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18 Jun 2015, 7:24 pm #1,381
(18 Jun 2015, 6:15 pm)Malarkey Wonder how much it is costs to Refurbish one Metro Train, then the overall cost of Refurbishing all them is, compared to the cost of purchasing New Trains. 

It's all very well saying 'purchase new trains' but DB Regio has said it wants tram-like trains next. This in itself would require extensive overhaul of the whole system (including track and signalling) which could well be more expensive than the modernisation itself.

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18 Jun 2015, 7:24 pm #1,381

(18 Jun 2015, 6:15 pm)Malarkey Wonder how much it is costs to Refurbish one Metro Train, then the overall cost of Refurbishing all them is, compared to the cost of purchasing New Trains. 

It's all very well saying 'purchase new trains' but DB Regio has said it wants tram-like trains next. This in itself would require extensive overhaul of the whole system (including track and signalling) which could well be more expensive than the modernisation itself.


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18 Jun 2015, 8:07 pm #1,382
(18 Jun 2015, 7:24 pm)northern156 It's all very well saying 'purchase new trains' but DB Regio has said it wants tram-like trains next. This in itself would require extensive overhaul of the whole system (including track and signalling) which could well be more expensive than the modernisation itself.

So in short Millions is being wasted in Modernisation of the System, When in a few years there will be an extensive overhaul which again will cost Millions, seems DB Regio/Nexus are than capable of thinking logically, might as well stop wasting Millions and crack on with the extensive overhaul now.
Malarkey
18 Jun 2015, 8:07 pm #1,382

(18 Jun 2015, 7:24 pm)northern156 It's all very well saying 'purchase new trains' but DB Regio has said it wants tram-like trains next. This in itself would require extensive overhaul of the whole system (including track and signalling) which could well be more expensive than the modernisation itself.

So in short Millions is being wasted in Modernisation of the System, When in a few years there will be an extensive overhaul which again will cost Millions, seems DB Regio/Nexus are than capable of thinking logically, might as well stop wasting Millions and crack on with the extensive overhaul now.

Adrian



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18 Jun 2015, 9:13 pm #1,383
(18 Jun 2015, 7:24 pm)northern156 It's all very well saying 'purchase new trains' but DB Regio has said it wants tram-like trains next. This in itself would require extensive overhaul of the whole system (including track and signalling) which could well be more expensive than the modernisation itself.
(18 Jun 2015, 8:07 pm)Malarkey So in short Millions is being wasted in Modernisation of the System, When in a few years there will be an extensive overhaul which again will cost Millions, seems DB Regio/Nexus are than capable of thinking logically, might as well stop wasting Millions and crack on with the extensive overhaul now.

It's just another mooted option. DB Regio can have a preference, but ultimately it's Nexus (or the Combined Authority) who have to justify that their plans offer the best value for public money. Not to mention being robust enough to win funding from central Government... it's highly unlikely that local budgets are going to anywhere near enough to fund such plans alone.

It's probably a good time to note that Nissan is expanding it's Sunderland footprint again. The rate of expansion over the last 5 years tells me that the ability to transport by rail freight must be on their agenda. 

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Adrian
18 Jun 2015, 9:13 pm #1,383

(18 Jun 2015, 7:24 pm)northern156 It's all very well saying 'purchase new trains' but DB Regio has said it wants tram-like trains next. This in itself would require extensive overhaul of the whole system (including track and signalling) which could well be more expensive than the modernisation itself.
(18 Jun 2015, 8:07 pm)Malarkey So in short Millions is being wasted in Modernisation of the System, When in a few years there will be an extensive overhaul which again will cost Millions, seems DB Regio/Nexus are than capable of thinking logically, might as well stop wasting Millions and crack on with the extensive overhaul now.

It's just another mooted option. DB Regio can have a preference, but ultimately it's Nexus (or the Combined Authority) who have to justify that their plans offer the best value for public money. Not to mention being robust enough to win funding from central Government... it's highly unlikely that local budgets are going to anywhere near enough to fund such plans alone.

It's probably a good time to note that Nissan is expanding it's Sunderland footprint again. The rate of expansion over the last 5 years tells me that the ability to transport by rail freight must be on their agenda. 


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19 Jun 2015, 5:38 am #1,384
4002 is out and about today - heading to South Hylton from Stadium of Light at 0638.
Dan
19 Jun 2015, 5:38 am #1,384

4002 is out and about today - heading to South Hylton from Stadium of Light at 0638.

19 Jun 2015, 10:12 am #1,385
(19 Jun 2015, 5:38 am)Dan 4002 is out and about today - heading to South Hylton from Stadium of Light at 0638.

Train 102.
omnicity4659
19 Jun 2015, 10:12 am #1,385

(19 Jun 2015, 5:38 am)Dan 4002 is out and about today - heading to South Hylton from Stadium of Light at 0638.

Train 102.

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19 Jun 2015, 4:28 pm #1,386
(18 Jun 2015, 5:50 pm)Michael Nexus to invest £40m in Metro modernisation over the next 12 months

Main works include:

The modernisation will include:

• The completed refurbishment of the Metro train fleet
Track replacement on the QEII Bridge across the river Tyne and between Tynemouth and Northumberland Park stations
• A new Rail Traffic Management System (RTMS) in the Metro Control Room
• The modernisation of Central Station’s Metro ticket hall and platforms
• Station modernisation work at Heworth, Felling and Gateshead Stadium
• A new digital radio system for the Metro train fleet
• A key track junction replaced at Regent Centre

The work forms part of the £389m Metro: all change modernisation programme, a Government-funded scheme to modernise the Tyne and Wear Metro which began in 2010.

At the very bottom:

Nexus is planning further redevelopment work at Sunderland Station, working in partnership with Sunderland Council and Network Rail. These works will complement the improvements made to the sub-surface station in 2010.

http://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/nexus-...-12-months

Guess I've got some route learning to do then... Any idea when this is planned for? Think I heard 2016

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19 Jun 2015, 4:28 pm #1,386

(18 Jun 2015, 5:50 pm)Michael Nexus to invest £40m in Metro modernisation over the next 12 months

Main works include:

The modernisation will include:

• The completed refurbishment of the Metro train fleet
Track replacement on the QEII Bridge across the river Tyne and between Tynemouth and Northumberland Park stations
• A new Rail Traffic Management System (RTMS) in the Metro Control Room
• The modernisation of Central Station’s Metro ticket hall and platforms
• Station modernisation work at Heworth, Felling and Gateshead Stadium
• A new digital radio system for the Metro train fleet
• A key track junction replaced at Regent Centre

The work forms part of the £389m Metro: all change modernisation programme, a Government-funded scheme to modernise the Tyne and Wear Metro which began in 2010.

At the very bottom:

Nexus is planning further redevelopment work at Sunderland Station, working in partnership with Sunderland Council and Network Rail. These works will complement the improvements made to the sub-surface station in 2010.

http://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/nexus-...-12-months

Guess I've got some route learning to do then... Any idea when this is planned for? Think I heard 2016


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21 Jun 2015, 4:02 pm #1,387
An Essential New Metro Fleet.
http://imgur.com/a/8rPkC
Malarkey
21 Jun 2015, 4:02 pm #1,387

An Essential New Metro Fleet.
http://imgur.com/a/8rPkC

Andreos1



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21 Jun 2015, 10:17 pm #1,388
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-33199234

£40m to be invested in system.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
21 Jun 2015, 10:17 pm #1,388

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-33199234

£40m to be invested in system.


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S813 FVK



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21 Jun 2015, 10:19 pm #1,389
Posted in March 2014 but very interesting: 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-26737711
Edited 21 Jun 2015, 10:20 pm by S813 FVK.
S813 FVK
21 Jun 2015, 10:19 pm #1,389

Posted in March 2014 but very interesting: 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-26737711

Michael



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22 Jun 2015, 12:35 pm #1,390
Tyne and Wear Metro
15 mins ·
Byker is closed and trains will not be stopping at this station until further notice. This is due to a technical fault. We will update you once we have more information.

(21 Jun 2015, 10:19 pm)S813 FVK Posted in March 2014 but very interesting: 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-26737711

I hope it happens, would be good to extend the system to Washington 
Edited 22 Jun 2015, 12:36 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
22 Jun 2015, 12:35 pm #1,390

Tyne and Wear Metro
15 mins ·
Byker is closed and trains will not be stopping at this station until further notice. This is due to a technical fault. We will update you once we have more information.


(21 Jun 2015, 10:19 pm)S813 FVK Posted in March 2014 but very interesting: 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-26737711

I hope it happens, would be good to extend the system to Washington 


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22 Jun 2015, 3:23 pm #1,391
"ThSad Stadium" - for "The next station is Gateshead Stadium" scrolling message on 4057. Rearmost display on the 'A' side.
Dan
22 Jun 2015, 3:23 pm #1,391

"ThSad Stadium" - for "The next station is Gateshead Stadium" scrolling message on 4057. Rearmost display on the 'A' side.

Dan

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26 Jun 2015, 6:16 am #1,392
4039 - Destinations and Next Stop Announcements are not working.
Dan
26 Jun 2015, 6:16 am #1,392

4039 - Destinations and Next Stop Announcements are not working.

26 Jun 2015, 8:41 am #1,393
(26 Jun 2015, 6:16 am)Dan 4039 - Destinations and Next Stop Announcements are not working.

It is DB...

Could be showing 'Seacrest Road' all day, every day...
omnicity4659
26 Jun 2015, 8:41 am #1,393

(26 Jun 2015, 6:16 am)Dan 4039 - Destinations and Next Stop Announcements are not working.

It is DB...

Could be showing 'Seacrest Road' all day, every day...

26 Jun 2015, 9:41 am #1,394
4027 was seen yesterday on the western bypass being returned to N.Shields,  on a low loader of course, not in service  Big Grin
Coppercap40
26 Jun 2015, 9:41 am #1,394

4027 was seen yesterday on the western bypass being returned to N.Shields,  on a low loader of course, not in service  Big Grin

26 Jun 2015, 10:11 am #1,395
4083 has recieved new Emirates Airways adverts.
Edited 26 Jun 2015, 10:11 am by omnicity4659.
omnicity4659
26 Jun 2015, 10:11 am #1,395

4083 has recieved new Emirates Airways adverts.

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26 Jun 2015, 11:06 am #1,396
(26 Jun 2015, 10:11 am)Tommy_1581 4083 has recieved new Emirates Airways adverts.

Pretty sure 4083 gained this livery at the same time as the 403x series one.

I saw it quite a few weeks ago with the Emirates promotional livery, for sure.
Dan
26 Jun 2015, 11:06 am #1,396

(26 Jun 2015, 10:11 am)Tommy_1581 4083 has recieved new Emirates Airways adverts.

Pretty sure 4083 gained this livery at the same time as the 403x series one.

I saw it quite a few weeks ago with the Emirates promotional livery, for sure.

26 Jun 2015, 3:27 pm #1,397
(26 Jun 2015, 11:06 am)Dan Pretty sure 4083 gained this livery at the same time as the 403x series one.

I saw it quite a few weeks ago with the Emirates promotional livery, for sure.

A revised advert to bring it up with the 2 refurbs.
omnicity4659
26 Jun 2015, 3:27 pm #1,397

(26 Jun 2015, 11:06 am)Dan Pretty sure 4083 gained this livery at the same time as the 403x series one.

I saw it quite a few weeks ago with the Emirates promotional livery, for sure.

A revised advert to bring it up with the 2 refurbs.

Dan

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26 Jun 2015, 3:27 pm #1,398
(26 Jun 2015, 3:27 pm)Tommy_1581 A revised advert to bring it up with the 2 refurbs.

Yep - same one as the 403x example. Been like that weeks.
Dan
26 Jun 2015, 3:27 pm #1,398

(26 Jun 2015, 3:27 pm)Tommy_1581 A revised advert to bring it up with the 2 refurbs.

Yep - same one as the 403x example. Been like that weeks.

26 Jun 2015, 3:30 pm #1,399
(26 Jun 2015, 3:27 pm)Dan Yep - same one as the 403x example. Been like that weeks.

Only just noticed it, it certainly wasn't in that livery two weeks ago.  Big Grin
omnicity4659
26 Jun 2015, 3:30 pm #1,399

(26 Jun 2015, 3:27 pm)Dan Yep - same one as the 403x example. Been like that weeks.

Only just noticed it, it certainly wasn't in that livery two weeks ago.  Big Grin

buss14



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26 Jun 2015, 10:47 pm #1,400
there is one metro broken down due to a compressor system in the engine burst which caused the train to shake. it was really loud and scary
buss14
26 Jun 2015, 10:47 pm #1,400

there is one metro broken down due to a compressor system in the engine burst which caused the train to shake. it was really loud and scary

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