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Andreos1



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11 Aug 2013, 7:32 pm #61
(11 Aug 2013, 7:23 pm)BJ10VUS I'd say from judging what I've found on Google Maps, it's not much different to what the buses going down Knightside Gardens in Dunston have to cope with. It looks like a squeeze in some places, but should probably be fine.

The 26 and 727 both had deckers go around Barley Mow. Until recently when the MPDs were sent round, full sized single deckers all went around too.
Dorset Avenue is the only place (currently on/off route) which seems to have more parked cars than ever. Not sure if thats ever been a factor.
Deckers have always got around Vigo on scholars services too.

Can only presume it is loadings stopping Compass sticking the Cadet on the 23.
Andreos1
11 Aug 2013, 7:32 pm #61

(11 Aug 2013, 7:23 pm)BJ10VUS I'd say from judging what I've found on Google Maps, it's not much different to what the buses going down Knightside Gardens in Dunston have to cope with. It looks like a squeeze in some places, but should probably be fine.

The 26 and 727 both had deckers go around Barley Mow. Until recently when the MPDs were sent round, full sized single deckers all went around too.
Dorset Avenue is the only place (currently on/off route) which seems to have more parked cars than ever. Not sure if thats ever been a factor.
Deckers have always got around Vigo on scholars services too.

Can only presume it is loadings stopping Compass sticking the Cadet on the 23.

gtom

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11 Aug 2013, 7:46 pm #62
Loadings would make sense, I've never seen more than 3 or 4 people on it. I'd suggest a Solo is probably overloading it.

It's a prime candidate for a TaxiBus
gtom
11 Aug 2013, 7:46 pm #62

Loadings would make sense, I've never seen more than 3 or 4 people on it. I'd suggest a Solo is probably overloading it.

It's a prime candidate for a TaxiBus

tyresmoke



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11 Aug 2013, 7:51 pm #63
Stanley have used Olympian's on service 23 to Barley Mow in the past...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/61391443@N02/8009651292
tyresmoke
11 Aug 2013, 7:51 pm #63

Stanley have used Olympian's on service 23 to Barley Mow in the past...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/61391443@N02/8009651292

Adam



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11 Aug 2013, 9:28 pm #64
(11 Aug 2013, 7:46 pm)gtomlinson Loadings would make sense, I've never seen more than 3 or 4 people on it. I'd suggest a Solo is probably overloading it.

It's a prime candidate for a TaxiBus

A couple of weeks ago I saw the Stanley MPD on the 23 at Wrekenton. It had 10 people on (I was sad enough to count them Sad ) It can be a popular little service at times.
Adam
11 Aug 2013, 9:28 pm #64

(11 Aug 2013, 7:46 pm)gtomlinson Loadings would make sense, I've never seen more than 3 or 4 people on it. I'd suggest a Solo is probably overloading it.

It's a prime candidate for a TaxiBus

A couple of weeks ago I saw the Stanley MPD on the 23 at Wrekenton. It had 10 people on (I was sad enough to count them Sad ) It can be a popular little service at times.

gtom

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13 Aug 2013, 11:45 am #65
Conpass had Iveco NX04 AWU on 23 today.

Had an A4 sheet in the window with 23 on it. Find that a bit poor
gtom
13 Aug 2013, 11:45 am #65

Conpass had Iveco NX04 AWU on 23 today.

Had an A4 sheet in the window with 23 on it. Find that a bit poor

Dan

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13 Aug 2013, 11:46 am #66
(13 Aug 2013, 11:45 am)gtomlinson Conpass had Iveco NX04 AWU on 23 today.

Had an A4 sheet in the window with 23 on it. Find that a bit poor

Welcome to the world of the 37/8X. :p
Dan
13 Aug 2013, 11:46 am #66

(13 Aug 2013, 11:45 am)gtomlinson Conpass had Iveco NX04 AWU on 23 today.

Had an A4 sheet in the window with 23 on it. Find that a bit poor

Welcome to the world of the 37/8X. :p

gtom

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13 Aug 2013, 12:03 pm #67
Must contravene a few nexus rules?
gtom
13 Aug 2013, 12:03 pm #67

Must contravene a few nexus rules?

Dan

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13 Aug 2013, 12:05 pm #68
(13 Aug 2013, 12:03 pm)gtomlinson Must contravene a few nexus rules?

You'd have thought so! I still can't get over the fact they're allowed to have buses running around that aren't in the Nexus livery - a subject which we've touched on before.
Dan
13 Aug 2013, 12:05 pm #68

(13 Aug 2013, 12:03 pm)gtomlinson Must contravene a few nexus rules?

You'd have thought so! I still can't get over the fact they're allowed to have buses running around that aren't in the Nexus livery - a subject which we've touched on before.

gtom

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13 Aug 2013, 5:31 pm #69
(13 Aug 2013, 12:05 pm)Daniel You'd have thought so! I still can't get over the fact they're allowed to have buses running around that aren't in the Nexus livery - a subject which we've touched on before.

I'm going to ask Nexus
gtom
13 Aug 2013, 5:31 pm #69

(13 Aug 2013, 12:05 pm)Daniel You'd have thought so! I still can't get over the fact they're allowed to have buses running around that aren't in the Nexus livery - a subject which we've touched on before.

I'm going to ask Nexus

Dan

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13 Aug 2013, 5:44 pm #70
(13 Aug 2013, 5:31 pm)gtomlinson I'm going to ask Nexus

@Aureolin shared a sample Nexus contract with us before, but I can't actually remember if it mentioned anything about the livery of vehicles?
Would be good if we could have a copy on the forum again.. hint hint! Wink
Dan
13 Aug 2013, 5:44 pm #70

(13 Aug 2013, 5:31 pm)gtomlinson I'm going to ask Nexus

@Aureolin shared a sample Nexus contract with us before, but I can't actually remember if it mentioned anything about the livery of vehicles?
Would be good if we could have a copy on the forum again.. hint hint! Wink

cbma06



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13 Aug 2013, 5:45 pm #71
(13 Aug 2013, 5:31 pm)gtomlinson I'm going to ask Nexus

As Nexus-branded vehicles are owned by bus companies there is nothing to stop them being used on other services according to their operational needs. We expect to see branded buses on the routes we pay for using public funds unless there are operational problems

source:

http://www.nexus.org.uk/nexusbus-arriva


cbma06
13 Aug 2013, 5:45 pm #71

(13 Aug 2013, 5:31 pm)gtomlinson I'm going to ask Nexus

As Nexus-branded vehicles are owned by bus companies there is nothing to stop them being used on other services according to their operational needs. We expect to see branded buses on the routes we pay for using public funds unless there are operational problems

source:

http://www.nexus.org.uk/nexusbus-arriva



Dan

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13 Aug 2013, 5:47 pm #72
(13 Aug 2013, 5:45 pm)cbma06 As Nexus-branded vehicles are owned by bus companies there is nothing to stop them being used on other services according to their operational needs. We expect to see branded buses on the routes we pay for using public funds unless there are operational problems

source:

http://www.nexus.org.uk/nexusbus-arriva

They know for a fine fact they're not going to get that with Compass though, because nothing in their fleet is Nexus liveried...
Would love to know how they get away with it!
Dan
13 Aug 2013, 5:47 pm #72

(13 Aug 2013, 5:45 pm)cbma06 As Nexus-branded vehicles are owned by bus companies there is nothing to stop them being used on other services according to their operational needs. We expect to see branded buses on the routes we pay for using public funds unless there are operational problems

source:

http://www.nexus.org.uk/nexusbus-arriva

They know for a fine fact they're not going to get that with Compass though, because nothing in their fleet is Nexus liveried...
Would love to know how they get away with it!

gtom

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14 Aug 2013, 12:37 pm #73
(13 Aug 2013, 5:47 pm)Daniel They know for a fine fact they're not going to get that with Compass though, because nothing in their fleet is Nexus liveried...
Would love to know how they get away with it!

Funny we mentioned this, was speaking to a friend last night who lives in Birtley and his Gran missed the 23 because the Iveco went speeding past and she thought it was just another van.

He'd already had details of someone at Nexus and got this response

With regards to the type of bus that you saw on the 23 yesterday, we are aware that Compass have resorted to utilising the Iveco due to the regular bus (and the spare bus) being off the road. Nevertheless we would expect the service to be operated by a low floor easy access bus with a suitable destination blind on the front of the bus, as per the contract. I have witnessed the Iveco myself on both the 23 and 37 services recently and we will be taking action for the use of the Iveco.
gtom
14 Aug 2013, 12:37 pm #73

(13 Aug 2013, 5:47 pm)Daniel They know for a fine fact they're not going to get that with Compass though, because nothing in their fleet is Nexus liveried...
Would love to know how they get away with it!

Funny we mentioned this, was speaking to a friend last night who lives in Birtley and his Gran missed the 23 because the Iveco went speeding past and she thought it was just another van.

He'd already had details of someone at Nexus and got this response

With regards to the type of bus that you saw on the 23 yesterday, we are aware that Compass have resorted to utilising the Iveco due to the regular bus (and the spare bus) being off the road. Nevertheless we would expect the service to be operated by a low floor easy access bus with a suitable destination blind on the front of the bus, as per the contract. I have witnessed the Iveco myself on both the 23 and 37 services recently and we will be taking action for the use of the Iveco.

Dan

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14 Aug 2013, 2:41 pm #74
The Iveco has been pretty much a daily allocation on the 8X since it last changed. They used to interwork it with the 37 and a school swimming baths run and also the 8X as far as I'm aware.
They started using the Bluebird they have for a while but then stopped...
They have a few Solos, a few Cadets and the Bluebird with destination blinds. No reason at all not to use them. All of their services are covered by those vehicles.
Dan
14 Aug 2013, 2:41 pm #74

The Iveco has been pretty much a daily allocation on the 8X since it last changed. They used to interwork it with the 37 and a school swimming baths run and also the 8X as far as I'm aware.
They started using the Bluebird they have for a while but then stopped...
They have a few Solos, a few Cadets and the Bluebird with destination blinds. No reason at all not to use them. All of their services are covered by those vehicles.

gtom

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14 Aug 2013, 2:49 pm #75
(14 Aug 2013, 2:41 pm)Daniel The Iveco has been pretty much a daily allocation on the 8X since it last changed. They used to interwork it with the 37 and a school swimming baths run and also the 8X as far as I'm aware.
They started using the Bluebird they have for a while but then stopped...
They have a few Solos, a few Cadets and the Bluebird with destination blinds. No reason at all not to use them. All of their services are covered by those vehicles.

I assume Compass tell Nexus that all those vehicles are off road?

Doesn't give me huge confidence in QC if they let Compass get away with stuff like this
gtom
14 Aug 2013, 2:49 pm #75

(14 Aug 2013, 2:41 pm)Daniel The Iveco has been pretty much a daily allocation on the 8X since it last changed. They used to interwork it with the 37 and a school swimming baths run and also the 8X as far as I'm aware.
They started using the Bluebird they have for a while but then stopped...
They have a few Solos, a few Cadets and the Bluebird with destination blinds. No reason at all not to use them. All of their services are covered by those vehicles.

I assume Compass tell Nexus that all those vehicles are off road?

Doesn't give me huge confidence in QC if they let Compass get away with stuff like this

Adrian



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15 Aug 2013, 6:38 pm #76
(13 Aug 2013, 5:44 pm)Daniel @Aureolin shared a sample Nexus contract with us before, but I can't actually remember if it mentioned anything about the livery of vehicles?
Would be good if we could have a copy on the forum again.. hint hint! Wink

Copy attached to this post. Might be worth adding to the PTE docs section of the bygone era too?
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Adrian
15 Aug 2013, 6:38 pm #76

(13 Aug 2013, 5:44 pm)Daniel @Aureolin shared a sample Nexus contract with us before, but I can't actually remember if it mentioned anything about the livery of vehicles?
Would be good if we could have a copy on the forum again.. hint hint! Wink

Copy attached to this post. Might be worth adding to the PTE docs section of the bygone era too?

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Size 424.21 KB / Downloads 50

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BJ10VUS



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15 Aug 2013, 7:02 pm #77
It states: "Vehicles used in the performance of this contract must be painted in corporate/advertising livery or a livery approved or specified by Nexus. Under certain circumstances, operators may be required to confirm their corporate livery."

I suppose the problem with the smaller operators is that if they were to fully comply with the rules, most likely their entire fleets would be made up of Nexus branded vehicles only - unlike GNE and Arriva, where it's just a small percentage.
Edited 15 Aug 2013, 10:46 pm by BJ10VUS.
BJ10VUS
15 Aug 2013, 7:02 pm #77

It states: "Vehicles used in the performance of this contract must be painted in corporate/advertising livery or a livery approved or specified by Nexus. Under certain circumstances, operators may be required to confirm their corporate livery."

I suppose the problem with the smaller operators is that if they were to fully comply with the rules, most likely their entire fleets would be made up of Nexus branded vehicles only - unlike GNE and Arriva, where it's just a small percentage.

Andreos1



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18 Aug 2013, 1:54 pm #78
The 79 was being worked by the 'van' yesterday.
Not sure where the normal Solo was.

Previous to that, noticed the Cadet on the 73 was as empty as ever on Thursday and on Friday, sitting empty at Heworth on the service along Shields Road.
Andreos1
18 Aug 2013, 1:54 pm #78

The 79 was being worked by the 'van' yesterday.
Not sure where the normal Solo was.

Previous to that, noticed the Cadet on the 73 was as empty as ever on Thursday and on Friday, sitting empty at Heworth on the service along Shields Road.

gtom

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18 Aug 2013, 7:11 pm #79
I'd be amazed if these unprofessional jokers won anymore contracts (and if they do, Nexus want shot)
gtom
18 Aug 2013, 7:11 pm #79

I'd be amazed if these unprofessional jokers won anymore contracts (and if they do, Nexus want shot)

Dan

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18 Aug 2013, 7:17 pm #80
(18 Aug 2013, 7:11 pm)gtomlinson I'd be amazed if these unprofessional jokers won anymore contracts (and if they do, Nexus want shot)

Well they've only just snatched the 73 from GNE, the company who offers a "Nexus Bus" branded Euro 5 Solo SR...
Dan
18 Aug 2013, 7:17 pm #80

(18 Aug 2013, 7:11 pm)gtomlinson I'd be amazed if these unprofessional jokers won anymore contracts (and if they do, Nexus want shot)

Well they've only just snatched the 73 from GNE, the company who offers a "Nexus Bus" branded Euro 5 Solo SR...

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