Saltburn Circular
Saltburn Circular
(26 Feb 2024, 1:14 pm)Mike_98 Seems like they are testing out / planning out how they are going to serve some of new parts of the route which involves Easington and Loftus High Street. According to Bus Times, 26279 - SN69 ZHD went through Loftus High Street up to Eastington then south onto the A171 and then northwards to liverton then went on through to turn back around at the turning area just outside liverton mines before going back south again. Seems abit of madness route if that is the one they want to take.
I must add the road south of Easington (Grinkle Lane) is insanely bumpy and get smaller at certain points. Is quite scenic though.
(26 Feb 2024, 1:14 pm)Mike_98 Seems like they are testing out / planning out how they are going to serve some of new parts of the route which involves Easington and Loftus High Street. According to Bus Times, 26279 - SN69 ZHD went through Loftus High Street up to Eastington then south onto the A171 and then northwards to liverton then went on through to turn back around at the turning area just outside liverton mines before going back south again. Seems abit of madness route if that is the one they want to take.
I must add the road south of Easington (Grinkle Lane) is insanely bumpy and get smaller at certain points. Is quite scenic though.
(26 Feb 2024, 1:21 pm)Kuyoyo It looks like they are operating a diversion due to roadworks in Liverton Mines - if you look at one of the buses on the 5, the journeys which would normally serve Liverton Mines aren't in either direction.
(26 Feb 2024, 1:21 pm)Kuyoyo It looks like they are operating a diversion due to roadworks in Liverton Mines - if you look at one of the buses on the 5, the journeys which would normally serve Liverton Mines aren't in either direction.
(26 Feb 2024, 1:24 pm)Mike_98 Ohh yeh true. Didn't think about checking the 5's. Didn't know there was roadworks going on there though. I know theres some in Loftus. I wouldn't imagine they would take Grinkle Lane though. I imagine they will terminate at Easington then head back through loftus westwards when the new timetable comes into effect.
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(26 Feb 2024, 1:24 pm)Mike_98 Ohh yeh true. Didn't think about checking the 5's. Didn't know there was roadworks going on there though. I know theres some in Loftus. I wouldn't imagine they would take Grinkle Lane though. I imagine they will terminate at Easington then head back through loftus westwards when the new timetable comes into effect.
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Has the revised route for the 1 and 2 been published yet? Or do we know when it will be?
(29 Feb 2024, 10:06 am)Michael Euston Has the revised route for the 1 and 2 been published yet? Or do we know when it will be?
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(29 Feb 2024, 10:06 am)Michael Euston Has the revised route for the 1 and 2 been published yet? Or do we know when it will be?
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I might be missing something but that must be the most confusing numbering of any route in the country.
Theyre clearly two different routes with absolutely no form of loop at all, just renumber the blue one a number and renumber the red one a number.
Not to mention I really don't understand the point of the red route at all. It's literally the 5 or X4 give or take.
(12 Mar 2024, 10:13 pm)Storx I might be missing something but that must be the most confusing numbering of any route in the country.
Theyre clearly two different routes with absolutely no form of loop at all, just renumber the blue one a number and renumber the red one a number.
Not to mention I really don't understand the point of the red route at all. It's literally the 5 or X4 give or take.
(12 Mar 2024, 10:13 pm)Storx I might be missing something but that must be the most confusing numbering of any route in the country.
Theyre clearly two different routes with absolutely no form of loop at all, just renumber the blue one a number and renumber the red one a number.
Not to mention I really don't understand the point of the red route at all. It's literally the 5 or X4 give or take.
(13 Mar 2024, 7:41 am)RobinHood It's a final throw of the dice to make it actually worthwhile even supporting, essentially poaching further from the commercial network (namely Skelton to Saltburn movements, which were previously omitted to avoid abstraction from the X3 primarily). Current demand is not even worth the public funds being used, Cllrs were made aware of that, so this really is last resort stuff from their end to try and increase the demand to justify retention.
It's either this, or Teesflex. Not both.
(13 Mar 2024, 7:41 am)RobinHood It's a final throw of the dice to make it actually worthwhile even supporting, essentially poaching further from the commercial network (namely Skelton to Saltburn movements, which were previously omitted to avoid abstraction from the X3 primarily). Current demand is not even worth the public funds being used, Cllrs were made aware of that, so this really is last resort stuff from their end to try and increase the demand to justify retention.
It's either this, or Teesflex. Not both.
If these new routes are correct, then you may aswell have the X3 go from Lingdale , Boosbeck, Skelton Green, Then to the Skelton Library and straight down to Ullswater and Rydal Road. Then again people from Boosbeck and Lingdale use Hillside Practice. I do think however the X3 shouldn't have to serve Saltburn, Wheatlands Farm and Ings Farm. It should go straight from Skelton to Marske then along the coast road (Like it used to). Theres no point of calling it the 'X3' because its far from a quick service. Also, the 62 was great the way it was before it was cut shorter. Hopefully with these new Stagecoach changes, Arriva may get their act together and change their routes to make it more convenient to the passenger.
(13 Mar 2024, 1:03 pm)Mike_98 If these new routes are correct, then you may aswell have the X3 go from Lingdale , Boosbeck, Skelton Green, Then to the Skelton Library and straight down to Ullswater and Rydal Road. Then again people from Boosbeck and Lingdale use Hillside Practice. I do think however the X3 shouldn't have to serve Saltburn, Wheatlands Farm and Ings Farm. It should go straight from Skelton to Marske then along the coast road (Like it used to). Theres no point of calling it the 'X3' because its far from a quick service. Also, the 62 was great the way it was before it was cut shorter. Hopefully with these new Stagecoach changes, Arriva may get their act together and change their routes to make it more convenient to the passenger.
(13 Mar 2024, 1:03 pm)Mike_98 If these new routes are correct, then you may aswell have the X3 go from Lingdale , Boosbeck, Skelton Green, Then to the Skelton Library and straight down to Ullswater and Rydal Road. Then again people from Boosbeck and Lingdale use Hillside Practice. I do think however the X3 shouldn't have to serve Saltburn, Wheatlands Farm and Ings Farm. It should go straight from Skelton to Marske then along the coast road (Like it used to). Theres no point of calling it the 'X3' because its far from a quick service. Also, the 62 was great the way it was before it was cut shorter. Hopefully with these new Stagecoach changes, Arriva may get their act together and change their routes to make it more convenient to the passenger.
(17 Mar 2024, 12:37 pm)Ryland In theory scrap the 1 and 2.
62 back to new Marske . Reducing to an hour on an evening and Sunday
X3 to serve boosebeck and lingdale avoiding Saltburn. But serve Redcar east estate like the 81 does.
81 to revert back to Redcar to Stokesley. Utilising the bus stop they put in at Redcar outside Cooplands.
X2 to serve Ings Farm, Marske Estate and Saltburn to Skelton Asda.
Tees Flex to work as needed.
(17 Mar 2024, 12:37 pm)Ryland In theory scrap the 1 and 2.
62 back to new Marske . Reducing to an hour on an evening and Sunday
X3 to serve boosebeck and lingdale avoiding Saltburn. But serve Redcar east estate like the 81 does.
81 to revert back to Redcar to Stokesley. Utilising the bus stop they put in at Redcar outside Cooplands.
X2 to serve Ings Farm, Marske Estate and Saltburn to Skelton Asda.
Tees Flex to work as needed.
The 1 and 2 Changes start tomorrow
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:34:50:630
1 & 2 New Timetable - https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.ama...024Apr.pdf
(01 Apr 2024, 12:47 am)Mike_98 The 1 and 2 Changes start tomorrow
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:34:50:630
1 & 2 New Timetable - https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.ama...024Apr.pdf
(01 Apr 2024, 12:47 am)Mike_98 The 1 and 2 Changes start tomorrow
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:34:50:630
1 & 2 New Timetable - https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.ama...024Apr.pdf
(23 Feb 2024, 9:49 am)Storx I said it then and I'll say it now but this 1 and 2 are still completely ridiculous bus routes.
Teesside are supposedly in a partnership with operators, this is exactly where partnerships should be working instead of having alternative operators competing again commercial routes doing give or take the same route.
Who's at fault who knows but it shouldn't be here, something like upping the 5 back to every 15 minutes and running it as a 5B and both routes breaking off doing the loop omiting Saltburn at Lingdale just to pluck one idea is surely a better use of resources even if it uses more.
The 15/15/30 farce along Trunk Road and through Guisborough is a complete mess as it is aswell imo. I'm quite vocal about using public funds to boost frequent routes but I'd make an exception there as it just doesn't make sense as it is.
(23 Feb 2024, 9:49 am)Storx I said it then and I'll say it now but this 1 and 2 are still completely ridiculous bus routes.
Teesside are supposedly in a partnership with operators, this is exactly where partnerships should be working instead of having alternative operators competing again commercial routes doing give or take the same route.
Who's at fault who knows but it shouldn't be here, something like upping the 5 back to every 15 minutes and running it as a 5B and both routes breaking off doing the loop omiting Saltburn at Lingdale just to pluck one idea is surely a better use of resources even if it uses more.
The 15/15/30 farce along Trunk Road and through Guisborough is a complete mess as it is aswell imo. I'm quite vocal about using public funds to boost frequent routes but I'd make an exception there as it just doesn't make sense as it is.
(01 Apr 2024, 10:03 am)Storx They're like a parody these routes. There's some bonkers ideas by some on here but they'd make more sense than these.
- Confusing numbering that even I get confused by with a 'loop' that just doesn't exist in the slightest.
- Train connections which means you need to leg it to actually connect, 6 minutes is completely unreasonable.
- Too infrequent to be any real use to anyone.
- Duplicate commercial services so a waste of tax payers money.
- Special mention of councillors in the timetable in an area which is conveniently mostly currently Tory.
- The same special timetable which conveniently ends in July, just after the mayoral election when Houchen will be getting the boot.
If there's ever a reason why politicians shouldn't be anywhere near public transport then this is literally a prime example.
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(01 Apr 2024, 10:03 am)Storx They're like a parody these routes. There's some bonkers ideas by some on here but they'd make more sense than these.
- Confusing numbering that even I get confused by with a 'loop' that just doesn't exist in the slightest.
- Train connections which means you need to leg it to actually connect, 6 minutes is completely unreasonable.
- Too infrequent to be any real use to anyone.
- Duplicate commercial services so a waste of tax payers money.
- Special mention of councillors in the timetable in an area which is conveniently mostly currently Tory.
- The same special timetable which conveniently ends in July, just after the mayoral election when Houchen will be getting the boot.
If there's ever a reason why politicians shouldn't be anywhere near public transport then this is literally a prime example.
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(01 Apr 2024, 4:03 pm)tyresmoke It is literally councillors shouting the loudest and getting some funding to play with… it isn’t, and never will be, viable to run more than a minibus and given Flex is still around they’re competing for the same passengers.
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(01 Apr 2024, 4:03 pm)tyresmoke It is literally councillors shouting the loudest and getting some funding to play with… it isn’t, and never will be, viable to run more than a minibus and given Flex is still around they’re competing for the same passengers.
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(01 Apr 2024, 6:31 pm)Storx Yeah definitely, mind it would be interesting if a Labour councillor shouted as much, if anything got done. I know what answer I'd expect but yeah. It's bonkers these services when there's sizable village like Stillington with no timetabled bus service, at all, under the same area.
(01 Apr 2024, 6:31 pm)Storx Yeah definitely, mind it would be interesting if a Labour councillor shouted as much, if anything got done. I know what answer I'd expect but yeah. It's bonkers these services when there's sizable village like Stillington with no timetabled bus service, at all, under the same area.
(01 Apr 2024, 6:31 pm)Storx Yeah definitely, mind it would be interesting if a Labour councillor shouted as much, if anything got done. I know what answer I'd expect but yeah. It's bonkers these services when there's sizable village like Stillington with no timetabled bus service, at all, under the same area.
(01 Apr 2024, 6:31 pm)Storx Yeah definitely, mind it would be interesting if a Labour councillor shouted as much, if anything got done. I know what answer I'd expect but yeah. It's bonkers these services when there's sizable village like Stillington with no timetabled bus service, at all, under the same area.
(01 Apr 2024, 9:43 pm)col87 Not sure how big Stillington but you can count Dalton Piecy which has no service at all and it’s a good 15 - 20 minutes walk at least to get from the far end of Greatham to the 36 bus stop.
Actually I think Hartlepool is the only town in the Tees Valley with not a single bus service to the town’s main park as no bus service goes to Ward Jackson Park.
(01 Apr 2024, 9:43 pm)col87 Not sure how big Stillington but you can count Dalton Piecy which has no service at all and it’s a good 15 - 20 minutes walk at least to get from the far end of Greatham to the 36 bus stop.
Actually I think Hartlepool is the only town in the Tees Valley with not a single bus service to the town’s main park as no bus service goes to Ward Jackson Park.
(02 Apr 2024, 12:48 pm)Storx Like 750 people Stillington I believe with Rickleton etc you'll be looking at easily over a 1k people. Not massive amounts of course but arguable enough for a bus service.
Hartlepool is a poor places for buses I'm really surprised there's not a subsidised service that does something like
Headlands - West View - Hartlepool Hospital - High Thropston - West Park - Ward Jackson Park - Grange Road - Hartlepool Town Centre
Would open up hospital links and open up the West Park area with a bus service at all, the service at that side of Hartlepool is appalling as an understatement.
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(02 Apr 2024, 12:48 pm)Storx Like 750 people Stillington I believe with Rickleton etc you'll be looking at easily over a 1k people. Not massive amounts of course but arguable enough for a bus service.
Hartlepool is a poor places for buses I'm really surprised there's not a subsidised service that does something like
Headlands - West View - Hartlepool Hospital - High Thropston - West Park - Ward Jackson Park - Grange Road - Hartlepool Town Centre
Would open up hospital links and open up the West Park area with a bus service at all, the service at that side of Hartlepool is appalling as an understatement.
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