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Tom



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09 Nov 2012, 6:23 pm #1
Please post any Tyne and Wear Metro info here.
Edited 17 Dec 2014, 5:13 pm by Tom.
Tom
09 Nov 2012, 6:23 pm #1

Please post any Tyne and Wear Metro info here.

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11 Nov 2012, 6:20 pm #2
It was mentioned in another thread about the Sunderland line - there's more info about it here -

http://web.archive.org/web/200012050001/...sintro.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/2001082002515...sroute.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/2001080907355...nsion.html

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271815/...ervice.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271334/...enefit.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271434/...sconst.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271501/...d/senv.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271411/.../schal.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/2002020721310.../smfaq.htm

I've checked all the links - they should automatically re-direct.





A blog mostly on the progress of the new Sunderland extension - http://www.lrta.org/tynewear.html





Someone has uploaded a video of the entire run from South Hylton to Airport! I've just watched until Pallion, I see enough of the route every weekday as it is! Smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Px8llZWTIs (trainbrainboy)





This is also a great site with information on the Metro - http://www.thetrams.co.uk/tyneandwear/





30 years of the Tyne and Wear Metro (BBC) - http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/tyne/hi/peop...897970.stm
NEB Admin Team
11 Nov 2012, 6:20 pm #2

It was mentioned in another thread about the Sunderland line - there's more info about it here -

http://web.archive.org/web/200012050001/...sintro.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/2001082002515...sroute.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/2001080907355...nsion.html

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271815/...ervice.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271334/...enefit.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271434/...sconst.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271501/...d/senv.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271411/.../schal.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/2002020721310.../smfaq.htm

I've checked all the links - they should automatically re-direct.





A blog mostly on the progress of the new Sunderland extension - http://www.lrta.org/tynewear.html





Someone has uploaded a video of the entire run from South Hylton to Airport! I've just watched until Pallion, I see enough of the route every weekday as it is! Smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Px8llZWTIs (trainbrainboy)





This is also a great site with information on the Metro - http://www.thetrams.co.uk/tyneandwear/





30 years of the Tyne and Wear Metro (BBC) - http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/tyne/hi/peop...897970.stm

Michael



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11 Nov 2012, 7:49 pm #3
(11 Nov 2012, 6:20 pm)Brandon It was mentioned in another thread about the Sunderland line - there's more info about it here -

http://web.archive.org/web/200012050001/...sintro.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/2001082002515...sroute.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/2001080907355...nsion.html

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271815/...ervice.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271334/...enefit.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271434/...sconst.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271501/...d/senv.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271411/.../schal.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/2002020721310.../smfaq.htm

I've checked all the links - they should automatically re-direct.





A blog mostly on the progress of the new Sunderland extension - http://www.lrta.org/tynewear.html





Someone has uploaded a video of the entire run from South Hylton to Airport! I've just watched until Pallion, I see enough of the route every weekday as it is! Smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Px8llZWTIs (trainbrainboy)





This is also a great site with information on the Metro - http://www.thetrams.co.uk/tyneandwear/





30 years of the Tyne and Wear Metro (BBC) - http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/tyne/hi/peop...897970.stm

Thanks, =D

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
11 Nov 2012, 7:49 pm #3

(11 Nov 2012, 6:20 pm)Brandon It was mentioned in another thread about the Sunderland line - there's more info about it here -

http://web.archive.org/web/200012050001/...sintro.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/2001082002515...sroute.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/2001080907355...nsion.html

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271815/...ervice.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271334/...enefit.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271434/...sconst.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271501/...d/senv.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200101271411/.../schal.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/2002020721310.../smfaq.htm

I've checked all the links - they should automatically re-direct.





A blog mostly on the progress of the new Sunderland extension - http://www.lrta.org/tynewear.html





Someone has uploaded a video of the entire run from South Hylton to Airport! I've just watched until Pallion, I see enough of the route every weekday as it is! Smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Px8llZWTIs (trainbrainboy)





This is also a great site with information on the Metro - http://www.thetrams.co.uk/tyneandwear/





30 years of the Tyne and Wear Metro (BBC) - http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/tyne/hi/peop...897970.stm

Thanks, =D


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

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16 Dec 2012, 5:09 pm #4
A few days ago I started to compile the Metro timetable into a bus timetable format. I don't find the Nexus version easy to use, especially when timing for a bus service at the other end. I have most of the Saturday timetable complete, and have touched on the Monday-Friday and Sunday timetable. I'm hoping to include the Northern rail service between Sunderland, Heworth and Newcastle Central too. I'm not doing it all in one go because it's a bit much, but I'm hoping to be able to upload it by the end of next weekend, by just doing a little bit at a time when I get a free moment. It will be in Excel format for easy customisation Smile
NEB Admin Team
16 Dec 2012, 5:09 pm #4

A few days ago I started to compile the Metro timetable into a bus timetable format. I don't find the Nexus version easy to use, especially when timing for a bus service at the other end. I have most of the Saturday timetable complete, and have touched on the Monday-Friday and Sunday timetable. I'm hoping to include the Northern rail service between Sunderland, Heworth and Newcastle Central too. I'm not doing it all in one go because it's a bit much, but I'm hoping to be able to upload it by the end of next weekend, by just doing a little bit at a time when I get a free moment. It will be in Excel format for easy customisation Smile

Dan

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16 Dec 2012, 5:32 pm #5
(16 Dec 2012, 5:09 pm)Brandon A few days ago I started to compile the Metro timetable into a bus timetable format. I don't find the Nexus version easy to use, especially when timing for a bus service at the other end. I have most of the Saturday timetable complete, and have touched on the Monday-Friday and Sunday timetable. I'm hoping to include the Northern rail service between Sunderland, Heworth and Newcastle Central too. I'm not doing it all in one go because it's a bit much, but I'm hoping to be able to upload it by the end of next weekend, by just doing a little bit at a time when I get a free moment. It will be in Excel format for easy customisation Smile

Great! I have always wanted something like that for my phone. I have all bus timetables saved on my phone but I'd be grudged putting an "every platform" kind of timetable on my phone. :L
Thanks a lot in advance, can't wait to see the result.



On another note...

Metro:

There are no Metro services in operation on Christmas Day, Tuesday 25 December, and on New Year’s Day, Tuesday 1 January.

On Christmas Eve, Monday 24 December, there will be additional Metro services until about 6pm and then a reduced frequency until 11.15pm, when the last services depart from Monument. From 6pm the trains will be half hourly through Newcastle city centre (South Gosforth – Pelaw) and hourly in all other areas.

Boxing Day, Wednesday 26 December, will see Metro services commence from around 9am. A Sunday timetable will be in operation and depending on which station you are travelling from and to, will run until about 5.30pm/7.30pm.

From Thursday 27 January to Sunday 30 December, additional Metro trains will be in operation. See the online journey planner for details.
New Year’s Eve, Monday 31 December, will see additional trains until about 6pm, then every 30 mins (15 mins through Newcastle city centre) until about 11.15pm, when the last Metro services will leave Monument.
Dan
16 Dec 2012, 5:32 pm #5

(16 Dec 2012, 5:09 pm)Brandon A few days ago I started to compile the Metro timetable into a bus timetable format. I don't find the Nexus version easy to use, especially when timing for a bus service at the other end. I have most of the Saturday timetable complete, and have touched on the Monday-Friday and Sunday timetable. I'm hoping to include the Northern rail service between Sunderland, Heworth and Newcastle Central too. I'm not doing it all in one go because it's a bit much, but I'm hoping to be able to upload it by the end of next weekend, by just doing a little bit at a time when I get a free moment. It will be in Excel format for easy customisation Smile

Great! I have always wanted something like that for my phone. I have all bus timetables saved on my phone but I'd be grudged putting an "every platform" kind of timetable on my phone. :L
Thanks a lot in advance, can't wait to see the result.



On another note...

Metro:

There are no Metro services in operation on Christmas Day, Tuesday 25 December, and on New Year’s Day, Tuesday 1 January.

On Christmas Eve, Monday 24 December, there will be additional Metro services until about 6pm and then a reduced frequency until 11.15pm, when the last services depart from Monument. From 6pm the trains will be half hourly through Newcastle city centre (South Gosforth – Pelaw) and hourly in all other areas.

Boxing Day, Wednesday 26 December, will see Metro services commence from around 9am. A Sunday timetable will be in operation and depending on which station you are travelling from and to, will run until about 5.30pm/7.30pm.

From Thursday 27 January to Sunday 30 December, additional Metro trains will be in operation. See the online journey planner for details.
New Year’s Eve, Monday 31 December, will see additional trains until about 6pm, then every 30 mins (15 mins through Newcastle city centre) until about 11.15pm, when the last Metro services will leave Monument.

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17 Dec 2012, 11:19 pm #6
I've just completed the Saturday timetable in the South Hylton/South Shields - Airport/St James direction only. I've done bits from the rest of the timetable, but I've hurried to finish this section to see if it would upload on the site ok. I can't guarantee any of the times on here, I haven't double checked them yet. This timetable won't be in operation yet anyway until after the festive timetable has finished. I'll try to have the rest of it finished by the end of the week.

Something interesting is that some trains are timed to leave stations on the half minute, so that is why there can be a one minute discrepancy between trains where the timetable has been rounded down to the previous minute. I have a copy of this timetable but it's well out of date and I can no longer tell which stations certain trains are timed to depart from on the half minute, so I have just used the published timetables by Nexus and Traveline. 

For simplicity I have only included the Northern Rail section between Sunderland and Newcastle. It's in Excel format so it's easy for people to insert extra rows if they want a more complete timetable.

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NEB Admin Team
17 Dec 2012, 11:19 pm #6

I've just completed the Saturday timetable in the South Hylton/South Shields - Airport/St James direction only. I've done bits from the rest of the timetable, but I've hurried to finish this section to see if it would upload on the site ok. I can't guarantee any of the times on here, I haven't double checked them yet. This timetable won't be in operation yet anyway until after the festive timetable has finished. I'll try to have the rest of it finished by the end of the week.

Something interesting is that some trains are timed to leave stations on the half minute, so that is why there can be a one minute discrepancy between trains where the timetable has been rounded down to the previous minute. I have a copy of this timetable but it's well out of date and I can no longer tell which stations certain trains are timed to depart from on the half minute, so I have just used the published timetables by Nexus and Traveline. 

For simplicity I have only included the Northern Rail section between Sunderland and Newcastle. It's in Excel format so it's easy for people to insert extra rows if they want a more complete timetable.

[attachment=1263]

Dan

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18 Dec 2012, 9:24 am #7
(17 Dec 2012, 11:19 pm)Brandon I've just completed the Saturday timetable in the South Hylton/South Shields - Airport/St James direction only. I've done bits from the rest of the timetable, but I've hurried to finish this section to see if it would upload on the site ok. I can't guarantee any of the times on here, I haven't double checked them yet. This timetable won't be in operation yet anyway until after the festive timetable has finished. I'll try to have the rest of it finished by the end of the week.

Something interesting is that some trains are timed to leave stations on the half minute, so that is why there can be a one minute discrepancy between trains where the timetable has been rounded down to the previous minute. I have a copy of this timetable but it's well out of date and I can no longer tell which stations certain trains are timed to depart from on the half minute, so I have just used the published timetables by Nexus and Traveline. 

For simplicity I have only included the Northern Rail section between Sunderland and Newcastle. It's in Excel format so it's easy for people to insert extra rows if they want a more complete timetable.

Brilliant, Brandon; thanks a bunch for this. I think I'm going to have to leave it in Excel format when I transfer it to my phone - I don't think it'll come out oh too well in .PDF format because it's just so large!
Can't wait for the rest. Thanks once again - perhaps I can now win some arguments with my mum when she insists x metro gets back for 25 minutes past the hour and not 30 minutes past the hour and we can still catch a bus! :L
Dan
18 Dec 2012, 9:24 am #7

(17 Dec 2012, 11:19 pm)Brandon I've just completed the Saturday timetable in the South Hylton/South Shields - Airport/St James direction only. I've done bits from the rest of the timetable, but I've hurried to finish this section to see if it would upload on the site ok. I can't guarantee any of the times on here, I haven't double checked them yet. This timetable won't be in operation yet anyway until after the festive timetable has finished. I'll try to have the rest of it finished by the end of the week.

Something interesting is that some trains are timed to leave stations on the half minute, so that is why there can be a one minute discrepancy between trains where the timetable has been rounded down to the previous minute. I have a copy of this timetable but it's well out of date and I can no longer tell which stations certain trains are timed to depart from on the half minute, so I have just used the published timetables by Nexus and Traveline. 

For simplicity I have only included the Northern Rail section between Sunderland and Newcastle. It's in Excel format so it's easy for people to insert extra rows if they want a more complete timetable.

Brilliant, Brandon; thanks a bunch for this. I think I'm going to have to leave it in Excel format when I transfer it to my phone - I don't think it'll come out oh too well in .PDF format because it's just so large!
Can't wait for the rest. Thanks once again - perhaps I can now win some arguments with my mum when she insists x metro gets back for 25 minutes past the hour and not 30 minutes past the hour and we can still catch a bus! :L

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22 Dec 2012, 10:52 pm #8
No probs! On my way back home from work, I'd be worrying the whole way back on the metro if I would get into Seaburn in time to catch the 99. Just lately though I've been getting the Northern Rail 16:30 Nunthorpe train back to Sunderland which I can get a seat on! and also there's more choice of buses from the town to back home which is better than waiting for a late or no-show 99.

If you think that timetable is large, wait till you see the Monday-Friday timetable, absolutely ridiculous! It could be made shorter by putting the minutes past each hour during the middle of the day, but it would still be pretty huge. Unfortunately it's taking a bit longer than I had anticipated to finish. It's definitely a priority for me to do though. I had been hoping to be finished this weekend. I'll be close to it, but I'll only be uploading after Christmas now. I had been using the "all stops" function on Traveline, but there's a discrepancy of 1-2 minutes between this and the Nexus timetable on the Coast Line and in the central area at certain times which I'm having to correct. I think I'll flag this with Nexus in the new year.
NEB Admin Team
22 Dec 2012, 10:52 pm #8

No probs! On my way back home from work, I'd be worrying the whole way back on the metro if I would get into Seaburn in time to catch the 99. Just lately though I've been getting the Northern Rail 16:30 Nunthorpe train back to Sunderland which I can get a seat on! and also there's more choice of buses from the town to back home which is better than waiting for a late or no-show 99.

If you think that timetable is large, wait till you see the Monday-Friday timetable, absolutely ridiculous! It could be made shorter by putting the minutes past each hour during the middle of the day, but it would still be pretty huge. Unfortunately it's taking a bit longer than I had anticipated to finish. It's definitely a priority for me to do though. I had been hoping to be finished this weekend. I'll be close to it, but I'll only be uploading after Christmas now. I had been using the "all stops" function on Traveline, but there's a discrepancy of 1-2 minutes between this and the Nexus timetable on the Coast Line and in the central area at certain times which I'm having to correct. I think I'll flag this with Nexus in the new year.

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27 Dec 2012, 6:15 pm #9
Complete timetable will definitely be uploaded this weekend! I'm really sorry for the delay. The whole thing is almost complete now, but I'm just going back through correcting the small errors in the first 1/3 of the timetable I did when I used Traveline instead of the official Nexus timetables. The times only vary by up to 1-2 minutes but I'd rather match the Nexus timetables if I can.
NEB Admin Team
27 Dec 2012, 6:15 pm #9

Complete timetable will definitely be uploaded this weekend! I'm really sorry for the delay. The whole thing is almost complete now, but I'm just going back through correcting the small errors in the first 1/3 of the timetable I did when I used Traveline instead of the official Nexus timetables. The times only vary by up to 1-2 minutes but I'd rather match the Nexus timetables if I can.

cbma06



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28 Dec 2012, 6:49 pm #10
Found this on the internet while l was browsing:

Metro extensions proposal someone did

http://pauldurose.stsg.co.uk/Sky/Metro2.pdf

HST at Pelaw Junction, metro under construction:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/48...otostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/48...otostream/

old train from Sunderland to Newcastle:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77063039@N08/8080593538/

Gateshead old railway station entrance:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/35...otostream/

Old Manors Station after closure in 78

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/35...otostream/

Old Millfield railway station before knocked down by metro station:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/35...otostream/

HST at Penshaw:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/36...otostream/

Washington station 1976:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/3795276009/

Railway line map of Newcastle and Tyneside old railway map 1959:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/36844288@N00/4244605433/

South Shields old railway station:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswisse...492114635/

DMU at Sunderland:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/35...otostream/
Edited 28 Dec 2012, 7:41 pm by cbma06.


cbma06
28 Dec 2012, 6:49 pm #10

Found this on the internet while l was browsing:

Metro extensions proposal someone did

http://pauldurose.stsg.co.uk/Sky/Metro2.pdf


HST at Pelaw Junction, metro under construction:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/48...otostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/48...otostream/

old train from Sunderland to Newcastle:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77063039@N08/8080593538/

Gateshead old railway station entrance:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/35...otostream/

Old Manors Station after closure in 78

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/35...otostream/

Old Millfield railway station before knocked down by metro station:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/35...otostream/

HST at Penshaw:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/36...otostream/

Washington station 1976:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/3795276009/

Railway line map of Newcastle and Tyneside old railway map 1959:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/36844288@N00/4244605433/

South Shields old railway station:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswisse...492114635/

DMU at Sunderland:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/35...otostream/



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28 Dec 2012, 7:42 pm #11
Thanks for sharing! A brilliant map that is. I could imagine the metro system looking something like that someday, maybe in 40+ years! Tongue

The track infrastructure is already in place on the mainline from Newcastle to Palmersville, Northumberland Park and onwards towards Backworth and beyond, albeit single line after diverging from the ECML.

I think a route to Doxford International has also been under investigation, possibly along the alignment of Durham Road where the tram tracks once were. The line to Ryhope and Seaham already exists too, but there are fears that extending the metro along the Durham Coast will lead to further reduction in frequency in the Northern Rail service. Nevertheless, I think there maybe something in the new Tees Valley Metro, would is planned to go as far north as Hartlepool, maybe this could merge with an extended Tyne and Wear Metro, completely replacing the need for the Northern Rail link. I think all this would be years and years down the line though if it ever happened.

I think the track on the Leamside line has or is being removed due to metal thefts, but apparently engineers at Network Rail have claimed that the track would have needed replacing anyway if the line ever re-opened. From what I've read in the local press, Durham County Council are really pushing for this line to be re-opened. Stations like Sherburn could even be re-opened -

Then http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/3610804093/ Pinzac55
Now http://www.flickr.com/photos/67570349@N02/8083447500/ Jamie M

It's a disgrace the line was closed, it would be perfect for easing pressure and increasing capacity on the ECML. Jamie M has a photo here in the final years - http://www.flickr.com/photos/67570349@N02/8229876419/ You can see the severed line to the right that went to South Hylton and Sunderland. I'd love to see trains crossing the stunning Victoria Bridge Viaduct over the River Wear at Sunderland in my lifetime - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/2818655764/ (pinzac55) On a related note, I think there's a line at Stillington that is being penned for re-opening, but I don't know too much about it.

I'm sure there actually used to be Red line at some time. I think it was the short peak-time only trips between Pelaw and Benton, which were replaced by extra journeys on Yellow line instead.

South Shields station looked magnificent! Big Grin

Bit of drama on the metro this morning. Cab door of 4060 fell off it's hinges, not the one the driver was in. We were all told to move to the rear car (4054) which ended up packed. Workmen began fixing the problem at South Gosforth, but I don't think the train was taken out of service, just one-car operational.
NEB Admin Team
28 Dec 2012, 7:42 pm #11

Thanks for sharing! A brilliant map that is. I could imagine the metro system looking something like that someday, maybe in 40+ years! Tongue

The track infrastructure is already in place on the mainline from Newcastle to Palmersville, Northumberland Park and onwards towards Backworth and beyond, albeit single line after diverging from the ECML.

I think a route to Doxford International has also been under investigation, possibly along the alignment of Durham Road where the tram tracks once were. The line to Ryhope and Seaham already exists too, but there are fears that extending the metro along the Durham Coast will lead to further reduction in frequency in the Northern Rail service. Nevertheless, I think there maybe something in the new Tees Valley Metro, would is planned to go as far north as Hartlepool, maybe this could merge with an extended Tyne and Wear Metro, completely replacing the need for the Northern Rail link. I think all this would be years and years down the line though if it ever happened.

I think the track on the Leamside line has or is being removed due to metal thefts, but apparently engineers at Network Rail have claimed that the track would have needed replacing anyway if the line ever re-opened. From what I've read in the local press, Durham County Council are really pushing for this line to be re-opened. Stations like Sherburn could even be re-opened -

Then http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/3610804093/ Pinzac55
Now http://www.flickr.com/photos/67570349@N02/8083447500/ Jamie M

It's a disgrace the line was closed, it would be perfect for easing pressure and increasing capacity on the ECML. Jamie M has a photo here in the final years - http://www.flickr.com/photos/67570349@N02/8229876419/ You can see the severed line to the right that went to South Hylton and Sunderland. I'd love to see trains crossing the stunning Victoria Bridge Viaduct over the River Wear at Sunderland in my lifetime - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/2818655764/ (pinzac55) On a related note, I think there's a line at Stillington that is being penned for re-opening, but I don't know too much about it.

I'm sure there actually used to be Red line at some time. I think it was the short peak-time only trips between Pelaw and Benton, which were replaced by extra journeys on Yellow line instead.

South Shields station looked magnificent! Big Grin

Bit of drama on the metro this morning. Cab door of 4060 fell off it's hinges, not the one the driver was in. We were all told to move to the rear car (4054) which ended up packed. Workmen began fixing the problem at South Gosforth, but I don't think the train was taken out of service, just one-car operational.

cbma06



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28 Dec 2012, 7:45 pm #12
old Ryhope station:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/35...otostream/

If the Metro went a little bit further it would of went to the old South Shields railway station, but there only wanted it to go to Keppel Street only, i think Nexus are planning to dual the line at South Shields metro station so there be platforms on each side (There should of started the metro from the old station really, unless BR wanted money for use of the station.

Leamside track couldnt be used as it would of been rusted and been moved out of place from all the weather as it wouldnt had any maintaince done to it.

If Nexus gets there way, there might open up the Sunderland to South shields line as there wouldnt have to pay for having the E1/E2/E6 and 35 and have the passengers using there metro system.

Pallion Station 1982:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/33...otostream/
Edited 28 Dec 2012, 8:18 pm by cbma06.


cbma06
28 Dec 2012, 7:45 pm #12

old Ryhope station:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/35...otostream/


If the Metro went a little bit further it would of went to the old South Shields railway station, but there only wanted it to go to Keppel Street only, i think Nexus are planning to dual the line at South Shields metro station so there be platforms on each side (There should of started the metro from the old station really, unless BR wanted money for use of the station.

Leamside track couldnt be used as it would of been rusted and been moved out of place from all the weather as it wouldnt had any maintaince done to it.

If Nexus gets there way, there might open up the Sunderland to South shields line as there wouldnt have to pay for having the E1/E2/E6 and 35 and have the passengers using there metro system.

Pallion Station 1982:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/33...otostream/



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28 Dec 2012, 9:15 pm #13
Ryhope East Station:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/3555184234/

There were 2 stations at Ryhope (Ryhope station and Ryhope East Station) because when the railway line came from Sunderland it splits up before Ryhope Station and one line went down towards Seaham as now, and the other line went over towards Seaton downwards towards Shotton etc...

and Ryhope Station with no trains going though:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/67570349@N0...otostream/

Dont know if foot bridge still there though

Anybody remember this at the end of Queen Alexandra Bridge:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/67570349@N0...otostream/
Edited 28 Dec 2012, 9:19 pm by cbma06.


cbma06
28 Dec 2012, 9:15 pm #13

Ryhope East Station:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/3555184234/

There were 2 stations at Ryhope (Ryhope station and Ryhope East Station) because when the railway line came from Sunderland it splits up before Ryhope Station and one line went down towards Seaham as now, and the other line went over towards Seaton downwards towards Shotton etc...


and Ryhope Station with no trains going though:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/67570349@N0...otostream/

Dont know if foot bridge still there though

Anybody remember this at the end of Queen Alexandra Bridge:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/67570349@N0...otostream/



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28 Dec 2012, 10:22 pm #14
I definitely remember, it's just down the road from mine! Apparently it's a listed structure together with the whole bridge, so will likely stay for a good while. I read somewhere that the remaining viaduct wouldn't be able to support the weight of any trains nowadays though if it was somehow brought back into use. I think the closest the Metro would ever take you to the Queen Alexandra Bridge would be a new station near Lisburn Terrace; it was once mooted in 2009 as a possible station if Sunderland Council's dreams of regenerating the area came to fruition. Unfortunately Nexus asked that the proposed new metro station be removed from the Development Framework, instead preferring improved pedestrian access to Millfield Station as an alternative.

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I don't have any recent news on this, but plans can change, especially now with the funding secured for the new bridge which will drive regeneration in this area.
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28 Dec 2012, 10:22 pm #14

I definitely remember, it's just down the road from mine! Apparently it's a listed structure together with the whole bridge, so will likely stay for a good while. I read somewhere that the remaining viaduct wouldn't be able to support the weight of any trains nowadays though if it was somehow brought back into use. I think the closest the Metro would ever take you to the Queen Alexandra Bridge would be a new station near Lisburn Terrace; it was once mooted in 2009 as a possible station if Sunderland Council's dreams of regenerating the area came to fruition. Unfortunately Nexus asked that the proposed new metro station be removed from the Development Framework, instead preferring improved pedestrian access to Millfield Station as an alternative.

[attachment=1269]

I don't have any recent news on this, but plans can change, especially now with the funding secured for the new bridge which will drive regeneration in this area.

cbma06



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28 Dec 2012, 10:24 pm #15
Prototype Tyne & Wear Metrocar at the Test Track after delivery:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55727763@N0...otostream/


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28 Dec 2012, 10:24 pm #15

Prototype Tyne & Wear Metrocar at the Test Track after delivery:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55727763@N0...otostream/



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28 Dec 2012, 10:25 pm #16
(28 Dec 2012, 10:24 pm)cbma06 Prototype Tyne & Wear Metrocar at the Test Track after delivery:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55727763@N0...otostream/

Was it just the prototype that had the opening front doors?
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28 Dec 2012, 10:25 pm #16

(28 Dec 2012, 10:24 pm)cbma06 Prototype Tyne & Wear Metrocar at the Test Track after delivery:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55727763@N0...otostream/

Was it just the prototype that had the opening front doors?

cbma06



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28 Dec 2012, 10:29 pm #17
Tynemouth station in the throes of rebuilding for the Metro 19/6/80

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55727763@N0...953380992/

(28 Dec 2012, 10:25 pm)Brandon
(28 Dec 2012, 10:24 pm)cbma06 Prototype Tyne & Wear Metrocar at the Test Track after delivery:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55727763@N0...otostream/

Was it just the prototype that had the opening front doors?

Most of been.
Edited 28 Dec 2012, 10:30 pm by cbma06.


cbma06
28 Dec 2012, 10:29 pm #17

Tynemouth station in the throes of rebuilding for the Metro 19/6/80

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55727763@N0...953380992/


(28 Dec 2012, 10:25 pm)Brandon
(28 Dec 2012, 10:24 pm)cbma06 Prototype Tyne & Wear Metrocar at the Test Track after delivery:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55727763@N0...otostream/

Was it just the prototype that had the opening front doors?

Most of been.



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29 Dec 2012, 3:22 pm #18
This research paper is in the public domain and was free to download. All credit to Gleb K. Samoliv who has compiled this piece of work and published in 2012.

The Book discussed issues of improving of the North-East England Public Transport network accessibility, by developing the network of the Tyne and Wear Metro. Based on the review of different concepts for passenger transport in the Region, put forward in the second half of the XX – early XXI century, analyzes the opportunities and shows how best to transform the existing Local Tyne and Wear Metro network in developed Regional network of the NORTHUMBERLAND – TYNE and WEAR – DURHAM METRO. Step-wise Radial-Ring system is the basis of off-street transportation integration of Public and Private Transport different types. This allows us to solve a significant amount of Traffic, Socio-Economic and Environmental problems in the Region. The list of references includes 468 titles; in going through the text illustrations are copyright 82 Author’s drawings. The Book is intended for professionals in the field of Public Transport, Urban Planning and Environmental Protection.

I've just had a quick skim through, and it's absolutely brilliant. He's gone away and analysed a lot of sources and put together this 257 page document. I think he must be a Phd student or something. Inside is the history of the Tyne and Wear Metro, a bit about the now defunct Project Orpheus, and his own ideas for the future. It's well worth a read. I don't think I'll ever see any of the networks he has envisioned in my lifetime, but they're still nice ideas.

You shouldn't have to register to docstoc, you should be able to scroll through the document in the window pane without needing to download it. Registering is best to see the maps in closer detail though, I think you only need an email address or a Facebook account to register. I'd upload the PDF direct to this site but at 257 pages it's far too big!

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/127409865/TH...-KSamoilov

He has a good list of references at the end of his paper, I'll get around to uploading some of these citations to the site once I've finished the metro timetable, which should be tonight I'm hoping.
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29 Dec 2012, 3:22 pm #18

This research paper is in the public domain and was free to download. All credit to Gleb K. Samoliv who has compiled this piece of work and published in 2012.

The Book discussed issues of improving of the North-East England Public Transport network accessibility, by developing the network of the Tyne and Wear Metro. Based on the review of different concepts for passenger transport in the Region, put forward in the second half of the XX – early XXI century, analyzes the opportunities and shows how best to transform the existing Local Tyne and Wear Metro network in developed Regional network of the NORTHUMBERLAND – TYNE and WEAR – DURHAM METRO. Step-wise Radial-Ring system is the basis of off-street transportation integration of Public and Private Transport different types. This allows us to solve a significant amount of Traffic, Socio-Economic and Environmental problems in the Region. The list of references includes 468 titles; in going through the text illustrations are copyright 82 Author’s drawings. The Book is intended for professionals in the field of Public Transport, Urban Planning and Environmental Protection.

I've just had a quick skim through, and it's absolutely brilliant. He's gone away and analysed a lot of sources and put together this 257 page document. I think he must be a Phd student or something. Inside is the history of the Tyne and Wear Metro, a bit about the now defunct Project Orpheus, and his own ideas for the future. It's well worth a read. I don't think I'll ever see any of the networks he has envisioned in my lifetime, but they're still nice ideas.

You shouldn't have to register to docstoc, you should be able to scroll through the document in the window pane without needing to download it. Registering is best to see the maps in closer detail though, I think you only need an email address or a Facebook account to register. I'd upload the PDF direct to this site but at 257 pages it's far too big!

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/127409865/TH...-KSamoilov

He has a good list of references at the end of his paper, I'll get around to uploading some of these citations to the site once I've finished the metro timetable, which should be tonight I'm hoping.

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29 Dec 2012, 9:26 pm #20
Thanks for sharing! I'd much rather that viaduct was still in place at the southern end of the bridge instead of that ghastly roundabout. That gyratory system looked like it could have handled traffic much better than the roundabout does today. I read recently on the Skyscraper City Forums I think it was, that traffic on the Queen Alexandra Bridge is expected to reduce by as much as 42% once the new bridge is opened. That should help traffic congestion tremendously.

Back to Metro, the timetable is completely finished now, I've also got the Northern Rail Newcastle-Heworth-Sunderland times in too. I had been considering putting in Dunston, MetroCentre and Blaydon too, but I don't want to make it look more complicated than it already is. If any members are interested in these times, then I'll put them in; but to be honest, it'll be easy enough for anyone to insert a couple of extra rows into the spreadsheet and insert as many or few extra stations as they please.

I'm not 100% convinced that the timetable is completely accurate yet, I'd like to be able to say for sure that every time at every station is correct. I'd be rather embarrassed to say the least if I find a mistake after I've uploaded it. I'll go through one last time tomorrow when I'm a bit more wide awake. Will definitely be uploading tomorrow though.
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29 Dec 2012, 9:26 pm #20

Thanks for sharing! I'd much rather that viaduct was still in place at the southern end of the bridge instead of that ghastly roundabout. That gyratory system looked like it could have handled traffic much better than the roundabout does today. I read recently on the Skyscraper City Forums I think it was, that traffic on the Queen Alexandra Bridge is expected to reduce by as much as 42% once the new bridge is opened. That should help traffic congestion tremendously.

Back to Metro, the timetable is completely finished now, I've also got the Northern Rail Newcastle-Heworth-Sunderland times in too. I had been considering putting in Dunston, MetroCentre and Blaydon too, but I don't want to make it look more complicated than it already is. If any members are interested in these times, then I'll put them in; but to be honest, it'll be easy enough for anyone to insert a couple of extra rows into the spreadsheet and insert as many or few extra stations as they please.

I'm not 100% convinced that the timetable is completely accurate yet, I'd like to be able to say for sure that every time at every station is correct. I'd be rather embarrassed to say the least if I find a mistake after I've uploaded it. I'll go through one last time tomorrow when I'm a bit more wide awake. Will definitely be uploading tomorrow though.

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