Just wondering if they will ever get some double-deckers to Stockton especially for the 35 as it's ram packed with school kids and you can hardly move, would also be good if they add some E400's on the 36 as well as that can get packed. I also heard that we are getting hydrogen buses to Stockton any idea if this is true and when will they be coming?
I haven't seen a packed single decker on Teesside in a while, certainly not going to bring deckers for a couple school runs that have always been busy. Plus there is no investment to allow for deckers to be spare.
Hydro bus currently parked up in depot. Looks more like a midi bus than a single decker so I could potentially see Hartlepool receiving some if the trial is successful.
(08 Feb 2022, 11:43 pm)Benny wrote [ -> ]I haven't seen a packed single decker on Teesside in a while, certainly not going to bring deckers for a couple school runs that have always been busy. Plus there is no investment to allow for deckers to be spare.
Hydro bus currently parked up in depot. Looks more like a midi bus than a single decker so I could potentially see Hartlepool receiving some if the trial is successful.
In about 15 years time when they're knackered.
If indeed Newcastle take the E200MMC , Stockton will be boxing clever with capital expenditure replacements in due course.
(09 Feb 2022, 6:28 pm)54APhotography wrote [ -> ]If indeed Newcastle take the E200MMC , Stockton will be boxing clever with capital expenditure replacements in due course.
I can't see the MMC's moving unless Houchen decides to actually by some Hydro buses (I'm doubting since all he cares about is the airport)
The e200 MMCs are being swapped with alx300s from Newcastle due to the impending CAZ
(10 Feb 2022, 2:24 am)Youngymmv wrote [ -> ]The e200 MMCs are being swapped with alx300s from Newcastle due to the impending CAZ
our mmcs aren't going anywhere Newcastle's alxs are being swapped with our Enviro 300s 27157-27181
(11 Feb 2022, 6:00 pm)Dyllan7817 wrote [ -> ]our mmcs aren't going anywhere Newcastle's alxs are being swapped with our Enviro 300s 27157-27181
I did hear off a few people that it was a swap for the Alexander 300 where been swapped with the Enviro 200 MMC. Of course plans might be getting changed all the time and a lot could depend yet on where Stagecoach are willing to buy new buses for ( if indeed they do buy many new buses at all). Stockton are not actually to bad whereas Hartlepool the buses are literally falling to bits so have to give credit for the engineering team actually getting enough of them on the road. So I could see Stockton getting a few of the older Enviro 400 along with the Alexander 300 with Hartlepool getting the remaining darts and a few of the better Enviro 200s. Stockton might possibly if they get any more investment move the Enviro 300 to Hartlepool for the service 1
(11 Feb 2022, 6:00 pm)Dyllan7817 wrote [ -> ]our mmcs aren't going anywhere Newcastle's alxs are being swapped with our Enviro 300s 27157-27181
So more terrible buses for Newcastle
(12 Feb 2022, 6:40 pm)Train8261 wrote [ -> ]So more terrible buses for Newcastle
You have nothing to complain about. A load of new buses even some of the older ones look decent. Meanwhile Hartlepool have buses that are literally falling to bits and the engineers are working hard to actually keep them on the road.
(12 Feb 2022, 9:22 pm)col87 wrote [ -> ]You have nothing to complain about. A load of new buses even some of the older ones look decent. Meanwhile Hartlepool have buses that are literally falling to bits and the engineers are working hard to actually keep them on the road.
I was once on one of Hartlepools e200 locals and the livery was awful it was coming off bus stop buttons dont work and was really thin as im used to my e300s and the seats were a mess and was really loud
(11 Feb 2022, 6:00 pm)Dyllan7817 wrote [ -> ]our mmcs aren't going anywhere Newcastle's alxs are being swapped with our Enviro 300s 27157-27181
So stockton might get alxs or are they getting scrapped?
(16 Feb 2022, 6:02 pm)Stageoachtees wrote [ -> ]I was once on one of Hartlepools e200 locals and the livery was awful it was coming off bus stop buttons dont work and was really thin as im used to my e300s and the seats were a mess and was really loud
So stockton might get alxs or are they getting scrapped?
Stockton are still getting Newcastles ALXs but it seems like one of the 54 platers are wanting to survive which is 22062 and has been on the 13/13A yesterday
(09 Feb 2022, 1:03 pm)tcts24 wrote [ -> ]In about 15 years time when they're knackered.
Yeah when our shitboxes eventually get withdrawn. I heard rumors that the 39s are getting withdrawn late this year and we are meant to get 24s and 22s.
(10 Feb 2022, 2:24 am)Youngymmv wrote [ -> ]The e200 MMCs are being swapped with alx300s from Newcastle due to the impending CAZ
They can’t, Ben Houchen is standing in the way
(15 Apr 2023, 7:33 pm)Mr Alx300 22062 NK54 BFF wrote [ -> ]They can’t, Ben Houchen is standing in the way
What can he do?
(15 Apr 2023, 7:38 pm)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]What can he do?
The Tees Valley Combined Authority have an agreement with both Stagecoach and Arriva that 20% of their combined PVR within the Tees Valley is operated by vehicles which meet the Euro6 emission standard - hence the upgrading and cascading of the E300s rather than the E200MMCs. (Partly off topic but Arriva's share of that agreement is covered by the MAX Pulsars converted for use on the X12).
(15 Apr 2023, 9:58 am)AlexRPlays wrote [ -> ]Yeah when our shitboxes eventually get withdrawn. I heard rumors that the 39s are getting withdrawn late this year and we are meant to get 24s and 22s.
Given Hartlepool were originally due to get 27805/9/12 and so far 805/12 have entered service at Stockton (adding weight to the long-mentioned issue with full size vehicles and Hartlepool's maintance shed), along with mention that 39663/8 - both of which were due for withdrawal last month when their MOT expired - have been re-tested, suggests the likelihood of that rumour being true is about as likely as a pig flying.
More likely to see some E200s cascaded in from somewhere to replace the remaining MANs at Hartlepool.
Its about time they should be some big investment in Hartlepool depot.
(15 Apr 2023, 7:48 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]The Tees Valley Combined Authority have an agreement with both Stagecoach and Arriva that 20% of their combined PVR within the Tees Valley is operated by vehicles which meet the Euro6 emission standard - hence the upgrading and cascading of the E300s rather than the E200MMCs. (Partly off topic but Arriva's share of that agreement is covered by the MAX Pulsars converted for use on the X12).
That is absolutely not true and I know this from the day job I actually do, which involves both operators and TVCA.
(15 Apr 2023, 9:58 am)AlexRPlays wrote [ -> ]Yeah when our shitboxes eventually get withdrawn. I heard rumors that the 39s are getting withdrawn late this year and we are meant to get 24s and 22s.
39663 and 39668 are surviving for another year at least but looks like 39667 and 39670 have been withdrawn both parked up in depot with 667 front facing onto Brenda Road. Of course it means nothing as both are still Intact so could simply be they just not been used today but where they currently parked does seem to be where the withdrawn buses are put. I think Hartlepool at the very least does need 3 more permanent buses bringing in from somewhere.
(17 Apr 2023, 11:52 am)col87 wrote [ -> ]39663 and 39668 are surviving for another year at least but looks like 39667 and 39670 have been withdrawn both parked up in depot with 667 front facing onto Brenda Road. Of course it means nothing as both are still Intact so could simply be they just not been used today but where they currently parked does seem to be where the withdrawn buses are put. I think Hartlepool at the very least does need 3 more permanent buses bringing in from somewhere.
Could do with sending 27175/6/7/8 up to replace them knackered 39s?
(17 Apr 2023, 4:29 pm)Mr Alx300 22062 NK54 BFF wrote [ -> ]Could do with sending 27175/6/7/8 up to replace them knackered 39s?
Those MANs are no more knackered than the ADLs. One of the many reasons I left was that they keep replacing the MAN's with buses that are actually worse to work with.
(17 Apr 2023, 4:53 pm)tcts24 wrote [ -> ]Those MANs are no more knackered than the ADLs. One of the many reasons I left was that they keep replacing the MAN's with buses that are actually worse to work with.
I not a fan of the man’s but would actually agree some of the enviro 200 are not to good. They does seem to have been a change of plan at the looks of it since September because I doubt 39661/2/4/5/6 would have been withdrawn otherwise unless they reallY knackered because only 39661 seemed to be knackered out of them and 39666 was still quite decent so if 39663 and 39668 have been giving another year then they must be a problem getting replacements. Saying that I would be surprised if 39667 does go back into service and having looked properly earlier both 39665 and 39662 are both still there while the others have gone so must be a reason why they have been left.
What is the length of 36092 - NK59 BNV
(17 Apr 2023, 6:18 pm)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]What is the length of 36092 - NK59 BNV
10.8 meters. All of Hartlepools buses are 10.8 meters except the MANs which are 11.5m.
It looks so much smaller in person
(17 Apr 2023, 4:29 pm)Mr Alx300 22062 NK54 BFF wrote [ -> ]Could do with sending 27175/6/7/8 up to replace them knackered 39s?
Yeah we dont need em horrible e300s
(17 Apr 2023, 4:29 pm)Mr Alx300 22062 NK54 BFF wrote [ -> ]Could do with sending 27175/6/7/8 up to replace them knackered 39s?
And yet there’s a reason why 27805/12 have entered service at Stockton to replace the remaining 220xx MANs rather than Hartlepool to replace the 39xxx……..
(18 Apr 2023, 3:35 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]And yet there’s a reason why 27805/12 have entered service at Stockton to replace the remaining 220xx MANs rather than Hartlepool to replace the 39xxx……..
Am sad to see the Alexander man 220xxs go but since some are 19 - 20 years old and been trundling around an area covering Hartlepool to Hemlington on any giving day it’s understandable why they the priority. While the Manviros I think the worse have been took out of service and 39663 and 39668 and probably one of 39658 or 39660 could probably still do a few more years in service yet as other than the 1 they only covering a small area but I do expect something most like more cascades will eventually come in to replace them within the next 2 years as 39605 really only has a year or 2 left in service as well.
(18 Apr 2023, 3:30 pm)Lollist wrote [ -> ]Yeah we dont need em horrible e300s
What would you suggest Stagecoach bring in to Hartlepool then but the Manviro 200 are going to have to go at at some point and the ADL enviro 200 have hardly been successful so what do you suggest ?
(18 Apr 2023, 8:30 pm)col87 wrote [ -> ]Am sad to see the Alexander man 220xxs go but since some are 19 - 20 years old and been trundling around an area covering Hartlepool to Hemlington on any giving day it’s understandable why they the priority. While the Manviros I think the worse have been took out of service and 39663 and 39668 and probably one of 39658 or 39660 could probably still do a few more years in service yet as other than the 1 they only covering a small area but I do expect something most like more cascades will eventually come in to replace them within the next 2 years as 39605 really only has a year or 2 left in service as well.
What would you suggest Stagecoach bring in to Hartlepool then but the Manviro 200 are going to have to go at at some point and the ADL enviro 200 have hardly been successful so what do you suggest ?
Well hartlepool should just take the rest of our adl e300s and then get all these spare man viros or whatever Cumbria and Lancashire have that they dont need as they have slacked off loads of MAN300s
Or they could invest in hartlepool for once ?
Saw a post somewhere in the last few days about a Silver Sprinter arriving at Stockton.
Anyway, it's in use on Teesflex. Seen it around East Cleveland today.