North East Buses

Mod edit: Since this was posted, we've had confirmation from the NEBPT that the event will be held as follows.

NEBPT North East Bus and Coach Show 2017
Sunday, 30th April 2017
@ Spillers Wharf, Quayside, Newcastle



Cheers,
Adrian

(30 Dec 2016, 11:55 am)NK53 TKT wrote [ -> ]Does anyone know when this is, is it 30th April, 1st May or 7th May?

April 30th I think (not 100% confirmed to my knowledge).

The event will not be at the MetroCentre anymore though. Location for the rally hasn't publicly being announced, so it's all up in the air at the moment really.

(30 Dec 2016, 12:23 pm)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]April 30th I think (not 100% confirmed to my knowledge).

The event will not be at the MetroCentre anymore though. Location for the rally hasn't publicly being announced, so it's all up in the air at the moment really.

Annoying, I plan to go to London that weekend returning on BA1336 in the evening

Just bought Buses Magazine today.

The 2017/18 Rally guide has this at Spillers Wharf, Newcastle Quayside with free parking on site and a free classic bus service from Newcastle centre and Gateshead.

(16 Mar 2017, 4:33 pm)Pulsar wrote [ -> ]Just bought Buses Magazine today.

The 2017/18 Rally guide has this at Spillers Wharf, Newcastle Quayside with free parking on site and a free classic bus service from Newcastle centre and Gateshead.

What day?

(16 Mar 2017, 8:04 pm)NK53 TKT wrote [ -> ]What day?

Thursday, all day.

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(16 Mar 2017, 8:04 pm)NK53 TKT wrote [ -> ]What day?

30th April. I've had a look on the north east bus preservation trust website but there are no details listed.

Hope they provide clear details of how to get there. Spillers wharf is a lot less accessible than the metro centre.

Charles

(16 Mar 2017, 8:19 pm)Charles41 wrote [ -> ]30th April. I've had a look on the north east bus preservation trust website but there are no details listed.

Hope they provide clear details of how to get there. Spillers wharf is a lot less accessible than the metro centre.

Charles

Indeed, I tried to look where Spillers Wharf is and I ain't particularly sure where exactly it is, the closest I've come to finding out is that it's somewhere on the Quayside which isn't exactly helpful to me.

(16 Mar 2017, 8:32 pm)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]Indeed, I tried to look where Spillers Wharf is and I ain't particularly sure where exactly it is, the closest I've come to finding out is that it's somewhere on the Quayside which isn't exactly helpful to me.

The q3 is the best bus to get. If you alight near the free trade pub and then walk eastward along the quayside.

If they are doing a free bus from Gateshead and the city centre then they need to publish a timetable and list of departure points. Also a good idea to have volunteers at the various stops to help people with directions and queries.

Charles

I think it's somewhere around ouseburn, on the q3 route.

Edit: though this places it just off the millennium bridge
https://www.view.co.uk/newcastle/v/spillers-wharf
I suppose somewhere in between would be a safe bet!

Looking at the area of Spillers Wharf, I would say it will be on the Car Park of the "The Cycle Hub", which is a reasonably sized site.

(16 Mar 2017, 10:18 pm)Malarkey wrote [ -> ]Looking at the area of Spillers Wharf, I would say it will be on the Car Park of the "The Cycle Hub", which is a reasonably sized site.

I was just about to post that it is behind the Cycle Hub - where the Spiller's building was.

Except that nobody anywhere has mentioned that is says provision underneath the event in the Rally Guide - meaning it is not confirmed yet.

(16 Mar 2017, 11:32 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]Except that nobody anywhere has mentioned that is says provision underneath the event in the Rally Guide - meaning it is not confirmed yet.

Yep, provisionally published in Buses Magazine, a premature announcement on their part. The Trust are still in negotiations with parties involved so not set in stone for public confirmation.
Slap on wrists for Buses Mag.

I appreciate that negotiations take time, but you wonder if they're leaving it far too late? If it isn't announced in the next few days, then it'll be little over a month until it's *provisionally* scheduled. It doesn't leave an awful lot of time to get preservationists and enthusiasts rounded up, in order to make the event a big success.

I can't help but think it'd be a better idea for them to just focus the time and attention into a plan for a 2018 event there and beyond. It gives them plenty of time to get organised, and get interest from entries further afield. Something we've had little of in recent times.

I feel the spillers wharf site is a poor choice. It's off the beaten track and has very few facilities. There are no public toilets nearby and little in the way of shops or cafes. Plus part of the site is fenced off and overgrown. I walked past it on Sunday and was not impressed.

Charles

I disagree that it's a poor location.

Both the BBC and for 13 years the Evolution Festival used the site with numbers that bus rally organisers could only dream of. Toilets aren't an issue, you hire them, as with catering. It's near a thriving pub and popular location like Ouseburn and a short and very pleasant stroll from Newcastle Quayside.

Plenty of parking around too. Credit to them for thinking about this one

(21 Mar 2017, 11:21 pm)Ambassador wrote [ -> ]I disagree that it's a poor location.

Both the BBC and for 13 years the Evolution Festival used the site with numbers that bus rally organisers could only dream of. Toilets aren't an issue, you hire them, as with catering. It's near a thriving pub and popular location like Ouseburn and a short and very pleasant stroll from Newcastle Quayside.

Plenty of parking around too. Credit to them for thinking about this one

I have pretty much zero knowledge of the potential location but I think the other rallies they hold such as Howlands, they don't have any any toilet facilities but there is normally a burger van of some description. There is also the shuttles from Gateshead and Newcastle? to get to those facilities.

(21 Mar 2017, 11:21 pm)Ambassador wrote [ -> ]I disagree that it's a poor location.

Both the BBC and for 13 years the Evolution Festival used the site with numbers that bus rally organisers could only dream of. Toilets aren't an issue, you hire them, as with catering. It's near a thriving pub and popular location like Ouseburn and a short and very pleasant stroll from Newcastle Quayside.

Plenty of parking around too. Credit to them for thinking about this one

Hadn't twigged that it was where the Evolution festival was held.

Quite a big site from my experience of Evo, and I agree with your comments.

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(21 Mar 2017, 6:44 pm)Charles41 wrote [ -> ]I feel the spillers wharf site is a poor choice. It's off the beaten track and has very few facilities. There are no public toilets nearby and little in the way of shops or cafes. Plus part of the site is fenced off and overgrown. I walked past it on Sunday and was not impressed.

Charles

Like toilets, they would hire in catering facilities like at many of the Trust's events. The Quayside amenities really aren't that far away for the able bodied, and there would be an internal shuttle to Gateshead interchange.

According to the NEBPT the venue has not been sorted yet.

I agree.... Its a poor location. Its not been organized very well. You would have thought they might have tried to get a better location, one next to a transport hub or at the very least near a Metro stop.

My chose would have been Chester LE Street cricket ground coach park, The Stadium Of Light as long as A game wasn't on. Or the Snipley park and ride site in Durham.

I don't think it's a bad location at all. Hard standing is clearly the best solution for this kind of event, as it stops rain becoming a problem for buses getting in, out and around the site. Showbus last year was on a similar hard standing site, although a larger scale. Catering and toilet facilities were hired in, and I'd say the general consensus was that it was a lot better than previous years.

For food and facilities. You also have the Q3 that'll take you into the bus station, and there are plenty of toilet facilities and food outlets there. You also have the Sunday market on in Newcastle, and it has quite number of food places there.

As I've said previous, my only concern is that the trust are not giving themselves an much time to have a fair crack at making this year's event a success, given that we're not much over a month away now. I'd say the site is bigger than what was available at the Metrocentre, and I just hope it is used to inject a fresh approach into the event.

There are a few other good hard standing sites around, but I think the trust have done the right thing keeping it in the Newcastle/Gateshead area. The Emirates cricket ground car park wouldn't be a bad call for a Durham rally, but it'd have to be the car park rather than coach park for me... I've not been there for a while, but I think it only holds about 12 coaches normally?

(22 Mar 2017, 6:33 pm)Adrian wrote [ -> ]I don't think it's a bad location at all. Hard standing is clearly the best solution for this kind of event, as it stops rain becoming a problem for buses getting in, out and around the site. Showbus last year was on a similar hard standing site, although a larger scale. Catering and toilet facilities were hired in, and I'd say the general consensus was that it was a lot better than previous years.

For food and facilities. You also have the Q3 that'll take you into the bus station, and there are plenty of toilet facilities and food outlets there. You also have the Sunday market on in Newcastle, and it has quite number of food places there.

As I've said previous, my only concern is that the trust are not giving themselves an much time to have a fair crack at making this year's event a success, given that we're not much over a month away now. I'd say the site is bigger than what was available at the Metrocentre, and I just hope it is used to inject a fresh approach into the event.

There are a few other good hard standing sites around, but I think the trust have done the right thing keeping it in the Newcastle/Gateshead area. The Emirates cricket ground car park wouldn't be a bad call for a Durham rally, but it'd have to be the car park rather than coach park for me... I've not been there for a while, but I think it only holds about 12 coaches normally?

What about Great Park Park and Ride, living next to it I know that the site is definitely big enough

My other concern with regards to spillers wharf is the lack of a pavement by the main road that runs parallel to the site. There is a cycle lane but no pavement wide enough to accommodate a wheelchair or pram. Given that you are going to have buses entering and exiting the site this is rather worrying from a health and safety perspective.

Also as to the need for toilets, if you are caught short you don't have time to wait for the q3 and then journey to the bus station.

Regarding hard standing when I passed on Sunday the site had numerous puddles on it which suggests the hard standing is not well maintained.

I feel it's time for a rethink as to the validity of this proposed site. I understand it's owned by newcastle city council.

Charles

It's now been confirmed that the event will take place on April 30th 2017 at Spillers Wharf.

The post on North East Bus Preservation Trust's Facebook page states:

Following several weeks of speculation we can now announce that the NEBPT Bus & Coach Show will be held at Spillers Wharf, Newcastle Quayside on Sunday 30th April, 2017.
This event has been held at what is now the intu Metrocentre for the last twenty five years, but for reasons beyond our control it can not now take place at this venue.
We have had to fill in a mountain of paperwork, ranging from the Event Safety Plan to a Rival Markets Licence, and a multitude of other Health & Safety and Insurance requirements in between.
We have attended Safety Advisory Group (SAG) meetings, and had to satisfy all the requirements laid down by Newcastle City Council, Northumbria Police and North East Ambulance Service, just to name a few of the Agencies involved, before a licence was granted.
Further information concerning the event will be published over the next week as and when all the arrangements are finalised.
Many thanks for your patience.

(24 Mar 2017, 4:44 pm)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]It's now been confirmed that the event will take place on April 30th 2017 at Spillers Wharf.

The post on North East Bus Preservation Trust's Facebook page states:

Following several weeks of speculation we can now announce that the NEBPT Bus & Coach Show will be held at Spillers Wharf, Newcastle Quayside on Sunday 30th April, 2017.
This event has been held at what is now the intu Metrocentre for the last twenty five years, but for reasons beyond our control it can not now take place at this venue.
We have had to fill in a mountain of paperwork, ranging from the Event Safety Plan to a Rival Markets Licence, and a multitude of other Health & Safety and Insurance requirements in between.
We have attended Safety Advisory Group (SAG) meetings, and had to satisfy all the requirements laid down by Newcastle City Council, Northumbria Police and North East Ambulance Service, just to name a few of the Agencies involved, before a licence was granted.
Further information concerning the event will be published over the next week as and when all the arrangements are finalised.
Many thanks for your patience.

Damn, I am on BA1338 from LHR that Sunday

(24 Mar 2017, 5:09 pm)NK53 TKT wrote [ -> ]Damn, I am on BA1338 from LHR that Sunday

First World Problems

(24 Mar 2017, 8:34 pm)Rapidsnap wrote [ -> ]First World Problems

Your right, they downgraded my A321 to an A320 too...

Unfortuantley I'm not going to be going as I'm at work that day. Not helped by the fact that Easter is later this year which meant there was 3 rallies I want to go to 3 weekends in a row, and unfortunatley could only get time off for 2 of them so picked to go to Kirkby Stephen and Teesside Running Day as they at the time were definatley happening. I might be attending Durham this year however.

(16 Mar 2017, 9:04 pm)BusLoverMum wrote [ -> ]I think it's somewhere around ouseburn, on the q3 route.

Edit: though this places it just off the millennium bridge
https://www.view.co.uk/newcastle/v/spillers-wharf
I suppose somewhere in between would be a safe bet!

Yes - about 200 yards down-river from the Ouseburn exit into the Tyne.

A useful car route to the venue from the North end of the Tyne Bridge is as follows (DO NOT attempt to go down to the Quayside between the Tyne Bridge and the Law Courts -  as the weekly Sunday Market will be in full swing):

*On leaving the bridge, take the 4th exit from the Swan roundabout - signposted Walker.
*This will lead you onto City Road.  Go forward until you pass the Hotel du Vin on your Left.
*Take the next turning on your Right - signposted Ouseburn South - onto Horatio Street.
*At the bottom of the street, turn Left,  and then go forward until you cross the bridge over the Ouseburn.
*After about a further 200yards, turn Right into the large Spiller's Wharf (free) Car Park.
*The Bus/Coach Show will be sited on a large broad area at the down-river end of the car park.

I hope this is helpful.