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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2018

 
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Michael



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05 Jul 2018, 5:55 pm #21
(04 Jul 2018, 9:15 pm)Kuyoyo 23 being extended back to the Marina - believe the 22/23/24 will interwork at both ends so you’ll have so many buses doing 22/23/24 and so many doing 24/23/22.

So will it be all Pulsars on those services?, don't really follow Arriva.
Edited 05 Jul 2018, 5:55 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 Jul 2018, 5:55 pm #21

(04 Jul 2018, 9:15 pm)Kuyoyo 23 being extended back to the Marina - believe the 22/23/24 will interwork at both ends so you’ll have so many buses doing 22/23/24 and so many doing 24/23/22.

So will it be all Pulsars on those services?, don't really follow Arriva.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

S830OFT



1,395
05 Jul 2018, 6:09 pm #22
(05 Jul 2018, 5:55 pm)Michael So will it be all Pulsars on those services?, don't really follow Arriva.

They could swap 1595 - 1601 with pulsars from Stockton and allow Stockton's 7 to be upgraded to Sapphire. Then refurbish the 09 plate Pulsars into Sapphire for Belmont.


S830OFT
05 Jul 2018, 6:09 pm #22

(05 Jul 2018, 5:55 pm)Michael So will it be all Pulsars on those services?, don't really follow Arriva.

They could swap 1595 - 1601 with pulsars from Stockton and allow Stockton's 7 to be upgraded to Sapphire. Then refurbish the 09 plate Pulsars into Sapphire for Belmont.



05 Jul 2018, 6:09 pm #23
(05 Jul 2018, 5:55 pm)Michael So will it be all Pulsars on those services?, don't really follow Arriva.

Mix of Pulsars, Streetlites and E400s if they use what's currently on those services.
deanmachine
05 Jul 2018, 6:09 pm #23

(05 Jul 2018, 5:55 pm)Michael So will it be all Pulsars on those services?, don't really follow Arriva.

Mix of Pulsars, Streetlites and E400s if they use what's currently on those services.

Kuyoyo



6,849
05 Jul 2018, 6:17 pm #24
(05 Jul 2018, 5:55 pm)Michael So will it be all Pulsars on those services?, don't really follow Arriva.

Some of the Pulsars that moved from Darlington to Durham are due to be refurbished to Sapphire Standard - believe 1498, 1506/7 are amongst them. Not sure what is happening regarding the current stock - we’ll see closer to the time.

(05 Jul 2018, 6:09 pm)S830OFT They could swap 1595 - 1601 with pulsars from Stockton and allow Stockton's 7 to be upgraded to Sapphire. Then refurbish the 09 plate Pulsars into Sapphire for Belmont.

1595-1601 aren’t going anywhere. Given 1423/4 are in the process of or have been fitted with the NSA screen size taken out of the Solos - they are staying.

(05 Jul 2018, 5:55 pm)Michael So will it be all Pulsars on those services?, don't really follow Arriva.

Some of the Pulsars that moved from Darlington to Durham are due to be refurbished to Sapphire Standard - believe 1498, 1506/7 are amongst them. Not sure what is happening regarding the current stock - we’ll see closer to the time.

(05 Jul 2018, 6:09 pm)S830OFT They could swap 1595 - 1601 with pulsars from Stockton and allow Stockton's 7 to be upgraded to Sapphire. Then refurbish the 09 plate Pulsars into Sapphire for Belmont.

1595-1601 aren’t going anywhere. Given 1423/4 are in the process of or have been fitted with the NSA screen size taken out of the Solos - they are staying.
Edited 05 Jul 2018, 6:17 pm by Kuyoyo.
Kuyoyo
05 Jul 2018, 6:17 pm #24

(05 Jul 2018, 5:55 pm)Michael So will it be all Pulsars on those services?, don't really follow Arriva.

Some of the Pulsars that moved from Darlington to Durham are due to be refurbished to Sapphire Standard - believe 1498, 1506/7 are amongst them. Not sure what is happening regarding the current stock - we’ll see closer to the time.

(05 Jul 2018, 6:09 pm)S830OFT They could swap 1595 - 1601 with pulsars from Stockton and allow Stockton's 7 to be upgraded to Sapphire. Then refurbish the 09 plate Pulsars into Sapphire for Belmont.

1595-1601 aren’t going anywhere. Given 1423/4 are in the process of or have been fitted with the NSA screen size taken out of the Solos - they are staying.

(05 Jul 2018, 5:55 pm)Michael So will it be all Pulsars on those services?, don't really follow Arriva.

Some of the Pulsars that moved from Darlington to Durham are due to be refurbished to Sapphire Standard - believe 1498, 1506/7 are amongst them. Not sure what is happening regarding the current stock - we’ll see closer to the time.

(05 Jul 2018, 6:09 pm)S830OFT They could swap 1595 - 1601 with pulsars from Stockton and allow Stockton's 7 to be upgraded to Sapphire. Then refurbish the 09 plate Pulsars into Sapphire for Belmont.

1595-1601 aren’t going anywhere. Given 1423/4 are in the process of or have been fitted with the NSA screen size taken out of the Solos - they are staying.

05 Jul 2018, 7:23 pm #25
(04 Jul 2018, 7:27 pm)RobinHood The 22 and 24 branding was done to most vehicles but then abandoned, as the 23 will definately go Sapphire with it from September - all vehicles on 22/23/24 interworking at Hartlepool and Sunderland.

I presume they will all be rebranded then, into a standard.

Will be interesting to see how the branding looks on the new buses and how they will adapt it for all three routes if they decide to do that.
BeachBoy99
05 Jul 2018, 7:23 pm #25

(04 Jul 2018, 7:27 pm)RobinHood The 22 and 24 branding was done to most vehicles but then abandoned, as the 23 will definately go Sapphire with it from September - all vehicles on 22/23/24 interworking at Hartlepool and Sunderland.

I presume they will all be rebranded then, into a standard.

Will be interesting to see how the branding looks on the new buses and how they will adapt it for all three routes if they decide to do that.

Jimmi



10,966
05 Jul 2018, 7:48 pm #26
(05 Jul 2018, 7:23 pm)BeachBoy99 Will be interesting to see how the branding looks on the new buses and how they will adapt it for all three routes if they decide to do that.
What's the betting we end up with a mix of new and old Sapphire liveries like the X21/X22
Jimmi
05 Jul 2018, 7:48 pm #26

(05 Jul 2018, 7:23 pm)BeachBoy99 Will be interesting to see how the branding looks on the new buses and how they will adapt it for all three routes if they decide to do that.
What's the betting we end up with a mix of new and old Sapphire liveries like the X21/X22

RobinHood



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05 Jul 2018, 8:42 pm #27
(05 Jul 2018, 7:48 pm)Jimmi What's the betting we end up with a mix of new and old Sapphire liveries like the X21/X22

Pretty much guaranteed.
RobinHood
05 Jul 2018, 8:42 pm #27

(05 Jul 2018, 7:48 pm)Jimmi What's the betting we end up with a mix of new and old Sapphire liveries like the X21/X22

Pretty much guaranteed.

06 Jul 2018, 9:49 am #28
2854 now has a rear advert for chapters homes
Stuartphin1639
06 Jul 2018, 9:49 am #28

2854 now has a rear advert for chapters homes

Cock Robin



2,778
07 Jul 2018, 2:41 pm #29
(05 Jul 2018, 6:09 pm)S830OFT They could swap 1595 - 1601 with pulsars from Stockton and allow Stockton's 7 to be upgraded to Sapphire. Then refurbish the 09 plate Pulsars into Sapphire for Belmont.

Good idea.





1595-1601 aren’t going anywhere. Given 1423/4 are in the process of or have been fitted with the NSA screen size taken out of the Solos - they are staying.
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Send 1423/4 etc to Durham as Sapphire for 22/23/24 then.
Edited 07 Jul 2018, 2:43 pm by Cock Robin.
Cock Robin
07 Jul 2018, 2:41 pm #29

(05 Jul 2018, 6:09 pm)S830OFT They could swap 1595 - 1601 with pulsars from Stockton and allow Stockton's 7 to be upgraded to Sapphire. Then refurbish the 09 plate Pulsars into Sapphire for Belmont.

Good idea.





1595-1601 aren’t going anywhere. Given 1423/4 are in the process of or have been fitted with the NSA screen size taken out of the Solos - they are staying.
[/quote]

Send 1423/4 etc to Durham as Sapphire for 22/23/24 then.

Multi21



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13 Jul 2018, 11:53 pm #30
(07 Jul 2018, 2:41 pm)Cock Robin Good idea.





1595-1601 aren’t going anywhere. Given 1423/4 are in the process of or have been fitted with the NSA screen size taken out of the Solos - they are staying.

Send 1423/4 etc to Durham as Sapphire for 22/23/24 then.
[/quote]

Or you know.... Send all 10 Stockton Streetlites to Durham for brand standardisation across 22/23/24 and send 10 pulsars to Stockton for fleet standardisation ??

In other news... 15 branded pulsars on the 5/5A and 5/5A branded Streetlites on the 15 for the next few weeks... Wonder if that has anything to do with the above comment.. Hmmm.
Multi21
13 Jul 2018, 11:53 pm #30

(07 Jul 2018, 2:41 pm)Cock Robin Good idea.





1595-1601 aren’t going anywhere. Given 1423/4 are in the process of or have been fitted with the NSA screen size taken out of the Solos - they are staying.

Send 1423/4 etc to Durham as Sapphire for 22/23/24 then.
[/quote]

Or you know.... Send all 10 Stockton Streetlites to Durham for brand standardisation across 22/23/24 and send 10 pulsars to Stockton for fleet standardisation ??

In other news... 15 branded pulsars on the 5/5A and 5/5A branded Streetlites on the 15 for the next few weeks... Wonder if that has anything to do with the above comment.. Hmmm.

16 Jul 2018, 12:34 pm #31
9996 (ex-AY 1406) YJ56 JYN has joined the training fleet at Stockton.
4520 is now 9997.


RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

RBZ 5459
16 Jul 2018, 12:34 pm #31

9996 (ex-AY 1406) YJ56 JYN has joined the training fleet at Stockton.
4520 is now 9997.



RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

jimmoc



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16 Jul 2018, 1:52 pm #32
I know this nothing to do with what on here am sorry if it's in wrong what routes did arriva peterlee do before it closed
jimmoc
16 Jul 2018, 1:52 pm #32

I know this nothing to do with what on here am sorry if it's in wrong what routes did arriva peterlee do before it closed

James101



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16 Jul 2018, 3:08 pm #33
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(16 Jul 2018, 1:52 pm)jimmoc I know this nothing to do with what on here am sorry if it's in wrong what routes did arriva peterlee do before it closed

Until around 2007 the Peterlee network had been resonably stable for a long time. From what I remember the operated:

One main service group was all Arriva services into Hartlepool except the 33, which was a Bishop route - i.e:

22 Durham - Wingate - Hartlepool 
230 Hartlepool - Horden - Sunderland 
242 Hartlepool - Peterlee - Durham (Plus evening & Sunday variation 243)

Another group was the 212/3/4/5 from Sunderland to (in various revisions) Middlesbrough, Darlington, Thornley, Deaf Hill & Thornaby.

Whilst I remember those two groups being the main work of the depot there was also miscellaneous work such as the X27 to the Metrocentre, 246 Hutton Henry circular & 239 evening Easington - Sedgefield. 

Peterlee town services were operated by Jayline, which became Go North East Jayline/East Durham/Indigo. 

Peterlee depot survived long enough to see the network recast as the 21/22/23/24/25 group of services as well as briefly operating tendered service 3A in Hartlepool and recive new Solos shortly before closing with the work transferred to Belmont. 

Others may remember more than me.
James101
16 Jul 2018, 3:08 pm #33

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(16 Jul 2018, 1:52 pm)jimmoc I know this nothing to do with what on here am sorry if it's in wrong what routes did arriva peterlee do before it closed

Until around 2007 the Peterlee network had been resonably stable for a long time. From what I remember the operated:

One main service group was all Arriva services into Hartlepool except the 33, which was a Bishop route - i.e:

22 Durham - Wingate - Hartlepool 
230 Hartlepool - Horden - Sunderland 
242 Hartlepool - Peterlee - Durham (Plus evening & Sunday variation 243)

Another group was the 212/3/4/5 from Sunderland to (in various revisions) Middlesbrough, Darlington, Thornley, Deaf Hill & Thornaby.

Whilst I remember those two groups being the main work of the depot there was also miscellaneous work such as the X27 to the Metrocentre, 246 Hutton Henry circular & 239 evening Easington - Sedgefield. 

Peterlee town services were operated by Jayline, which became Go North East Jayline/East Durham/Indigo. 

Peterlee depot survived long enough to see the network recast as the 21/22/23/24/25 group of services as well as briefly operating tendered service 3A in Hartlepool and recive new Solos shortly before closing with the work transferred to Belmont. 

Others may remember more than me.

jimmoc



154
16 Jul 2018, 3:56 pm #34
(16 Jul 2018, 3:08 pm)James101 I
Until around 2007 the Peterlee network had been resonably stable for a long time. From what I remember the operated:

One main service group was all Arriva services into Hartlepool except the 33, which was a Bishop route - i.e:

22 Durham - Wingate - Hartlepool 
230 Hartlepool - Horden - Sunderland 
242 Hartlepool - Peterlee - Durham (Plus evening & Sunday variation 243)

Another group was the 212/3/4/5 from Sunderland to (in various revisions) Middlesbrough, Darlington, Thornley, Deaf Hill & Thornaby.

Whilst I remember those two groups being the main work of the depot there was also miscellaneous work such as the X27 to the Metrocentre, 246 Hutton Henry circular & 239 evening Easington - Sedgefield. 

Peterlee town services were operated by Jayline, which became Go North East Jayline/East Durham/Indigo. 

Peterlee depot survived long enough to see the network recast as the 21/22/23/24/25 group of services as well as briefly operating tendered service 3A in Hartlepool and recive new Solos shortly before closing with the work transferred to Belmont. 

Others may remember more than me.

Thank you very much
jimmoc
16 Jul 2018, 3:56 pm #34

(16 Jul 2018, 3:08 pm)James101 I
Until around 2007 the Peterlee network had been resonably stable for a long time. From what I remember the operated:

One main service group was all Arriva services into Hartlepool except the 33, which was a Bishop route - i.e:

22 Durham - Wingate - Hartlepool 
230 Hartlepool - Horden - Sunderland 
242 Hartlepool - Peterlee - Durham (Plus evening & Sunday variation 243)

Another group was the 212/3/4/5 from Sunderland to (in various revisions) Middlesbrough, Darlington, Thornley, Deaf Hill & Thornaby.

Whilst I remember those two groups being the main work of the depot there was also miscellaneous work such as the X27 to the Metrocentre, 246 Hutton Henry circular & 239 evening Easington - Sedgefield. 

Peterlee town services were operated by Jayline, which became Go North East Jayline/East Durham/Indigo. 

Peterlee depot survived long enough to see the network recast as the 21/22/23/24/25 group of services as well as briefly operating tendered service 3A in Hartlepool and recive new Solos shortly before closing with the work transferred to Belmont. 

Others may remember more than me.

Thank you very much

16 Jul 2018, 4:24 pm #35
From next week the X93 between Whitby and Scarborough becomes every 20 minutes during the day. The summer timetable takes 3 extra buses over the winter timetable. Looking at the ''super summer'' timetable [22nd July to 1st September] looks like 2 further buses leaving Middlesbrough and returning on an evening?

Does anyone know what these extra buses will be? Any spare Temsas?  Thanks.
Michael Euston
16 Jul 2018, 4:24 pm #35

From next week the X93 between Whitby and Scarborough becomes every 20 minutes during the day. The summer timetable takes 3 extra buses over the winter timetable. Looking at the ''super summer'' timetable [22nd July to 1st September] looks like 2 further buses leaving Middlesbrough and returning on an evening?

Does anyone know what these extra buses will be? Any spare Temsas?  Thanks.

Cock Robin



2,778
16 Jul 2018, 5:26 pm #36
(16 Jul 2018, 4:24 pm)Michael Euston From next week the X93 between Whitby and Scarborough becomes every 20 minutes during the day. The summer timetable takes 3 extra buses over the winter timetable. Looking at the ''super summer'' timetable [22nd July to 1st September] looks like 2 further buses leaving Middlesbrough and returning on an evening?

Does anyone know what these extra buses will be? Any spare Temsas?  Thanks.

1759 and 4516 have gone from Reserve to Main Fleet but 1759 is off the road!
Cock Robin
16 Jul 2018, 5:26 pm #36

(16 Jul 2018, 4:24 pm)Michael Euston From next week the X93 between Whitby and Scarborough becomes every 20 minutes during the day. The summer timetable takes 3 extra buses over the winter timetable. Looking at the ''super summer'' timetable [22nd July to 1st September] looks like 2 further buses leaving Middlesbrough and returning on an evening?

Does anyone know what these extra buses will be? Any spare Temsas?  Thanks.

1759 and 4516 have gone from Reserve to Main Fleet but 1759 is off the road!

cbma06



2,669
16 Jul 2018, 5:37 pm #37
(16 Jul 2018, 3:08 pm)James101 I
Until around 2007 the Peterlee network had been resonably stable for a long time. From what I remember the operated:

One main service group was all Arriva services into Hartlepool except the 33, which was a Bishop route - i.e:

22 Durham - Wingate - Hartlepool 
230 Hartlepool - Horden - Sunderland 
242 Hartlepool - Peterlee - Durham (Plus evening & Sunday variation 243)

Another group was the 212/3/4/5 from Sunderland to (in various revisions) Middlesbrough, Darlington, Thornley, Deaf Hill & Thornaby.

Whilst I remember those two groups being the main work of the depot there was also miscellaneous work such as the X27 to the Metrocentre, 246 Hutton Henry circular & 239 evening Easington - Sedgefield. 

Peterlee town services were operated by Jayline, which became Go North East Jayline/East Durham/Indigo. 

Peterlee depot survived long enough to see the network recast as the 21/22/23/24/25 group of services as well as briefly operating tendered service 3A in Hartlepool and recive new Solos shortly before closing with the work transferred to Belmont. 

Others may remember more than me.


Also the 26 and 27.
And 216.

I wouldn’t call it stable as the 215 operated by 2 buses which usually only 1 bus operated every 2 hours instead of hourly due to vehicle off the road and missing oakerside out which you get a service every 3 hours through oakerside, when there were 2 buses allocated to the 216 and one was off the road then the service only did deaf hill to Peterlee only and not the Sunderland section, I’m sure just before leading up to the closure of Peterlee depot that there had all the crap left out from other depots lol, can’t remember how many free tickets that I’ve received from Arriva through the post from buses that don’t turn up at the bus stop and having to get taxis.


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cbma06
16 Jul 2018, 5:37 pm #37

(16 Jul 2018, 3:08 pm)James101 I
Until around 2007 the Peterlee network had been resonably stable for a long time. From what I remember the operated:

One main service group was all Arriva services into Hartlepool except the 33, which was a Bishop route - i.e:

22 Durham - Wingate - Hartlepool 
230 Hartlepool - Horden - Sunderland 
242 Hartlepool - Peterlee - Durham (Plus evening & Sunday variation 243)

Another group was the 212/3/4/5 from Sunderland to (in various revisions) Middlesbrough, Darlington, Thornley, Deaf Hill & Thornaby.

Whilst I remember those two groups being the main work of the depot there was also miscellaneous work such as the X27 to the Metrocentre, 246 Hutton Henry circular & 239 evening Easington - Sedgefield. 

Peterlee town services were operated by Jayline, which became Go North East Jayline/East Durham/Indigo. 

Peterlee depot survived long enough to see the network recast as the 21/22/23/24/25 group of services as well as briefly operating tendered service 3A in Hartlepool and recive new Solos shortly before closing with the work transferred to Belmont. 

Others may remember more than me.


Also the 26 and 27.
And 216.

I wouldn’t call it stable as the 215 operated by 2 buses which usually only 1 bus operated every 2 hours instead of hourly due to vehicle off the road and missing oakerside out which you get a service every 3 hours through oakerside, when there were 2 buses allocated to the 216 and one was off the road then the service only did deaf hill to Peterlee only and not the Sunderland section, I’m sure just before leading up to the closure of Peterlee depot that there had all the crap left out from other depots lol, can’t remember how many free tickets that I’ve received from Arriva through the post from buses that don’t turn up at the bus stop and having to get taxis.


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Jimmi



10,966
16 Jul 2018, 5:42 pm #38
(16 Jul 2018, 4:24 pm)Michael Euston From next week the X93 between Whitby and Scarborough becomes every 20 minutes during the day. The summer timetable takes 3 extra buses over the winter timetable. Looking at the ''super summer'' timetable [22nd July to 1st September] looks like 2 further buses leaving Middlesbrough and returning on an evening?

Does anyone know what these extra buses will be? Any spare Temsas?  Thanks.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong... I think there is 9 boards over this enhanced summer timetable if I have worked things out correctly from looking at the timetable, so if my hunch is correct, that *should* mean the B9s and B7s will be allocated and no doubt the Temsa's will pop up frequently as stand ins although probably end up on there daily especially as 7402 has been confined to the 62 recently.
Jimmi
16 Jul 2018, 5:42 pm #38

(16 Jul 2018, 4:24 pm)Michael Euston From next week the X93 between Whitby and Scarborough becomes every 20 minutes during the day. The summer timetable takes 3 extra buses over the winter timetable. Looking at the ''super summer'' timetable [22nd July to 1st September] looks like 2 further buses leaving Middlesbrough and returning on an evening?

Does anyone know what these extra buses will be? Any spare Temsas?  Thanks.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong... I think there is 9 boards over this enhanced summer timetable if I have worked things out correctly from looking at the timetable, so if my hunch is correct, that *should* mean the B9s and B7s will be allocated and no doubt the Temsa's will pop up frequently as stand ins although probably end up on there daily especially as 7402 has been confined to the 62 recently.

cbma06



2,669
16 Jul 2018, 5:42 pm #39
Originally service 239 was a daytime service aswell and originally the service used to start from Middlesbrough but the boro to sedgefield section got axed, there was a 246 and 247 , 247 went similar route but went to Hartlepool, a lot of the old routes were axed and streamlined to what we know now


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cbma06
16 Jul 2018, 5:42 pm #39

Originally service 239 was a daytime service aswell and originally the service used to start from Middlesbrough but the boro to sedgefield section got axed, there was a 246 and 247 , 247 went similar route but went to Hartlepool, a lot of the old routes were axed and streamlined to what we know now


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16 Jul 2018, 5:57 pm #40
(16 Jul 2018, 5:42 pm)Jimmi Someone correct me if I'm wrong... I think there is 9 boards over this enhanced summer timetable if I have worked things out correctly from looking at the timetable, so if my hunch is correct, that *should* mean the B9s and B7s will be allocated and no doubt the Temsa's will pop up frequently as stand ins although probably end up on there daily especially as 7402 has been confined to the 62 recently.

I thought 5 in winter, 3 extra for summer, then 2 more. But that's what i'm trying to work out.
Michael Euston
16 Jul 2018, 5:57 pm #40

(16 Jul 2018, 5:42 pm)Jimmi Someone correct me if I'm wrong... I think there is 9 boards over this enhanced summer timetable if I have worked things out correctly from looking at the timetable, so if my hunch is correct, that *should* mean the B9s and B7s will be allocated and no doubt the Temsa's will pop up frequently as stand ins although probably end up on there daily especially as 7402 has been confined to the 62 recently.

I thought 5 in winter, 3 extra for summer, then 2 more. But that's what i'm trying to work out.

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