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08 Oct 2016, 12:34 pm #21
(07 Oct 2016, 6:33 pm)GX03 SVC 4th September changes saw 4659 move to X20, and one of 7412-5 move to X14 alongside 7517 and a QLIN E400.

4653 is now a spare for MAX routes X14/5/6/8/20, alongside 7412 and 7515/6 which are branded as QLIN for flexibility. 4659 should receive X20 branding in the near future....hopefully!

If anyone wants to get the OmniCity run, its the first southbound X20 that starts at Hadston on Saturdays. Arrives Haymarket at 0725. It is the last Alnwick run on the evening.

Still has X14 branding just left haymarket (13:33) bound for Alnwick
Stuartphin1639
08 Oct 2016, 12:34 pm #21

(07 Oct 2016, 6:33 pm)GX03 SVC 4th September changes saw 4659 move to X20, and one of 7412-5 move to X14 alongside 7517 and a QLIN E400.

4653 is now a spare for MAX routes X14/5/6/8/20, alongside 7412 and 7515/6 which are branded as QLIN for flexibility. 4659 should receive X20 branding in the near future....hopefully!

If anyone wants to get the OmniCity run, its the first southbound X20 that starts at Hadston on Saturdays. Arrives Haymarket at 0725. It is the last Alnwick run on the evening.

Still has X14 branding just left haymarket (13:33) bound for Alnwick

Buses98



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25 Nov 2016, 11:18 am #22
(08 Oct 2016, 12:34 pm)Stuartphin1639 Still has X14 branding just left haymarket (13:33) bound for Alnwick

it is due to get X20 branding over the weekend

Prefer
7486 LJ51 DGZ
1764 NK05 GWC
5230 NK55 OLH
6301 NK16 BXA
22570 SP08 DCV
12078 NK11 DJD
FJ61 EXO
Buses98
25 Nov 2016, 11:18 am #22

(08 Oct 2016, 12:34 pm)Stuartphin1639 Still has X14 branding just left haymarket (13:33) bound for Alnwick

it is due to get X20 branding over the weekend


Prefer
7486 LJ51 DGZ
1764 NK05 GWC
5230 NK55 OLH
6301 NK16 BXA
22570 SP08 DCV
12078 NK11 DJD
FJ61 EXO

JoshP



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13 Dec 2016, 7:54 pm #23
Would it make sense for Darlington, when the X21 goes MAX Pulsar, to move all 14 Eco City's onto the 1/5/5A/19/12 and put Pulsars on the 2 & 8/8A?

Not sure of the PVR for the routes mentioned but it's just an idea.
JoshP
13 Dec 2016, 7:54 pm #23

Would it make sense for Darlington, when the X21 goes MAX Pulsar, to move all 14 Eco City's onto the 1/5/5A/19/12 and put Pulsars on the 2 & 8/8A?

Not sure of the PVR for the routes mentioned but it's just an idea.

13 Dec 2016, 8:39 pm #24
(25 Nov 2016, 11:18 am)Buses98 it is due to get X20 branding over the weekend

Err, no.
omnicity4659
13 Dec 2016, 8:39 pm #24

(25 Nov 2016, 11:18 am)Buses98 it is due to get X20 branding over the weekend

Err, no.

14 Dec 2016, 12:38 am #25
(13 Dec 2016, 7:54 pm)JoshP Would it make sense for Darlington, when the X21 goes MAX Pulsar, to move all 14 Eco City's onto the 1/5/5A/19/12 and put Pulsars on the 2 & 8/8A?

Not sure of the PVR for the routes mentioned but it's just an idea.

PVR of 2 - is 8 (4801-08)
PVR of 8/8A is 3


PVR of 1/5/5A/19 is 6
PVR of 1/5/5A/12 is 7

So ideally they all could go on the 1/5/5A/12/19, only thing is 2 of the 5 running boards are out until midnight, so would possibly have to get changed over at some point
Stuartphin1639
14 Dec 2016, 12:38 am #25

(13 Dec 2016, 7:54 pm)JoshP Would it make sense for Darlington, when the X21 goes MAX Pulsar, to move all 14 Eco City's onto the 1/5/5A/19/12 and put Pulsars on the 2 & 8/8A?

Not sure of the PVR for the routes mentioned but it's just an idea.

PVR of 2 - is 8 (4801-08)
PVR of 8/8A is 3


PVR of 1/5/5A/19 is 6
PVR of 1/5/5A/12 is 7

So ideally they all could go on the 1/5/5A/12/19, only thing is 2 of the 5 running boards are out until midnight, so would possibly have to get changed over at some point

23 Mar 2017, 12:17 pm #26
7416 and 7446 are now part of the 35 allocation. Both vehicles are being kept local as whenever they stray to places like Newcastle or Berwick they break down....
omnicity4659
23 Mar 2017, 12:17 pm #26

7416 and 7446 are now part of the 35 allocation. Both vehicles are being kept local as whenever they stray to places like Newcastle or Berwick they break down....

mb134



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23 Mar 2017, 2:28 pm #27
(23 Mar 2017, 12:17 pm)omnicity4659 7416 and 7446 are now part of the 35 allocation. Both vehicles are being kept local as whenever they stray to places like Newcastle or Berwick they break down....

"Stray to places like Newcastle", so when they go on the routes they should be allocated to?  Angel

So are Ashington okay with them permanently breaking down on the 35 instead?
mb134
23 Mar 2017, 2:28 pm #27

(23 Mar 2017, 12:17 pm)omnicity4659 7416 and 7446 are now part of the 35 allocation. Both vehicles are being kept local as whenever they stray to places like Newcastle or Berwick they break down....

"Stray to places like Newcastle", so when they go on the routes they should be allocated to?  Angel

So are Ashington okay with them permanently breaking down on the 35 instead?

23 Mar 2017, 3:20 pm #28
(23 Mar 2017, 2:28 pm)mb134 "Stray to places like Newcastle", so when they go on the routes they should be allocated to?  Angel

So are Ashington okay with them permanently breaking down on the 35 instead?

7446 shouldn't be going to Newcastle.

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Cobalt271
23 Mar 2017, 3:20 pm #28

(23 Mar 2017, 2:28 pm)mb134 "Stray to places like Newcastle", so when they go on the routes they should be allocated to?  Angel

So are Ashington okay with them permanently breaking down on the 35 instead?

7446 shouldn't be going to Newcastle.


Check out my Flickr - www.flickr.com/cobalt512

23 Mar 2017, 3:59 pm #29
(23 Mar 2017, 2:28 pm)mb134 "Stray to places like Newcastle", so when they go on the routes they should be allocated to?  Angel

So are Ashington okay with them permanently breaking down on the 35 instead?

They've never broke down on the 35 for the last couple of weeks, but whenever they go further afield they decided to break in some convenient places!

Jesmond ended up having 7446 for a day a few weeks back, after it broke down in Haymarket the previous day, so they used it on Metros, broke down a couple of hours later...
omnicity4659
23 Mar 2017, 3:59 pm #29

(23 Mar 2017, 2:28 pm)mb134 "Stray to places like Newcastle", so when they go on the routes they should be allocated to?  Angel

So are Ashington okay with them permanently breaking down on the 35 instead?

They've never broke down on the 35 for the last couple of weeks, but whenever they go further afield they decided to break in some convenient places!

Jesmond ended up having 7446 for a day a few weeks back, after it broke down in Haymarket the previous day, so they used it on Metros, broke down a couple of hours later...

mb134



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23 Mar 2017, 6:29 pm #30
(23 Mar 2017, 3:59 pm)omnicity4659 They've never broke down on the 35 for the last couple of weeks, but whenever they go further afield they decided to break in some convenient places!

Jesmond ended up having 7446 for a day a few weeks back, after it broke down in Haymarket the previous day, so they used it on Metros, broke down a couple of hours later...

A homesick pair of B7's then...

Is the plan to keep them on the 35 indefinitely, or until they can be properly looked at mechanically?
mb134
23 Mar 2017, 6:29 pm #30

(23 Mar 2017, 3:59 pm)omnicity4659 They've never broke down on the 35 for the last couple of weeks, but whenever they go further afield they decided to break in some convenient places!

Jesmond ended up having 7446 for a day a few weeks back, after it broke down in Haymarket the previous day, so they used it on Metros, broke down a couple of hours later...

A homesick pair of B7's then...

Is the plan to keep them on the 35 indefinitely, or until they can be properly looked at mechanically?

JoshP



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11 Jul 2017, 8:43 pm #31
So we've had the Solos in service since 2008 now, just short of 10 years. How long do you think they have left before they'll need replacing by a new Midi/Mini Bus?

This also goes for some of the Pulsars. How long do you reckon they have left before replacement, and what do you think will replace them in the future? A newer Wright bodied vehicle? Enviro 200MMCs?
JoshP
11 Jul 2017, 8:43 pm #31

So we've had the Solos in service since 2008 now, just short of 10 years. How long do you think they have left before they'll need replacing by a new Midi/Mini Bus?

This also goes for some of the Pulsars. How long do you reckon they have left before replacement, and what do you think will replace them in the future? A newer Wright bodied vehicle? Enviro 200MMCs?

RobinHood



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11 Jul 2017, 8:50 pm #32
(11 Jul 2017, 8:43 pm)JoshP So we've had the Solos in service since 2008 now, just short of 10 years. How long do you think they have left before they'll need replacing by a new Midi/Mini Bus?

This also goes for some of the Pulsars. How long do you reckon they have left before replacement, and what do you think will replace them in the future? A newer Wright bodied vehicle? Enviro 200MMCs?

On paper, the 08 Solos will be fully depreciated next year as mini buses depreciate over 10 years, but due to the number they have, any new vehicles may come in over next few years to replace them, suggesting some examples may cling on for a while yet (epecially as darts still need to be withdrawn in places first).

Pulsars won't be end of life until 2024/2025, as Arriva depreciate single and double deckers over 15 years.

The next single deck buses due to go are Volvo B10BLEs at Jesmond, SB120s at Stockton and Commanders at Blyth.
RobinHood
11 Jul 2017, 8:50 pm #32

(11 Jul 2017, 8:43 pm)JoshP So we've had the Solos in service since 2008 now, just short of 10 years. How long do you think they have left before they'll need replacing by a new Midi/Mini Bus?

This also goes for some of the Pulsars. How long do you reckon they have left before replacement, and what do you think will replace them in the future? A newer Wright bodied vehicle? Enviro 200MMCs?

On paper, the 08 Solos will be fully depreciated next year as mini buses depreciate over 10 years, but due to the number they have, any new vehicles may come in over next few years to replace them, suggesting some examples may cling on for a while yet (epecially as darts still need to be withdrawn in places first).

Pulsars won't be end of life until 2024/2025, as Arriva depreciate single and double deckers over 15 years.

The next single deck buses due to go are Volvo B10BLEs at Jesmond, SB120s at Stockton and Commanders at Blyth.

JoshP



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11 Jul 2017, 9:00 pm #33
(11 Jul 2017, 8:50 pm)RobinHood On paper, the 08 Solos will be fully depreciated next year as mini buses depreciate over 10 years, but due to the number they have, any new vehicles may come in over next few years to replace them, suggesting some examples may cling on for a while yet (epecially as darts still need to be withdrawn in places first).

Pulsars won't be end of life until 2024/2025, as Arriva depreciate single and double deckers over 15 years.

The next single deck buses due to go are Volvo B10BLEs at Jesmond, SB120s at Stockton and Commanders at Blyth.

Cool thanks! What do you reckon will replace the Solos? Darlo's are in the process of getting NSA's installed (I believe) So as you say I think they'll be around for a while longer yet.
JoshP
11 Jul 2017, 9:00 pm #33

(11 Jul 2017, 8:50 pm)RobinHood On paper, the 08 Solos will be fully depreciated next year as mini buses depreciate over 10 years, but due to the number they have, any new vehicles may come in over next few years to replace them, suggesting some examples may cling on for a while yet (epecially as darts still need to be withdrawn in places first).

Pulsars won't be end of life until 2024/2025, as Arriva depreciate single and double deckers over 15 years.

The next single deck buses due to go are Volvo B10BLEs at Jesmond, SB120s at Stockton and Commanders at Blyth.

Cool thanks! What do you reckon will replace the Solos? Darlo's are in the process of getting NSA's installed (I believe) So as you say I think they'll be around for a while longer yet.

peter



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11 Jul 2017, 10:29 pm #34
(11 Jul 2017, 8:50 pm)RobinHood On paper, the 08 Solos will be fully depreciated next year as mini buses depreciate over 10 years, but due to the number they have, any new vehicles may come in over next few years to replace them, suggesting some examples may cling on for a while yet (epecially as darts still need to be withdrawn in places first).

Pulsars won't be end of life until 2024/2025, as Arriva depreciate single and double deckers over 15 years.

The next single deck buses due to go are Volvo B10BLEs at Jesmond, SB120s at Stockton and Commanders at Blyth.

(11 Jul 2017, 9:00 pm)JoshP Cool thanks! What do you reckon will replace the Solos? Darlo's are in the process of getting NSA's installed (I believe) So as you say I think they'll be around for a while longer yet.

I always thought Mini-buses depreciated over 12 years. The 05-reg darts certainly seem to suggest this. After all they're just being withdrawn this year at 12 years old. I would suggest that the Solos will be around until at least 2020. There again depending on their condition, they may last even longer.
peter
11 Jul 2017, 10:29 pm #34

(11 Jul 2017, 8:50 pm)RobinHood On paper, the 08 Solos will be fully depreciated next year as mini buses depreciate over 10 years, but due to the number they have, any new vehicles may come in over next few years to replace them, suggesting some examples may cling on for a while yet (epecially as darts still need to be withdrawn in places first).

Pulsars won't be end of life until 2024/2025, as Arriva depreciate single and double deckers over 15 years.

The next single deck buses due to go are Volvo B10BLEs at Jesmond, SB120s at Stockton and Commanders at Blyth.

(11 Jul 2017, 9:00 pm)JoshP Cool thanks! What do you reckon will replace the Solos? Darlo's are in the process of getting NSA's installed (I believe) So as you say I think they'll be around for a while longer yet.

I always thought Mini-buses depreciated over 12 years. The 05-reg darts certainly seem to suggest this. After all they're just being withdrawn this year at 12 years old. I would suggest that the Solos will be around until at least 2020. There again depending on their condition, they may last even longer.

Multi21



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11 Jul 2017, 10:41 pm #35
(11 Jul 2017, 8:50 pm)RobinHood The next single deck buses due to go are Volvo B10BLEs at Jesmond, SB120s at Stockton and Commanders at Blyth.

Place your bets now!

BLEs New Enviro 200s
SB120s Cascaded pulsars from Durham or Darlington 
Commanders 3 ex London Stock deckers
Multi21
11 Jul 2017, 10:41 pm #35

(11 Jul 2017, 8:50 pm)RobinHood The next single deck buses due to go are Volvo B10BLEs at Jesmond, SB120s at Stockton and Commanders at Blyth.

Place your bets now!

BLEs New Enviro 200s
SB120s Cascaded pulsars from Durham or Darlington 
Commanders 3 ex London Stock deckers

12 Jul 2017, 9:27 am #36
Commanders have only just had a repaint, and have had work done to have interior branding inside, so I reckon they'll be around for a while yet.

I don't think deckers would be a logical replacement, seeing that the Commanders usually provide extra capacity on 1/2.
Edited 12 Jul 2017, 9:28 am by omnicity4659.
omnicity4659
12 Jul 2017, 9:27 am #36

Commanders have only just had a repaint, and have had work done to have interior branding inside, so I reckon they'll be around for a while yet.

I don't think deckers would be a logical replacement, seeing that the Commanders usually provide extra capacity on 1/2.

mb134



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12 Jul 2017, 9:43 am #37
(12 Jul 2017, 9:27 am)omnicity4659 Commanders have only just had a repaint, and have had work done to have interior branding inside, so I reckon they'll be around for a while yet.

I don't think deckers would be a logical replacement, seeing that the Commanders usually provide extra capacity on 1/2.

Commanders usually allocated to X7/X8/X9 from my experience. All routes which really should be allocated deckers, especially at peak times.
mb134
12 Jul 2017, 9:43 am #37

(12 Jul 2017, 9:27 am)omnicity4659 Commanders have only just had a repaint, and have had work done to have interior branding inside, so I reckon they'll be around for a while yet.

I don't think deckers would be a logical replacement, seeing that the Commanders usually provide extra capacity on 1/2.

Commanders usually allocated to X7/X8/X9 from my experience. All routes which really should be allocated deckers, especially at peak times.

12 Jul 2017, 12:54 pm #38
(12 Jul 2017, 9:43 am)mb134 Commanders usually allocated to X7/X8/X9 from my experience. All routes which really should be allocated deckers, especially at peak times.

I've had 1402/3 on the 1 when I've been using it (about 4/5 times in the last month, and only had 1 MPD in those times).
omnicity4659
12 Jul 2017, 12:54 pm #38

(12 Jul 2017, 9:43 am)mb134 Commanders usually allocated to X7/X8/X9 from my experience. All routes which really should be allocated deckers, especially at peak times.

I've had 1402/3 on the 1 when I've been using it (about 4/5 times in the last month, and only had 1 MPD in those times).

Pulsar



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21 Mar 2018, 9:04 pm #39
The 16:30 X30 Newcastle to Blyth is now operated by Jesmond. Previously it was operated by Ashington.

yesterday saw 7413 and today had 4521 allocated.

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Pulsar
21 Mar 2018, 9:04 pm #39

The 16:30 X30 Newcastle to Blyth is now operated by Jesmond. Previously it was operated by Ashington.

yesterday saw 7413 and today had 4521 allocated.


My Flickr Account - Photos from the North East and Beyond.

Cock Robin



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22 Mar 2018, 1:40 pm #40
The BLEs are already scheduled to go aren't they?
Cock Robin
22 Mar 2018, 1:40 pm #40

The BLEs are already scheduled to go aren't they?

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