of a Mk1 National windscreen isn't up there with my favourite school memories.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

16 Dec 2017, 2:23 pm #287
6320 on 1425 ex eldon to chester le street
Coppercap40
16 Dec 2017, 2:23 pm #287

6320 on 1425 ex eldon to chester le street

16 Dec 2017, 3:26 pm #288
(16 Dec 2017, 11:08 am)S813 FVK It's the scholars bit that gets me. I see no reason why it can't work given that they manage fine now. Perhaps it is be down to jealousy with them having a bus with WiFi and I don't (I certainly made use of 6141's WiFi yesterday, although I was surprised that nobody else seemed to make a big thing of it).

On the topic of scholars services, complaints have apparently being coming in from passengers regarding the state of the bus that does the 16:52 10X - I can only apologise on the behalf of those cretins who can't find anything else to entertain themselves other than throwing bottles, cans and whatever else at people and don't bother clearing their mess up.

This works off 825 St Bedes to Lanchester
westy3738
16 Dec 2017, 3:26 pm #288

(16 Dec 2017, 11:08 am)S813 FVK It's the scholars bit that gets me. I see no reason why it can't work given that they manage fine now. Perhaps it is be down to jealousy with them having a bus with WiFi and I don't (I certainly made use of 6141's WiFi yesterday, although I was surprised that nobody else seemed to make a big thing of it).

On the topic of scholars services, complaints have apparently being coming in from passengers regarding the state of the bus that does the 16:52 10X - I can only apologise on the behalf of those cretins who can't find anything else to entertain themselves other than throwing bottles, cans and whatever else at people and don't bother clearing their mess up.

This works off 825 St Bedes to Lanchester

Michael



19,177
16 Dec 2017, 3:28 pm #289
From a friend.... more Angel buses at Heysham today:


NK67GMG (6315)
NK67GMZ (6321)
NK67GNN (6324)

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Michael
16 Dec 2017, 3:28 pm #289

From a friend.... more Angel buses at Heysham today:


NK67GMG (6315)
NK67GMZ (6321)
NK67GNN (6324)


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,128
16 Dec 2017, 3:30 pm #290
(16 Dec 2017, 3:28 pm)Michael From a friend.... more Angel buses at Heysham today:


NK67GMG (6315)
NK67GMZ (6321)
NK67GNN (6324)

[Image: 39057637332_ff02babacd.jpg]Go North East 'Angel' Left : NK67GNN (6324) Middle: NK67GMG (6315) Right: NK67GMZ (6321) by BG Transport Pictures, on Flickr
Dan
16 Dec 2017, 3:30 pm #290

(16 Dec 2017, 3:28 pm)Michael From a friend.... more Angel buses at Heysham today:


NK67GMG (6315)
NK67GMZ (6321)
NK67GNN (6324)

[Image: 39057637332_ff02babacd.jpg]Go North East 'Angel' Left : NK67GNN (6324) Middle: NK67GMG (6315) Right: NK67GMZ (6321) by BG Transport Pictures, on Flickr

Michael



19,177
16 Dec 2017, 3:31 pm #291
(16 Dec 2017, 3:30 pm)Dan [Image: 39057637332_ff02babacd.jpg]Go North East 'Angel'  Left : NK67GNN (6324)  Middle: NK67GMG (6315)  Right: NK67GMZ (6321) by BG Transport Pictures, on Flickr

Thanks Dan, i don't follow him on Flickr, so didn't know there was a pic, must of where he got his information from!

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
16 Dec 2017, 3:31 pm #291

(16 Dec 2017, 3:30 pm)Dan [Image: 39057637332_ff02babacd.jpg]Go North East 'Angel'  Left : NK67GNN (6324)  Middle: NK67GMG (6315)  Right: NK67GMZ (6321) by BG Transport Pictures, on Flickr

Thanks Dan, i don't follow him on Flickr, so didn't know there was a pic, must of where he got his information from!


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

S813 FVK



6,030
16 Dec 2017, 3:32 pm #292
(16 Dec 2017, 3:26 pm)westy3738 This works off 825 St Bedes to Flint Hill

Indeed it does. The folk of South Moor and South Stanley don’t tend to understand the importance of keeping a public place clean. I bet they wouldn’t leave their bedrooms at home in such a state!
S813 FVK
16 Dec 2017, 3:32 pm #292

(16 Dec 2017, 3:26 pm)westy3738 This works off 825 St Bedes to Flint Hill

Indeed it does. The folk of South Moor and South Stanley don’t tend to understand the importance of keeping a public place clean. I bet they wouldn’t leave their bedrooms at home in such a state!

JP6004



1,833
16 Dec 2017, 4:06 pm #293
(16 Dec 2017, 8:27 am)Dan Photo below.

Sits really well on the Gemini, in my opinion. Pity about the advert frames which will cover much of the branding at the top, but I'm led to believe that only half of them are planned to receive the frames (like Red Arrows).

Nice to see the green credentials being pushed too. The 'ELECTRIC HYBRID' above the brand name is subtle but works, and the design of the leaf with the electric bolt inside of it is a really clever idea. It seems to be a common theme around the Go-Ahead Group, with Brighton & Hove's latest batch of StreetDecks featuring the tagline above the upper-deck windows "low-emission bus" and Oxford Bus Company heavily promoting the Hybrids in their various brands.

[Image: 38202916295_4265346135.jpg]Go North East: 6061 / NK62CJE by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

Looks stunning. Really suits the B9s
JP6004
16 Dec 2017, 4:06 pm #293

(16 Dec 2017, 8:27 am)Dan Photo below.

Sits really well on the Gemini, in my opinion. Pity about the advert frames which will cover much of the branding at the top, but I'm led to believe that only half of them are planned to receive the frames (like Red Arrows).

Nice to see the green credentials being pushed too. The 'ELECTRIC HYBRID' above the brand name is subtle but works, and the design of the leaf with the electric bolt inside of it is a really clever idea. It seems to be a common theme around the Go-Ahead Group, with Brighton & Hove's latest batch of StreetDecks featuring the tagline above the upper-deck windows "low-emission bus" and Oxford Bus Company heavily promoting the Hybrids in their various brands.

[Image: 38202916295_4265346135.jpg]Go North East: 6061 / NK62CJE by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

Looks stunning. Really suits the B9s

LeeCalder



1,928
16 Dec 2017, 4:23 pm #294
(16 Dec 2017, 11:21 am)Michael Wonder when the last 3 MPD's will get withdrawn?

Contacted someone within GNE with regards to spare MPD parts for 574, and they said they would have a full list by the end of January - so not too long I would imagine.
LeeCalder
16 Dec 2017, 4:23 pm #294

(16 Dec 2017, 11:21 am)Michael Wonder when the last 3 MPD's will get withdrawn?

Contacted someone within GNE with regards to spare MPD parts for 574, and they said they would have a full list by the end of January - so not too long I would imagine.

16 Dec 2017, 6:08 pm #295
D
(16 Dec 2017, 4:06 pm)JP6004 Looks stunning. Really suits the B9s


I agree, I think it looks very smart in the Coaster livery.
thetravelman
16 Dec 2017, 6:08 pm #295

D

(16 Dec 2017, 4:06 pm)JP6004 Looks stunning. Really suits the B9s


I agree, I think it looks very smart in the Coaster livery.

16 Dec 2017, 7:22 pm #296
(16 Dec 2017, 4:06 pm)JP6004 Looks stunning. Really suits the B9s

It's a Volvo B5LH.

Also will it be receiveing any additonal branding to the front, just looks a bit bare thats all.

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Rapidsnap
16 Dec 2017, 7:22 pm #296

(16 Dec 2017, 4:06 pm)JP6004 Looks stunning. Really suits the B9s

It's a Volvo B5LH.

Also will it be receiveing any additonal branding to the front, just looks a bit bare thats all.


Please feel free to visit my Flickr page - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/
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16 Dec 2017, 7:47 pm #297
Quite surprised to see all 3 Citaro's returning to Washington. I thought 5324 might have transferred to Riverside to act as the spare for the 26/27 along with 5323 with one of the Omnicity's from Percy Main replacing it at Washington
Dans_bus_photos
16 Dec 2017, 7:47 pm #297

Quite surprised to see all 3 Citaro's returning to Washington. I thought 5324 might have transferred to Riverside to act as the spare for the 26/27 along with 5323 with one of the Omnicity's from Percy Main replacing it at Washington

JP6004



1,833
16 Dec 2017, 7:59 pm #298
(16 Dec 2017, 7:22 pm)Rapidsnap It's a Volvo B5LH.

Also will it be receiveing any additonal branding to the front, just looks a bit bare thats all.

Typo   Tongue
JP6004
16 Dec 2017, 7:59 pm #298

(16 Dec 2017, 7:22 pm)Rapidsnap It's a Volvo B5LH.

Also will it be receiveing any additonal branding to the front, just looks a bit bare thats all.

Typo   Tongue

17 Dec 2017, 1:47 am #299
(16 Dec 2017, 7:59 pm)JP6004 Typo   Tongue

I agree they look bare but then it's common with all the other latest brands. Tynedale Express just looks like an afterthought on the side of an orange bus.
Coastliner700
17 Dec 2017, 1:47 am #299

(16 Dec 2017, 7:59 pm)JP6004 Typo   Tongue

I agree they look bare but then it's common with all the other latest brands. Tynedale Express just looks like an afterthought on the side of an orange bus.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,128
17 Dec 2017, 8:18 am #300
(16 Dec 2017, 7:47 pm)Dans_bus_photos Quite surprised to see all 3 Citaro's returning to Washington. I thought 5324 might have transferred to Riverside to act as the spare for the 26/27 along with 5323 with one of the Omnicity's from Percy Main replacing it at Washington

Of course, nothing to suggest that won't happen yet...

None of the Hybrids have yet entered service at Percy Main to release the OmniCitys anywhere else.
Dan
17 Dec 2017, 8:18 am #300

(16 Dec 2017, 7:47 pm)Dans_bus_photos Quite surprised to see all 3 Citaro's returning to Washington. I thought 5324 might have transferred to Riverside to act as the spare for the 26/27 along with 5323 with one of the Omnicity's from Percy Main replacing it at Washington

Of course, nothing to suggest that won't happen yet...

None of the Hybrids have yet entered service at Percy Main to release the OmniCitys anywhere else.

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