Cumbria & North Lancashire Bus Operations
Cumbria & North Lancashire Bus Operations
(10 Nov 2013, 8:28 am)Richard Smiles Following on from my Stagecoach North East (Busways & Transit), Fleet Lists, I have recently started producing a Stagecoach in Cumbria & North Lancashire Fleet List. A copy of this is attached.
My personal Thanks must go to Mr Lee Paul Wardle for his help & assistance, in putting together this publication.
(10 Nov 2013, 8:28 am)Richard Smiles Following on from my Stagecoach North East (Busways & Transit), Fleet Lists, I have recently started producing a Stagecoach in Cumbria & North Lancashire Fleet List. A copy of this is attached.
My personal Thanks must go to Mr Lee Paul Wardle for his help & assistance, in putting together this publication.
(10 Nov 2013, 4:55 pm)Dan Fleet movements in Period 7 are as follows:
20960 (R960XVM): Ancillary to Carlisle (Disposal)
20965 (R965XVM): Carlisle Ancillary
(10 Nov 2013, 4:55 pm)Dan Fleet movements in Period 7 are as follows:
20960 (R960XVM): Ancillary to Carlisle (Disposal)
20965 (R965XVM): Carlisle Ancillary
(10 Nov 2013, 4:55 pm)Dan Fleet movements in Period 7 are as follows:
20960 (R960XVM): Ancillary to Carlisle (Disposal)
20965 (R965XVM): Carlisle Ancillary
(10 Nov 2013, 4:55 pm)Dan Fleet movements in Period 7 are as follows:
20960 (R960XVM): Ancillary to Carlisle (Disposal)
20965 (R965XVM): Carlisle Ancillary
(13 Feb 2014, 6:19 pm)Tom The Summer Timetables will be coming out soon, so anyone one have any predictions on what the summer timetables will be like this year? Last year there were a couple of surprises, especially the 800!
(13 Feb 2014, 6:19 pm)Tom The Summer Timetables will be coming out soon, so anyone one have any predictions on what the summer timetables will be like this year? Last year there were a couple of surprises, especially the 800!
(13 Feb 2014, 7:15 pm)GuyParkRoyal My prediction is competition from Reays on all of the major summer routes in Cumbria (554 weekend and bank holiday registered) which will no doubt result in ongoing timetable changes. I also expect Reays to pick up some more of the secured services in Cumbria. I expect and hope that Stagecoach will come up with some innovative ticketing options to deal with the completion from Reays.
(13 Feb 2014, 7:15 pm)GuyParkRoyal My prediction is competition from Reays on all of the major summer routes in Cumbria (554 weekend and bank holiday registered) which will no doubt result in ongoing timetable changes. I also expect Reays to pick up some more of the secured services in Cumbria. I expect and hope that Stagecoach will come up with some innovative ticketing options to deal with the completion from Reays.
(13 Feb 2014, 7:17 pm)Tom Yeah, good points. I'd like to see more regular times on the 77 and 508 introduced too, as they, in particular the 77 seem quite busy.
(13 Feb 2014, 7:17 pm)Tom Yeah, good points. I'd like to see more regular times on the 77 and 508 introduced too, as they, in particular the 77 seem quite busy.
(13 Feb 2014, 7:55 pm)GuyParkRoyal 77 would benefit from an increase in service frequency on weekends due to capacity problems. I guess the challenging route prevents the use of anything bigger than the solo so an increase in frequency looks like the best option. I was left standing at Seatoller in June when the 77 was full to capacity fortunately I only had a short wait for the 78 but anyone at the Slate Mine would not have the option of the 78 or 78R.
(13 Feb 2014, 7:55 pm)GuyParkRoyal 77 would benefit from an increase in service frequency on weekends due to capacity problems. I guess the challenging route prevents the use of anything bigger than the solo so an increase in frequency looks like the best option. I was left standing at Seatoller in June when the 77 was full to capacity fortunately I only had a short wait for the 78 but anyone at the Slate Mine would not have the option of the 78 or 78R.
(13 Feb 2014, 7:55 pm)GuyParkRoyal 77 would benefit from an increase in service frequency on weekends due to capacity problems. I guess the challenging route prevents the use of anything bigger than the solo so an increase in frequency looks like the best option. I was left standing at Seatoller in June when the 77 was full to capacity fortunately I only had a short wait for the 78 but anyone at the Slate Mine would not have the option of the 78 or 78R.
(13 Feb 2014, 7:55 pm)GuyParkRoyal 77 would benefit from an increase in service frequency on weekends due to capacity problems. I guess the challenging route prevents the use of anything bigger than the solo so an increase in frequency looks like the best option. I was left standing at Seatoller in June when the 77 was full to capacity fortunately I only had a short wait for the 78 but anyone at the Slate Mine would not have the option of the 78 or 78R.
(13 Feb 2014, 8:02 pm)Dan I'd personally like to see a Solo SR on the 77. Don't like the older Solos so much, but the SRs are a lot better.
I'd imagine the cost could be justified because the loadings are pretty good.
(13 Feb 2014, 8:02 pm)Dan I'd personally like to see a Solo SR on the 77. Don't like the older Solos so much, but the SRs are a lot better.
I'd imagine the cost could be justified because the loadings are pretty good.
(13 Feb 2014, 8:10 pm)Tom Looks a lovely service too! - Very scenic.
And yeah, a Solo SR would be a option. I'd also like to see next stop announcemnts and interior branding on the Stagecoach services (for example 555, 599 and 77/78) as there are lots of tourists in the Lake District, and also could get some profit advertising.
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(13 Feb 2014, 8:10 pm)Tom Looks a lovely service too! - Very scenic.
And yeah, a Solo SR would be a option. I'd also like to see next stop announcemnts and interior branding on the Stagecoach services (for example 555, 599 and 77/78) as there are lots of tourists in the Lake District, and also could get some profit advertising.
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(13 Feb 2014, 8:40 pm)tyresmoke Am I right in thinking the two Solos used on the 77 were specifically set up to deal with the demands of the route?
The 599 has live commentary on the Tridents of various sights and the main stopping points. The 555 is a high quality link and gets very busy even on poor weather days.
(13 Feb 2014, 8:40 pm)tyresmoke Am I right in thinking the two Solos used on the 77 were specifically set up to deal with the demands of the route?
The 599 has live commentary on the Tridents of various sights and the main stopping points. The 555 is a high quality link and gets very busy even on poor weather days.
(13 Feb 2014, 7:15 pm)GuyParkRoyal My prediction is competition from Reays on all of the major summer routes in Cumbria (554 weekend and bank holiday registered) which will no doubt result in ongoing timetable changes. I also expect Reays to pick up some more of the secured services in Cumbria. I expect and hope that Stagecoach will come up with some innovative ticketing options to deal with the completion from Reays.
(13 Feb 2014, 7:15 pm)GuyParkRoyal My prediction is competition from Reays on all of the major summer routes in Cumbria (554 weekend and bank holiday registered) which will no doubt result in ongoing timetable changes. I also expect Reays to pick up some more of the secured services in Cumbria. I expect and hope that Stagecoach will come up with some innovative ticketing options to deal with the completion from Reays.
(13 Feb 2014, 9:43 pm)mattdw92 The only problem is, is that Reays registered all their 2014 summer work, well before Christmas - which they haven't got any OT's for. Which has given SC plenty of time to pounce and plan their summer services.
Reays pulled out of the 34/35 which they took off the council too. They're service 36 and 60 has gone down to 1 PVR. Then they sell buses, to realise they don't have enough so acquire stuff on loan. Legit...
(13 Feb 2014, 9:43 pm)mattdw92 The only problem is, is that Reays registered all their 2014 summer work, well before Christmas - which they haven't got any OT's for. Which has given SC plenty of time to pounce and plan their summer services.
Reays pulled out of the 34/35 which they took off the council too. They're service 36 and 60 has gone down to 1 PVR. Then they sell buses, to realise they don't have enough so acquire stuff on loan. Legit...
(13 Feb 2014, 9:43 pm)mattdw92 They have recently accused Stagecoach of running them to the ground, after Stagecoach added extra journeys on its 38 service ahead of their 500 service. Which was exactly what they did with the SC 300. They then run to the papers just because they are "local" and can't stand competition...
(13 Feb 2014, 8:58 pm)Kuyoyo Yes, 47721/2 were specially built for the 77/77A with a specially adapted rear axle to cross the Honister Pass.
554 Wigton - Keswick
555 Keswick - Bowness
78 Keswick - Seatoller
No "R's" on them this year and ridic numbers to start with that clash to different destinations. Only Reays...
Timetables will probably be like this when they are released, and the carry on will start again....
(13 Feb 2014, 9:43 pm)mattdw92 They have recently accused Stagecoach of running them to the ground, after Stagecoach added extra journeys on its 38 service ahead of their 500 service. Which was exactly what they did with the SC 300. They then run to the papers just because they are "local" and can't stand competition...
(13 Feb 2014, 8:58 pm)Kuyoyo Yes, 47721/2 were specially built for the 77/77A with a specially adapted rear axle to cross the Honister Pass.
(13 Feb 2014, 9:56 pm)mattdw92 554 Wigton - Keswick
555 Keswick - Bowness
78 Keswick - Seatoller
No "R's" on them this year and ridic numbers to start with that clash to different destinations. Only Reays...
Timetables will probably be like this when they are released, and the carry on will start again....
(13 Feb 2014, 9:56 pm)mattdw92 554 Wigton - Keswick
555 Keswick - Bowness
78 Keswick - Seatoller
No "R's" on them this year and ridic numbers to start with that clash to different destinations. Only Reays...
Timetables will probably be like this when they are released, and the carry on will start again....
(13 Feb 2014, 10:01 pm)Tom Oh dear... No 77 (Keswick-Cockermouth) then?
(13 Feb 2014, 10:01 pm)Tom Oh dear... No 77 (Keswick-Cockermouth) then?
