North East Buses

27730 is now at Sunderland, parked up around the back.

19218 is also there being prepared for repaint.

(14 Jul 2019, 9:11 pm)Acky81 wrote [ -> ]

Anyone got pics of the 31 and 32 services

In northern twoc and busways livery.

I remember the 17 and 25 been extended to Doxford park.

The 26 went to the forge didn’t it

(11 Jul 2019, 10:06 am)stagecoachbusdepot wrote [ -> ]

It was the 32 that went to Seaburn (Sundays only) before the 31 came on
the scene, I believe?  The 31 first appeared as that joint service in
1988 whereas the 32 started back in 1987.  When the 32 went daily, the
section north of the river was withdrawn though the 17 had already been
in operation for some months before that.  The 17 and 25 seem to have
swapped terminals back and forth at the north end too, switching between
South Bents and Seaburn between them. 

17 started 23-03-87 (CBS to Seaburn)

31 started 11-04-88

32 started 18-07-87 (Sundays, Doxford Park - Seaburn) then 11-12-87 (Doxford Park - CBS)

Interestingly I found reference
to a Service 8 which was to operate
















from Central Bus Station to Ferryboat Lane via Hylton Castle Road but appears to have only lasted a metter of weeks in the summer of 1988 - does anyone recall this one?

(14 Jul 2019, 9:28 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote [ -> ]

That was a much later incarnation - there were three different 26's operated by Sunderland Busways at different times.  The one from St Peters to The Forge was the last of the three and started in August 1994.

Unreported - 22424 is currently on loan to Slatyford, on the back of summer service 1 PVR decreases.

(16 Jul 2019, 12:26 pm)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]If I remember correctly:

1, 26 North Estates to Seaburn (summer Sunday Service)

2, 26 Sunderland to Seaburn Camp ( to compete against Catch A Bus service 6 along that section)

3, 26 St. Peter’s - Sunderland - Old Forge


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Kind of related, does anyone have any of the old TWPTE Scholars or Works services leaflets that they used to produce in the late 80s/90s?  I thought there were some in the old bygone era section but I can't see any there (unless i'm searching wrong)

(17 Jul 2019, 4:31 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote [ -> ]

Kind of related, does anyone have any of the old TWPTE Scholars or Works services leaflets that they used to produce in the late 80s/90s?  I thought there were some in the old bygone era section but I can't see any there (unless i'm searching wrong)

I'm sure there were some Teen Travelticket leaflets in there.

(17 Jul 2019, 6:27 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]

I'm sure there were some Teen Travelticket leaflets in there.

Didn't see those either but it's the ones with the services in that I'm after

Looks like Sunderland has given up allocating gas buses to the late 23 boards. But this week the 8 has been allocated the 63 plate E200s for some reason.

(18 Jul 2019, 10:45 am)Dans_bus_photos wrote [ -> ]

Looks like Sunderland has given up allocating gas buses to the late 23 boards. But this week the 8 has been allocated the 63 plate E200s for some reason.

Yes I noticed that on Saturday when I had 36975 on the 8 and seen a SUNderlandrland bus on there too on saturday

(18 Jul 2019, 7:13 pm)JM03 wrote [ -> ]A X34 branded E400 is going to Newcastle NIS, is it going to walkerhate or slatyford, it’s not a X24 bc that’s passed me

I assume this will be operating the last or second last X34 from Newcastle?

(18 Jul 2019, 7:22 pm)AIG20 wrote [ -> ]

I assume this will be operating the last or second last X34 from Newcastle?

lat is around 7PM, about a hour earlier, it wasting over the Tyne Bridge towards NCL NIS

(18 Jul 2019, 7:13 pm)JM03 wrote [ -> ]A X34 branded E400 is going to Newcastle NIS, is it going to walkerhate or slatyford, it’s not a X24 bc that’s passed me

Probably running light to operate X34 ex Pilgrim St, depending what time it was

(16 Jul 2019, 12:14 pm)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]Original service 17 was withdrawn between Sunderland and Seaburn camp, service 17 was soon back on the road running from Sunderland-Chester road-kayle road-hylton road-Sunderland, then the 17 was put on from Sunderland to Doxford Park running right in front of George Bell bus service 125 and the 17 was soon renumbered as service 25, George bell travel 125 didn’t last long.

Service 26 went to the forge.

There should be some timetables in the bygone era on the site .


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In the Busways era, there was supposed to be a new service 8 but last I heard it got shelved, if I remember correctly but could be wrong that it was going to be a minibus operation from Sunderland to Carley Hill via Southwick


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I remember the George Bell 125 and 17, they ran quite a peculiar route via Gilley Law and Silksworth. Don't think it even lasted a year before it was re-routed and renumbered 25.

Also didn't Favourite run an 8 with the 9 and 9A?

(19 Jul 2019, 4:58 pm)GrahamD83 wrote [ -> ]

I remember the George Bell 125 and 17, they ran quite a peculiar route via Gilley Law and Silksworth. Don't think it even lasted a year before it was re-routed and renumbered 25.

Also didn't Favourite run an 8 with the 9 and 9A?

(19 Jul 2019, 5:45 pm)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]Yea, George Bell went via plains farm while the Busways went via Springwell and thornley close, that’s how the 5 started off from doxford park to Boldon, I wonder if George Bell never put on service 125 then the 5 would of ever existed, yea when jolly bus came off, Busways put the 8/9/9a on, I think Busways only bought the bus service routes and not the buses or depot, as George Bell used the old jolly depot and also Welco used the depot aswell with bus service W20 and W21 between South Hylton and Sunderland


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Thanks.

Still on the subject of old Sunderland Busways routes, (I know its the latest news thread and is probably off topic) I had always assumed they switched from three digits (1xx) to single/double digits at deregulation (except the 104 with was an extension of the 4), however there are images of buses running on route 107 to Downhill and 110 to Pennywell. Did these routes also operate alongside their respective 7 and 10 routes?

I remember the 7 running CBS - Witherwack via Newcastle Road, and the 10 presumably running the same route it does today.

Service 107

Service 110

(20 Jul 2019, 6:52 pm)GrahamD83 wrote [ -> ]

Thanks.

Still on the subject of old Sunderland Busways routes, (I know its the latest news thread and is probably off topic) I had always assumed they switched from three digits (1xx) to single/double digits at deregulation (except the 104 with was an extension of the 4), however there are images of buses running on route 107 to Downhill and 110 to Pennywell. Did these routes also operate alongside their respective 7 and 10 routes?

I remember the 7 running CBS - Witherwack via Newcastle Road, and the 10 presumably running the same route it does today.

107: https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/29007094157/in/album-72157693157775585/

110: https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/29007094237/in/album-72157693157775585/

With the exception of the 100, 106 and 139/140 which were all secured services which were there from the start, the other 100 prefixed routes were introduced later in response to competition from TWOC.

(20 Jul 2019, 6:54 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote [ -> ]

With the exception of the 100, 106 and 139/140 which were all secured services which were there from the start, the other 100 prefixed routes were introduced later in response to competition from TWOC.

(20 Jul 2019, 7:12 pm)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]Yep, 104/107/110/115 were registered in front of Tyne and Wear omnibus Company 104/107/110/115

104 Doxford Park to Downhill
107 Witherwack to Grangetown
110 Grangetown to Pennywell
115 Sunderland to Hastings Hill.

I wonder how many people know the story why T.M.S started up T.W.O.C to compete against Busways in Tyne and Wear.


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Did Busways operate a 107 before the TWOC takeover?  I thought that was one they inherited when they took TWOC over in 1989 like the 116?

(20 Jul 2019, 7:57 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote [ -> ]

Did Busways operate a 107 before the TWOC takeover?  I thought that was one they inherited when they took TWOC over in 1989 like the 116?

(20 Jul 2019, 9:00 pm)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]Yes , 107 operated in front of TWOC 107 same as 104/110/115, after the takeover of TWOC routes all Busways mini Busways routes got turned into Tyne and Wear Omnibus Company name for a period of time


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Except for in South Shields. We kept our mini buses in standard livery and obtained the old TWOC LHs to operate the X2 service which was inherited but in a reduced route of just Sunderland to South Shields as opposed to TWOCS X2 of Thorney Close - Sunderland - South Shields - Biddick Hall

The destination displays for the E1 & E6 have been updated for this years Air Show. They now show "Seaburn for the Air Show" instead of "Seaburn Morrisons" or "Seaburn Camp" which were used in previous years.

(26 Jul 2019, 6:33 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]New bus station map is on the NEXUS site for the new Shields Bus station:

Services departing from each stand below:

Stand A: 10, 516, 960
Stand B: 8
Stand C: 7
Stand D: E1, E2, E6
Stand E: 30
Stand F: 20
Stand G: 1, 4
Stand H: 2, 3
Stand J: 5, 50/50A, TB503
Stand K: 17
Stand L: 18
Stand M: 26
Stand N: 27
Stand P: 12, X20

I wonder if there is enough room for two buses (or one to wait behind another). What could happen if for example, an E6 turns up late and the E1 turns up on time? As the driver would not be able to see if the stand is in use until they have entered the bus station?

(27 Jul 2019, 10:14 am)AIG20 wrote [ -> ]

The destination displays for the E1 & E6 have been updated for this years Air Show. They now show "Seaburn for the Air Show" instead of "Seaburn Morrisons" or "Seaburn Camp" which were used in previous years.

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I wonder if there is enough room for two buses (or one to wait behind another). What could happen if for example, an E6 turns up late and the E1 turns up on time? As the driver would not be able to see if the stand is in use until they have entered the bus station?

Stand E is supposedly for route 30, which only runs hourly. Most of the time that stand will be empty, meaning that E's will probably squat on it if D is occupied.