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15/07/2018, 10:45 #1
pbjd
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A Tyne Valley Ten B9, a Great Exhibition of the North Versa, and 6332 went along the Coast Road approximately 15 minutes ago.

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15/07/2018, 16:27 #2
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(15/07/2018, 10:45)pbjd Wrote:  A Tyne Valley Ten B9, a Great Exhibition of the North Versa, and 6332 went along the Coast Road approximately 15 minutes ago.

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GNE sent the following buses to Whitley Bay

5292
5386
6073
6158
6332
9083


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15/07/2018, 19:02 #3
Dan Site Administrator
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Very disappointing to see yet more negativity on Social Media regarding newer vehicles from Go North East attending the rally today.

I didn't get myself to the rally today as I'd intended, but why can't people understand that these events aren't simply for classic buses? They are for buses old and new, for enthusiasts young and old to have a look at, appreciate and ride on.

There shouldn't be such an "us and them" attitude in a hobby with so few people involved in the first place. Madness.

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15/07/2018, 19:25 #4
mb134
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(15/07/2018, 19:02)Dan Wrote:  Very disappointing to see yet more negativity on Social Media regarding newer vehicles from Go North East attending the rally today.

I didn't get myself to the rally today as I'd intended, but why can't people understand that these events aren't simply for classic buses? They are for buses old and new, for enthusiasts young and old to have a look at, appreciate and ride on.

There shouldn't be such an "us and them" attitude in a hobby with so few people involved in the first place. Madness.

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Yet they'd get blasted by the same people if they didn't turn up at all. 

I don't think that the people who make these comments understand that it will cost GNE money to send these vehicles to events, and just think that the bigger companies have money to throw at fuel etc for fun. It also doesn't seem like they appreciate the effort that goes into getting the vehicles looking the way they do for the rally.

15/07/2018, 19:38 #5
LeeCalder
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(15/07/2018, 19:02)Dan Wrote:  Very disappointing to see yet more negativity on Social Media regarding newer vehicles from Go North East attending the rally today.

I didn't get myself to the rally today as I'd intended, but why can't people understand that these events aren't simply for classic buses? They are for buses old and new, for enthusiasts young and old to have a look at, appreciate and ride on.

There shouldn't be such an "us and them" attitude in a hobby with so few people involved in the first place. Madness.

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Which is the reason we are slightly dubious as to what reception 574 will get, especially with older enthusiasts.

There has to be something for everyone, and chances are a 10/11 year old won't be as interested in a Routemaster, as they would a branded GNE vehicle. It all comes down to what you have grown up with.

I remember holding a conversation with one of the rally organisers at Spillars last year, and I asked what the chances of them purchasing something low floor is, but they claimed there is no interest for that sort of thing within the group.

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15/07/2018, 21:16 #6
Jimmi
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(15/07/2018, 19:02)Dan Wrote:  Very disappointing to see yet more negativity on Social Media regarding newer vehicles from Go North East attending the rally today.

I didn't get myself to the rally today as I'd intended, but why can't people understand that these events aren't simply for classic buses? They are for buses old and new, for enthusiasts young and old to have a look at, appreciate and ride on.

There shouldn't be such an "us and them" attitude in a hobby with so few people involved in the first place. Madness.


Think there was only something like 15 buses there in total with 6 of them being GNE buses, says it all really.

No idea what possessed me to go today, 3 hour journey for me to get there to stay for 3 minutes before turning around and jumping back on a 309 to Newcastle (not even joking!).

15/07/2018, 21:31 #7
stagecoachbusdepot
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(15/07/2018, 19:02)Dan Wrote:  Very disappointing to see yet more negativity on Social Media regarding newer vehicles from Go North East attending the rally today.

I didn't get myself to the rally today as I'd intended, but why can't people understand that these events aren't simply for classic buses? They are for buses old and new, for enthusiasts young and old to have a look at, appreciate and ride on.

There shouldn't be such an "us and them" attitude in a hobby with so few people involved in the first place. Madness.

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If that's the case, someone should probably let the organisers know, as NEBPT and GNE promote the event as a 'Vintage Bus Rally':
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Haven't seen the comments on social media however as has already been said on here, the GNE stuff accounted for a good proportion of everything that was there, which was disappointing, as it was that the modern GNE stuff was parked up in glorious sunshine while most of the vintage stuff was parked back to the sun, so tricky to get decent photos.  Obviously this may have been different at other times in the day though I was there for a good chunk of it and this was the case.

15/07/2018, 21:41 #8
Dan Site Administrator
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The organisers at NEBPT request that the event sponsors, Go North East, bring vehicles to support the event and to be used on shuttle services.

The event doesn't need to be re-named, promoted as something else, or anything like that. The arrogance and ignorance from some of the enthusiasts in the scene is what needs to change: these people need to accept that some enthusiasts (especially the younger ones) have more of an interest towards the current bus scene rather than preserved buses which are 20+ years before their time. We need to be accommodating of everyone.

If there is such an issue with the name of the event including the word "vintage" and modern vehicles from GNE attending, I hope we didn't have any preserved Olympians or B10BLEs in attendance today (I didn't attend so don't know, but we usually see a couple of these in the North East rallies now!) After all, generally speaking, something isn't deemed "vintage" until it is over 20 years old...

If the site is inappropriate for photos, I wonder if anyone has ever flagged this with the NEBPT? I'd be in favour of fewer smaller events if we could have larger events in a better location which is equally suited for photos as it is for buses going on a decent run out.

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15/07/2018, 21:59 #9
stagecoachbusdepot
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(15/07/2018, 21:41)Dan Wrote:  The organisers at NEBPT request that the event sponsors, Go North East, bring vehicles to support the event and to be used on shuttle services.

The event doesn't need to be re-named, promoted as something else, or anything like that. The arrogance and ignorance from some of the enthusiasts in the scene is what needs to change: these people need to accept that some enthusiasts (especially the younger ones) have more of an interest towards the current bus scene rather than preserved buses which are 20+ years before their time. We need to be accommodating of everyone.

If there is such an issue with the name of the event including the word "vintage" and modern vehicles from GNE attending, I hope we didn't have any preserved Olympians or B10BLEs in attendance today (I didn't attend so don't know, but we usually see a couple of these in the North East rallies now!) After all, generally speaking, something isn't deemed "vintage" until it is over 20 years old...

If the site is inappropriate for photos, I wonder if anyone has ever flagged this with the NEBPT? I'd be in favour of fewer smaller events if we could have larger events in a better location which is equally suited for photos as it is for buses going on a decent run out.

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You don’t see the disconnect between promoting something as a vintage bus rally and filing it with examples from the current bus scene? 

Also, don’t think there’s any need for sniping at those who have a different opinion to you, it’s not necessarily arrogance or ignorance, perhaps just an alternative perspective...

15/07/2018, 22:10 #10
Dan Site Administrator
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After comments I've seen on Social Media and personal attacks I've heard stories of against drivers who volunteered their time to take buses to the event today, I don't think this can be classed as a "difference of opinion" or an "alternative perspective". This seems to happen every single time now and I for one am growing tired of it.

Regardless of your opinion on whether more modern vehicles should attend rallies to accommodate younger enthusiasts, I would hope you'd agree that anyone not interested in the more modern vehicles should simply ignore them and pay attention to the preserved vehicles on display, rather than make comments about folk who are just trying to achieve the same goal as those bringing vintage vehicles...

It's so frustrating as I attend a large number of rallies around the country, and there seems to be so little bitchiness and backstabbing elsewhere. No little cliques and everyone seems to have a good day, regardless of whether a brand new bus or a 100 year old bus is on show.

I've seen comments suggesting these preservationists should be shown some respect - it is earned not given, and is a two-way thing from both parties...

And for the avoidance of doubt, this isn't all of our local preservationists either. We have some cracking folk in the North East who do a great job and are happy for enthusiasts to appreciate buses new and old. Just a few who seem to let the side down...

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