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(10 Feb 2015, 6:41 pm)Tommy_1581 #ScrapTheMetroI reckon it just needs some investment in new rolling stock, I've noticed that most delays are due to "failed trains".
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(10 Feb 2015, 6:41 pm)Tommy_1581 #ScrapTheMetroI reckon it just needs some investment in new rolling stock, I've noticed that most delays are due to "failed trains".
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Do we not think that we only spot these delays, simply because the operator chooses to inform us of delays?
I've taken a look at the limited data available on RTT, and today doesn't look bad at all as an overall picture. I bet if we had access to real time info from all bus operators, there'd be a lot more vehicles not running to timetable.
Glancing at Arriva's during the day, and there's 10min+ delays all over the place. I'm more aware of delays Stagecoach face, as they publish them on their twitter feed now, and they seem to be really on the ball with it.
(10 Feb 2015, 7:34 pm)aureolin Do we not think that we only spot these delays, simply because the operator chooses to inform us of delays?
I've taken a look at the limited data available on RTT, and today doesn't look bad at all as an overall picture. I bet if we had access to real time info from all bus operators, there'd be a lot more vehicles not running to timetable.
Glancing at Arriva's during the day, and there's 10min+ delays all over the place. I'm more aware of delays Stagecoach face, as they publish them on their twitter feed now, and they seem to be really on the ball with it.
(10 Feb 2015, 7:34 pm)aureolin Do we not think that we only spot these delays, simply because the operator chooses to inform us of delays?
I've taken a look at the limited data available on RTT, and today doesn't look bad at all as an overall picture. I bet if we had access to real time info from all bus operators, there'd be a lot more vehicles not running to timetable.
Glancing at Arriva's during the day, and there's 10min+ delays all over the place. I'm more aware of delays Stagecoach face, as they publish them on their twitter feed now, and they seem to be really on the ball with it.
(10 Feb 2015, 7:41 pm)Dan The frequency of the delays is not the issue - it's the reason for the delays occurring.
If we think back to the situation Go North East had with the X7... The vehicles kept on regularly breaking down, and as soon as they could, they upgraded the service to Mercedes Citaros which were by far more suited to the job. Bus operators are in a much better position to replace rolling stock to improve reliability or to make changes to add more running time / recovery time / layover time for the same purpose. A recent example of the latter obviously being the 20/20A services!
(10 Feb 2015, 7:41 pm)Dan The frequency of the delays is not the issue - it's the reason for the delays occurring.
If we think back to the situation Go North East had with the X7... The vehicles kept on regularly breaking down, and as soon as they could, they upgraded the service to Mercedes Citaros which were by far more suited to the job. Bus operators are in a much better position to replace rolling stock to improve reliability or to make changes to add more running time / recovery time / layover time for the same purpose. A recent example of the latter obviously being the 20/20A services!
(10 Feb 2015, 7:50 pm)aureolin I'm confident that they know why, but fixing the issue is another matter. The cash to replace rolling stock isn't there, and it's unlikely to be in the near future. Nexus can only work on further funding bids, and there's absolutely sod all that the operator can do about it unfortunately.
(10 Feb 2015, 7:50 pm)aureolin I'm confident that they know why, but fixing the issue is another matter. The cash to replace rolling stock isn't there, and it's unlikely to be in the near future. Nexus can only work on further funding bids, and there's absolutely sod all that the operator can do about it unfortunately.
(10 Feb 2015, 8:02 pm)Dan The issue, judging by the posts on Social Media, is related to the reliability of rolling stock. Bus operators see that they are having issues with the reliability of their rolling stock and make attempts to fix it. Clearly, as you say, Nexus (and other associated parties) are not in a position to replace the rolling stock on the Tyne & Wear Metro system, so the problems are going to be ongoing for the foreseeable future.Surely though, the operators of the Metro would have known some time ago that the trains would need replacing. Would it not have been sensible to, instead of refurbishing the current stock, buy new trains?
I wouldn't wish to spark a huge debate in this thread as it's not completely relevant, but at the moment, bus operators can pace themselves and replace their rolling stock over time. The oldest stock is kept in a reserve role and doesn't usually see frontline service on demanding work. Under the Quality Contracts Scheme, the operators would not have this control. I think it's a fair enough assumption to suggest that most contracts will stipulate a Euro 5 allocation, yes? This means that the operators will either have to replace the stock completely (to retain a similar level of work as they currently have) or SCRT-fit their fleet with Eminox modifications. Both incur a cost - but the operators will have to do it regardless... Just doesn't seem like a level playing field in my eyes?
(10 Feb 2015, 8:02 pm)Dan The issue, judging by the posts on Social Media, is related to the reliability of rolling stock. Bus operators see that they are having issues with the reliability of their rolling stock and make attempts to fix it. Clearly, as you say, Nexus (and other associated parties) are not in a position to replace the rolling stock on the Tyne & Wear Metro system, so the problems are going to be ongoing for the foreseeable future.Surely though, the operators of the Metro would have known some time ago that the trains would need replacing. Would it not have been sensible to, instead of refurbishing the current stock, buy new trains?
I wouldn't wish to spark a huge debate in this thread as it's not completely relevant, but at the moment, bus operators can pace themselves and replace their rolling stock over time. The oldest stock is kept in a reserve role and doesn't usually see frontline service on demanding work. Under the Quality Contracts Scheme, the operators would not have this control. I think it's a fair enough assumption to suggest that most contracts will stipulate a Euro 5 allocation, yes? This means that the operators will either have to replace the stock completely (to retain a similar level of work as they currently have) or SCRT-fit their fleet with Eminox modifications. Both incur a cost - but the operators will have to do it regardless... Just doesn't seem like a level playing field in my eyes?
Delays at Byker this morning.
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...er-8614437
(10 Feb 2015, 7:09 pm)mb134 I reckon it just needs some investment in new rolling stock, I've noticed that most delays are due to "failed trains".
Maybe instead of doing things like this: http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/tyne-an...75.article
They hould focus on the actual service, because if they keep going as they are, there will be no passengers left to "choose the colour"
(10 Feb 2015, 7:09 pm)mb134 I reckon it just needs some investment in new rolling stock, I've noticed that most delays are due to "failed trains".
Maybe instead of doing things like this: http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/tyne-an...75.article
They hould focus on the actual service, because if they keep going as they are, there will be no passengers left to "choose the colour"
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No trains Chillingham Road - North Shields due to a track fault. Bus Replacment901 calling at or close to stations in affected area.
This was tweeted at 0710, and since there is no trains running between South Gosforth and Newcastle anyway, me thinks to steer clear of the Metro system today, however I have noticed no facebook announcement.....
(14 Feb 2015, 12:07 pm)danpick There are delays of up to 40 mins to trains running between South Gosforth and South Shields due to suspected cable theft. Oh Dear.
(14 Feb 2015, 12:07 pm)danpick There are delays of up to 40 mins to trains running between South Gosforth and South Shields due to suspected cable theft. Oh Dear.
Oh dear!
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A train has been withdrawn from service at South Gosforth. Due to this we have a gap in the service of up to 40 mins to trains running between South Gosforth and Airport. Please leave extra time for your journey if you're travelling in the area.
(15 Feb 2015, 12:27 pm)Michael Oh dear!
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A train has been withdrawn from service at South Gosforth. Due to this we have a gap in the service of up to 40 mins to trains running between South Gosforth and Airport. Please leave extra time for your journey if you're travelling in the area.
(15 Feb 2015, 12:27 pm)Michael Oh dear!
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A train has been withdrawn from service at South Gosforth. Due to this we have a gap in the service of up to 40 mins to trains running between South Gosforth and Airport. Please leave extra time for your journey if you're travelling in the area.
